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<Pali> freemangordon: how hard is to RE rtcom-accounts-plugin-jabber package
<Pali> ?
<Pali> you already done rtcom-accounts-plugin-gtalk...
<Pali> and my patches for -gtalk are already in -devel
<Oksana> :-)
<Oksana> Thank you!
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<freemangordon> Pali: where is the package
<freemangordon> Pali: 18.6 k ARM binaray, I guess not that hard
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<Pali> freemangordon, yes last version of rtcom-accounts-plugin-jabber deb package
<Pali> and probably more parts of code could be same as rtcom-accounts-plugin-gtalk
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<DocScrutinizer05> x29a: we fixed some major issues, could you run another test please?
<DocScrutinizer05> particularly we fixed the "missing payment method -> no email" issue
<DocScrutinizer05> or we hope we did
<DocScrutinizer05> kudos to dos1 for it
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<DocScrutinizer05> we still have minor annoyances like http://neo900.org/stuff/werner/tmp/also-bought.png ("...also bought...")
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<DocScrutinizer05> there's also the misleading "tax incl."
<DocScrutinizer05> which should be "not taxed"
<wpwrak> ... after hunting down and killing countless others, "like me on fb", "our best-selling products", "mail to a friend", "show customers on a global map", "subscribe to [yet another] newsletter", ...
<DocScrutinizer05> prestashop, 'great'¡
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<wpwrak> yes, the tax thing may need some further consideration
<DocScrutinizer05> lemme try to kill it the usual way
<wpwrak> (usual) "a man in a dark parka has been seen near the tax office at the time of the molotov cocktail attack" ? :)
<DocScrutinizer05> "a hacker with nasty tooling has been seen near the prestashop 'translations' database"
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<wpwrak> now i'm scared :)
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<Oksana> What's wrong with show customers on a global map? ;-)
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<DocScrutinizer05> sorry?
<DocScrutinizer05> aaah
<jonsger> oh 990 EUR + x :(
<DocScrutinizer05> we don't want all that fancy stuff siply to reduce the workload to *fix* it
<DocScrutinizer05> I raher hope -x, but yes, that's what USD exchange gave us
<DocScrutinizer05> very sorry about it
<jonsger> so my graphic card has to live longer ^^
<DocScrutinizer05> :-) that's a fine spirit
<DocScrutinizer05> EUR/USD killed off a 30% of our calculations
<DocScrutinizer05> ~700*1.3
<infobot> 910
<DocScrutinizer05> add on top the 1GB chip and a few unforeseen expenses
<DocScrutinizer05> the >32GB eMMC etc
<jonsger> yes, but your luck is that you haven't a real competitor ^^
<DocScrutinizer05> there's still hope for better price, when we can sell significantly >1500 devices
<DocScrutinizer05> iirc my numbers (or rather Werner's, kudos for his evaluation work), we might go down a 150 or even 200 when we for example would sell 3000 units
<DocScrutinizer05> afk, brinner pending
<DocScrutinizer05> ~brinner
<DocScrutinizer05> duh
<DocScrutinizer05> ~brinner is breakfast at dinner time
<infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
<freemangordon> Pali: yes, about 50% of the code is same
<wpwrak> Oksana: i guess if we'd randomize and quantize the data, it may actually be "safe" :) not sure if it would actually be permissible under german law, though. they have some funny laws there, regarding "personal data"
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<DocScrutinizer05> @everybody: please don't send money now until we open shop. Only use shop to do payments! Thanks!
<DocScrutinizer05> rationale: we already have processed all payments up to this point and will send out vouchers for them. However any new payment _not_ done via shop will fall off this list since the list is already prepared
<DocScrutinizer05> and there won't be a payment record in shop database either
<DocScrutinizer05> so please just postpone payments another 1 or two days
<DocScrutinizer05> thanks :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> @Otto: don't worry, I'll sort out your payment manually :-D
<specing> Did you accept payments in eur only?
<DocScrutinizer05> I guess paypal accepts whatever you want
<DocScrutinizer05> for bank money transfer I dunno
<specing> but they are stored in eur?
<DocScrutinizer05> yes
<specing> well that is bad idea
<DocScrutinizer05> well
<DocScrutinizer05> now converting it to USD is probably an even worse idea
<specing> maybe
<DocScrutinizer05> but yes, we probably might consider what's the best moment for conversion of currencies
<DocScrutinizer05> for USD->EUR now is a better moment than 12 months ago
<DocScrutinizer05> so *if* we had _not_ converted payments from USD to EUR a 12 months ago, we now would see a better exchange rate for that, and we wouldn't suffer the worse EUR->USD exchange rate on sourcing
<DocScrutinizer05> well ... *IF*
<DocScrutinizer05> I'm no investment banker
<DocScrutinizer05> anyway, thanks for mentioning it. It's actually something we should consider if we can improve our procedures
<specing> you are buying components in usd, right?
<DocScrutinizer05> usually, yes
<specing> I'd advise just keeping the funds in usd, then
<DocScrutinizer05> yep, thanks
<DocScrutinizer05> we'll check how to implement that
<specing> I wonder if it would be possible to have an account in which you can store all currencies
<DocScrutinizer05> dunno
<DocScrutinizer05> never checked so far
<DocScrutinizer05> I +think* at least paypal allows such option
<specing> probably costs $$$ for no valid reason whatsoever
<specing> this would be better because you avoid conversions until you actually need to buy something
<DocScrutinizer05> then for several reasons we don't want to keep huge amounts of funds in PP account
<specing> its all 1% here, 3% there, 10% everywhere
<DocScrutinizer05> they could get blocked, killing our business
<specing> and then you are out of funds and have to close shop
<specing> true
<DocScrutinizer05> anyway, brinner still pending. afk. thanks again
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<wpwrak> what one usually does is open one account per currency. mixed-currency accounts would be weird.
<DocScrutinizer05> and messy to handle
<wpwrak> also, i would expect that most of out payments for components would be in EUR, right ? i.e., if GC sources most of the things, they'll probably bill us in EUR even if they themselves pay some things in USD
<DocScrutinizer05> yes, that's likely
<DocScrutinizer05> we should ask them
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<wpwrak> and if an operation has enough in- and outbound transfers in different currencies, which GC probably does, they may simply be their own exchange house and just move bookings between accounts, without actually exchanging money