04:13 <awygle> defcon weekend murdered the channel :(

04:47 <JSharp> awygle: happens...

04:48 <awygle> yeah it's not surprising lol. i just found it funny when i went to bed, and then to work, and then there still wasn't anything new

04:51 <JSharp> well, here's a general question, if you're bored. Are there any tooling packages for making "spare" FPGA devboards in one's possession available remotely to other openfpga hackers for testing (etc)?

04:53 <JSharp> it'd depend on what they want to do -- but if they just want to flash some bitstream files and see if they brick the thing (obviously, would need some control facility to un-brick it); it might be much less annoying to test RE'd bitfile formats on exotic chips

04:54 <JSharp> admittedly I haven't googled the questionspace, hence the 'lazy'web

04:55 <awygle> interesting thought

04:55 <awygle> there are some things like that for MCUs

04:56 <awygle> mostly in the Linux space (which i guess makes them MPUs?) but some smaller

04:56 <awygle> Lava from Linaro is the main s/w suite i'm aware of

04:57 <awygle> probably would need some hacking to support FPGAs usefully tho

05:01 <davidc___> "ssh" ?

05:02 <davidc___> in all seriousness, SSH would be plenty

05:03 <awygle> something something security maybe?

05:04 <davidc___> but the main risk is a bitstream that damages the FPGA due to internal conflicts, or configuring something incorrectly for I/O

05:04 <davidc___> awygle: heh, I'd trust the linux user privs model far more than any kind of interaction with vendor tooling

05:05 <awygle> yeahhhhh on second thought "I set my CoolRunner on fire by shorting all the routing muxes" is a lot less funny when it's on somebody's desk and they're on vacation and don't get home for three days

05:05 <davidc___> awygle: or its a 5k artix :P

05:06 <awygle> davidc___: i wouldn't trust either honestly :P too many exploits and container escapes and blah blah blah

05:06 <awygle> but i'm coming from a place of pretty profound ignorance so *shrug*

05:07 <awygle> if i knew anything about security i'd probably be at defcon!

05:07 <davidc___> awygle: yea... eh. its more that someone has actually tried to harden the linux kernel once upon a time

05:07 <davidc___> whereas the vendor tools? "Naaah. Run it as root. makes it easier."

05:08 <awygle> i started a new job this week. we run visual studio as root to do development. kmn.

20:52 <cyrozap> JSharp: I believe OpenWrt/LEDE has some infra for doing router firmware CI testing on live hardware.

20:54 <cyrozap> JSharp: Here it is: https://github.com/qca/boardfarm

20:55 <nurelin> the lava project might fit too

22:50 <lain> lava lamp