<balrog> what's attendance like?
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<digshadow> balrog: maybe 20, we're just in the small back room of this place
<balrog> for an RE-focused meeting that's a lot of people
<digshadow> but it sometimes goes more like 30
<digshadow> which gets pretty cramped
<balrog> we get 20 on a good day. more commonly 10. but that's general infosec
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<awygle> rqou, azonenberg: i put a few more relevant reverse engineering papers on the wiki page i made (https://github.com/azonenberg/openfpga/wiki/RE-Literature-Survey). started to feel like things were getting samey (based on my limited understanding) - if there's anything you'd like me to try to find some more stuff on let me know
<awygle> also, i didn't find anything with IL-based flows, so i concentrated primarily on automated methods (lots of manual stuff out there)
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<rqou> woo, survived MEng boot camp round 1
<rqou> now i get to immediately jump into EE206 intro to robotics (poke awygle :P )
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<eduardo__> rqou: Is there any practical work to do in EE206 ?
<eduardo__> or is it all theory?
<rqou> afaik it's actually pretty strong on practical work
<eduardo__> Just in case it would fit into your agenda. We did build a dual PMOD board for Sensing and driving a BLDC with an icoBoard or any other dual PMOD board. Clifford did not yet have the time to write a driver for it.
<eduardo__> As I went into Motion controll, it seems to be as most integrated chips are quite dumb (ramp up, ramp down).
<eduardo__> There is a very good presentation done this year at the Altera/Intel Conference about the complexity of motion controll.
<eduardo__> if you are interested I would look it up for you.
<eduardo__> I looked it up: "Industrial IoT motor control trajectory optimization"
<eduardo__> There is no direct link . sorry.
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<eduardo__> What he said in the video is that EE are 60 year out of date concering Motion controll compared to Mechanical engineers.
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<eduardo__> motion controll is damm hard. especially if you want to drive the motors slow.
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<rqou> yeah, i'm pretty familiar with the difficulty of motion control
<rqou> i've tried to build a brushed DC motor controller board before and learned quite a bit about what not to do
<rqou> idk if i'll need this for this specific class, but i'll definitely need some kind of "advanced" (whatever that means) motor controller for the capstone project
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<whitequark> brushed?
<whitequark> isn't that just basically "do some pwm"
<rqou> yes
<rqou> there's still lessons to learn and things to mess up :P
<whitequark> do a bldc controller
<whitequark> super fun
<rqou> i intend to at some point
<whitequark> i did a simple shitty one using this gp4 chip
<whitequark> it's really entertaining
<whitequark> sec
<rqou> i'm probably going to use an stm32
<rqou> possibly + an fpga
<whitequark> ah no i havent documented that
<rqou> people have built simple shitty BLDC controllers with PICs and stuff
<rqou> so gp4 is believable
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<pie_> this is why its hard to clean my room https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Stuff_1c2cc9_6367368.jpg (not actually my room)
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<awygle_m> rqou: ee206 is interesting, I audited it for a while. Iirc expect a lot of inverse kinematics. I like the prof though she's cool
<rqou> i've been told by multiple people that the lecture is kinda crappy
<rqou> and that the point of the class is the lab
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<awygle_m> Sounds reasonable for robotics
<rqou> lol
<awygle_m> How was boot camp?
<rqou> i can haz MBA? :P
<rqou> but more seriously, i did find it quite enlightening
<awygle_m> What did you learn besides how to bribe people?
<rqou> lol
<rqou> it's hard for me to immediately summarize, but it's basically "how to get other people to do what you want"
<rqou> it's mostly a way of thinking rather than some facts to learn
<awygle_m> Ah, that does sound useful
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<rqou> whee, i think i broke the EECS instructional account system
<rqou> time to poke helldesk
<balrog> nice :D
<rqou> seems to be a combination of a) i re-enrolled as a grad student and b) i used a "legacy" feature that everyone forgot existed
<balrog> LOL
<balrog> edge cases
<rqou> this system is full of edge cases
<rqou> since it's so old and evolved out of "traditional" practice of unix user accounts on a shared mainframe/server
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<pie__> :'D
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