stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.4.21 and js-ipfs 0.35 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of
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<musicmatze> olizilla (@olizilla:matrix.org): hmh okay thanks. So I have to play a little bit more with the dag command for my research
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<dbolser_> hihi
<dbolser_> If I shove a large file into ipfs and lets say a few people 'look at it' via their ipfs nodes, does each person have a full copy, or is it fragmented into shards on many nodes?
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<olizilla[m]> dbolser_ each has a full copy
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<dbolser_> olizilla[m]: and when downloading, is it 'torrented' from several nodes, or just one geographically closest?
<dbolser_> olizilla[m]: and if I understand correctly, ipfs alone won't 'distribute' the file to random other nodes? That's more into the filecoin relm?
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<ZerXes> dbolser_: correct
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<dbolser_> does a large file download like a torrent?
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<olizilla[m]> dbolser_ yes, it's similar. When you add a file to IPFS it gets split into blocks. When you get a file, you receive blocks from any connected peers that have them
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<dbolser_> olizilla[m]: OK, I see, but no one peer will just have some of the blocks (unless mid download)
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<placer14> Hi guise. :) We're trying to figure out how align the stars to get relays to be automatically used by NATed nodes. Here's my best understanding of how all this stuff is suppose to work, but our NATed nodes are not announcing any relay MA in their swarm announcement despite our best understanding of all this stuff.
<placer14> Here's my thinking:
<placer14> 1. NATed node comes online
<placer14> 2. Bootstraps are connected to and used to determine NAT status
<placer14> 3. Swarm Addresses are determined and announced (which should consider NAT status?)
<placer14> 4. Swarm Addrs have relay addrs included if NAT status is found to be NATed
<placer14> 5. My node asks the DHT for the announced IPs of the NATed node
<placer14> 6. My node sees public addrs and relay addrs...eventually it tries the relay and connects.
<placer14> 7. Profit.
<placer14> (oh, sorry for the spam, thought that would all send as one chunk)
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<placer14> We're currently using IPFS 0.4.19
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<placer14> okie dokie, I'm lurking if anyone has ideas. TIA
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<placer14> I found https://docs.libp2p.io/concepts/circuit-relay/#how-autorelay-works and am exploring the logs to understand how much of this process is (or is not) happening.
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<Kubuxu> placer14: for sure first update to 0.4.21
<Kubuxu> 0.4.19 has some bugs with relays.
<placer14> Can you describe the nature of these bugs? We're chasing 0.4.21 as fast as we can but we have some dep issues which prevent us from updating immediately.
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<placer14> (Or are they documented anywhere?)
<Kubuxu> Hmm, interesting.
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<placer14> (Aside: I'm trying to determine if it is unreasonable for me to expect to get autorelay working with 0.4.19 at all, or if these bugs can be worked around in the short term.)
<Kubuxu> I don't know right now.
<Kubuxu> You can try asking on #libp2p
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<placer14> Thanks for the response. I'll investigate there.
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<makeworld> Hello, I have a question about how IPFS finds peers
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<makeworld> I know there are bootstrap servers, but IPFS can find peers on the LAN using multicast without the Internet or bootstrap servers right?
<makeworld> If anyone who knows could tag me that'd be great, also a link to docs or something that mentions that
<vaelys> You can use the swarm command to add a peer manually
<vaelys> and skip the bootstrap servers
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<makeworld> Yes I know about that vaelys, I was just wondering about the automatic methods
<makeworld> Anybody know?
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<mattober[m]> are the ipfs.io gateways struggling right now?
<mattober[m]> i'm able to load content on many other gateways, and the ipfs.io gateways are typically pretty well connected
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<mattober[m]> I also can't seem to load the docs? https://docs.ipfs.io/reference/api/cli/
<mattober[m]> can anybody else verify that things are down for them as well?
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<senden9[m]> <mattober[m] "I also can't seem to load the do"> Works for me ofer the normal net & over ipfs
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<mattober[m]> hmm. Might be a regional thing. I'll look further into it
<senden9[m]> Seems so. Not reachabel from one of the 6 Netlify testpoints. See https://testmysite.io/5d0940a100d2cbd7a123d7d1/docs.ipfs.io
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<mattober[m]> Odd. I'm in the USA. I wonder why i'm not getting things to load.
<mattober[m]> (Wasn't)
<mattober[m]> things are loading now
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<shokunin[m]> I’m pretty proud of a slide I just made for my decentralization presentations this summer: The Internet doesn’t have to Zuck.
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