<viric> has anyone measured the power consumption of the ben?
<wolfspraul> maybe in the early days ;-)
<viric> any report around? :)
<wolfspraul> need to google, super late here though
<wolfspraul> I can barely finish my last mails to clean out my Inbox :-)
<viric> ok ok
<viric> I'll reask another day :)
<viric> I'd like some kind of low power computer...
<viric> but with comfortable keyboard/screen for usual work
<viric> kristianpaul: thank you!
<kristianpaul> like n900 or still too big?
<kristianpaul> s/big/small
<viric> notebook-size
<viric> (as for keyboard/screen)
<kristianpaul> larsc: nice !
<kristianpaul> larsc: how you get those?
<larsc> that's from the old days
<kristianpaul> pastebin from 2009?
<larsc> kristianpaul: build a special usb cable
<kristianpaul> i can imagine :)
<viric> larsc: ah great. that's what I wanted. That can be made to fit a wiki page somewhere.
<viric> Is 'the old days' relevant to the measures?
<viric> I mean... should the measures be different now?
<larsc> i hope not
<viric> ok
<kristianpaul> nanonote is same no?
<viric> well, maybe the kernel does something wrong ;)
<kristianpaul> display off is what gmenu2x does after inactivity timeout?
<larsc> yes
<viric> 200mA * 3.6V = 720mW?
<viric> so 1 W should be more than enough
<kristianpaul> be carefull ;)
<larsc> * 5V
<larsc> i think
<viric> ah usb measures
<viric> ok
<viric> larsc: how stable needs the nanonote the 5V there?
<larsc> i don't know
<viric> ok
<viric> A notebook-size computer that could work on 1 or 2 W would be great ;)
<viric> even if less powerful than the nanonote
<viric> (I mean *with screen and kbd*)
<viric> mmm Samsung NC215S...
<viric> I think that the low power boards of mobile phones and alike should be used in simply *bigger keyboards and screens*
<kristianpaul> i saw before, you remenber that  spanish company was about to make solar powered laptops? iunika?
<viric> hm may be
<viric> (btw, what do you think of the 'geeksphone'?)
<viric> I remember iunika yes
<kristianpaul> (geekphone) just the name?
<viric> :) the phone
<viric> maybe iunika went bankrupt?
<kristianpaul> certainkly yes
<kristianpaul> Corporacion Empressarial iUnika, S.L. is no longer a licensee of MIPS Technologies, Inc.
<kristianpaul> :)
<kristianpaul> my geekphone is a motorola c123, that i can run osmocom on it.. :)
<viric> kristianpaul: geeksphone.com
<viric> osmocom?
<kristianpaul> viric: http://bb.osmocom.org
<viric> oh great great
<viric> I remember it from a 27c3 talk
<viric> ccc
<viric> kristianpaul: do you use it as your normal phone?
<kristianpaul> viric: yes
<kristianpaul> i just load osmocom when want to learn a bit about the project :)
<kristianpaul> there is not OS or something yet
<kristianpaul> just load the app and play from the computer
<viric> ah ok
<kristianpaul> but still nice have a phone you can run free sotware baseband on it :)
<viric> clear
<kristianpaul> viric: i never bought a openmoko too expesive, this geekphone looks same
<viric> well, twice the nanonote
<kristianpaul> with that money i cna buy a netbook, wich will be more usefull for sure
<kristianpaul> true
<viric> I use the phone mostly for mp3 playing as it has a loud speaker :)
<kristianpaul> but do they give me schematics too?
<viric> kristianpaul: I don't think so :)
<kristianpaul> well if you have the money be happy :)
<kristianpaul> may be android based phone will cost as a nanonote next year
<kristianpaul> then i'll consider :)
<viric> I can't say I'd like to run Android
<viric> if I had a shell, and a SDL program in the first virtual console that managed calls... that would be enough ;)
<kristianpaul> you can try buy a SciphoneDream G2
<kristianpaul> in already run OE i think
<kristianpaul> s/int/it
<viric> without much hacks?
<viric> why did you adivse it? for OE mostly?
<viric> (It looks like a great channel to ask for hw :)
<viric> (specially about freedom)
<kristianpaul> :)
<kristianpaul> not OE :)
<kristianpaul> It's possible to run any Linux distribution without flashing Sciphone's original firmware.
<kristianpaul> To do this, you need to prepare microSD card and use osmocon loader to load u-Boot image to RAM.
<kristianpaul> not bad? viric ?
<viric> ah ok
<viric> not bad
<viric> I'd like to be able to make and receive calls though :)
<kristianpaul> he
<kristianpaul> brb
<viric> :)
<kristianpaul> viric: so what phone you're going to buy?
<wpwrak> viric: (5 V stability) a bit of variation should be okay. it gets regulated down to 3.3 V anyway. and the path is the same as for the battery
<vladislavkorotne> hello everyone
<vladislavkorotne> anyone here can delete a file from my sftp directory?
<vladislavkorotne> i need to delete it urgently and i lost my publickey
<wpwrak> my_dead_wife_001.jpg ? :)
<vladislavkorotne> no lol
<vladislavkorotne> wpwrak: can you?
<wpwrak> (and no, i don't know how you'd do this. i guess you'd have to contact the operator of that machine)
<wpwrak> also, i suppose it's the private key you lost, not the public one
<vladislavkorotne> yes
<wpwrak> maybe they have a means for you to "log in" on some web frontend and then upload a new pubkey ? but all this really depends on how the service is structured
<vladislavkorotne> no, they dont
<wpwrak> how did you provide your pubkey to them when the sftp account was created ?
<vladislavkorotne> dont remember. over email i think
<wpwrak> so i guess it's time to mail them again .. :)
<wpwrak> or just ask them to delete the offending file immediately, if you dare to mention it
<wpwrak> oh, on qi-hw !
<vladislavkorotne> yes
<wpwrak> gone :)
<vladislavkorotne> Thanks!!!
<wpwrak> i have no idea how wolfgang authenticates people. so you'll have to wait for him to update your public key on downloads.qi-hardware.com
<wpwrak> vladislavkorotne: i can tell you that, in case you may have a copy somewhere, the old key ended in  ...2y5sN/ vladkorotnev@...
<vladislavkorotne> dont have it& i've done a complete OS reinstall with HDD securely wiped twice
<wpwrak> *grin* at least you're thorough
<vladislavkorotne> :)
<vladislavkorotne> okay now this asshole left my house
<vladislavkorotne> he decided to make the installscript that i based my installer on closedsource, but i donno why didnt he just ask& really hate having to do stuff like that with a brick in the hand of the guy standing right there, next to you :/
<vladislavkorotne> ah, nvm, it's over
<wpwrak> huh ? friendly neighbours in your local hacker community ?
<vladislavkorotne> sorta
<vladislavkorotne> dev community
<wpwrak> maybe i was a bit too quick with the deletion then ?
<vladislavkorotne> at least mostly
<vladislavkorotne> no, it anyway had a bug...
<vladislavkorotne> that actually wiped the SD card
<wpwrak> i hope you still have the sources then
<wpwrak> oh, nice feature :)
<vladislavkorotne> and relocated the message store to it
<vladislavkorotne> but& without asking
<vladislavkorotne> i don't know anyway, how'd he make a bash script closed-source :p
<vladislavkorotne> brb reconnect
<wpwrak> he can at least make the license say so. "you're forbidden to read the source"
<vladislavkorotne> i see, but why not just ask to silently kill the project instead of that?
<wpwrak> maybe took the drugs and the vodka in the wrong order ?
<vladislavkorotne> lol maybe, i'm in russia
<vladislavkorotne> though i know an anti-opensource guy who helped me make a closed project for iPhone
<vladislavkorotne> i could phone him at 5 AM and he was already drunk
<vladislavkorotne> but able to code
<wpwrak> i suppose being able to code while drunk is a useful ability, particularly for those closed-source guys :)
<vladislavkorotne> lol
<vladislavkorotne> he spends like $50 on alcohol weekly
<vladislavkorotne> he's a photographer, but used to be a programmer
<wpwrak> USD 50 on alcohol doesn't sound like a lot. but i guess it depends on what and where you buy. one quite moderate night of clubbing would leave a deeper hole in my pocket. but i guess it would be quite a sizeable quantity of the cheapest booze i could find
<vladislavkorotne> he buys cheapest beer that tastes ok :p
<vladislavkorotne> not sure what he means by this lol
<wpwrak> hmm, lets's see .. ARS 4.84 per liter of cheap beer here
<vladislavkorotne> ARS == ?
<wpwrak> searching ...
<wpwrak> 1:4.24, so about USD 1.14
<vladislavkorotne> hmmm& dont think he drinks 50 liters a week
<wpwrak> 50 liters of beer would be ... well, still manageable. maybe a liver transplant every now and then.
<vladislavkorotne> indeed
<wpwrak> let's see how we'd do with wine. may be cheaper. ARS 18.25 /liter for cabernet
<vladislavkorotne> he doesnt drink wine
<vladislavkorotne> only, occasionaly, champagne
<wpwrak> ARE 15.99/l for borgonia, no idea what that one is :)
<wpwrak> ah, and the winner: ARS 13.72/l for "vino rumbos tinto". no idea what brew that is either ;-)
<vladislavkorotne> idk, i dont drink :p
<wpwrak> but i think that online shop doesn't have the bottom feeders anyway
<wpwrak> let's check the vodka ...
<wpwrak> ah yes, bolsakaya, ARS 19.69 / l. much more efficient than beer :)
<vladislavkorotne> :p
<wpwrak> gin, "bols dry", 18.69 /l. wow, that's cheap
<vladislavkorotne> hmm idk if its cheap or not :p
<wpwrak> about USD 4.4 per liter. well, at least compared to beer. price per gram of alcohol, of course
<wpwrak> but this shop doesn't have the rock-bottom stuff. they don't even have an actually pretty decent but inexpensive brandy. lemme try another one.
<vladislavkorotne> gotta go. 'night everyone
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<viric> kristianpaul: as long as I can keep up resoldering the bad paths on my phone, I won't change :)
<viric> kristianpaul: we need a bit of ecolog
<viric> y
<viric> have you watched "Blood in the mobile"?
<viric> wpwrak: interesting intervention, oOq5xO
<wpwrak> (blood in the mobile) no. checking ...
<wpwrak> pheeew. that seems to be a very very long chain. so that's bad mines -> tin extraction -> purification/adaptation for electronics industry -> component makers / smt fabs -> mobile phone companies
<wpwrak> i think he' barking up the entirely wrong tree. ban imports from the congo if you want. but the mobile phone companies are too far away from this to have any control. sourcing doesn't work like this :)
<viric> I've not watched it still
<viric> If congo were the only colony used that way...
<viric> the whole western is based on colonies
<viric> all AC or DC generators are based on magnets?
<wpwrak> there's a lot of nasty stuff going on for sure
<wpwrak> but i don't think you can accomplish much by pestering mobile phone companies. at best, you can make them switch to distributors who are better liars.
<roh> there are types of generators/motors which use electo-magnets
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<qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: media: radio: RDA5807: Implemented VIDIOC_G_FREQUENCY ioctl. (jz-3.0) http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/ed96d8b
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