#ipfs on 2019-06-08 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2019-06-01 05:25 stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.4.21 and js-ipfs 0.35 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of

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06:51 <opal> running go-ipfs on laptop to give it a try

06:53 <opal> going to pin stuff from my image library in https://hydrusclient.github.io/hydrus/ since it has ipfs support, should be a good test for its capability

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06:53 <opal> i never really got a full chance to experiment with ipfs

06:53 <opal> always complained about resource usage on vpses

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06:54 <opal> but looking through github issues and docs, i see there are a few ways to cut down on dht noise and only serve pinned files

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06:55 <opal> hm im still having a hard time with bandwidth even after all that; im on a wifi connection so its probably my own fault

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07:18 <mm000[m]> so, you guys have a use case for ipfs?

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07:37 <shokunin[m]> yea we like to use it as an excuse to have meetups and eat pizza

07:37 <shokunin[m]> it's been great so far

07:37 <postables[m]> without getting creative, ipfs can be used for whatever you want to do with storage. but personally im using it for a couple of projects like supplychain management, office data storage

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07:39 <shokunin[m]> if you're asking seriously, I think that content hashing is super interesting for sharing content. for example if you write an article, you don't have tons of links for that article, just one

07:42 <mm000[m]> postables:matrix.org: i'd love to know more about that

07:42 <mm000[m]> _discord_417857235079790592:swedneck.xyz: yes, i'm dead serious

07:43 <mm000[m]> it's not a project that I have stayed abreast of recently

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07:44 <shokunin[m]> Well I'm working on a consumer app similar to Dropbox paper

07:45 <mm000[m]> good stuff

07:45 <shokunin[m]> but with IPFS, we can self host, store encrypted notes, get versioning for free, and we can make links permanent (so if thinkgs move around or go offline, the destination remains the same)

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08:05 <seba-> i don't think IPFS is that useful until less-popular files become approx. as fast as directly hosting them over http

08:05 <seba-> as for now that isn't possible without heavy tricks

08:05 <seba-> and hacks

08:06 <seba-> to be more specific, a hack is to know the peer id and then force resolve it and then ping the host (through ipfs)

08:06 <seba-> that forces quicker downloads

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10:34 <opal> heh the matrix bridge isnt too pretty, discord "usernames" show up as numeric IDs

10:35 <mm000[m]> why anybody uses discord is beyong me

10:35 <mm000[m]> beyond

10:36 <mm000[m]> why anybody uses discord is beyond me

10:36 <opal> to be fair, it hasnt had a big security breach to its name like matrix has

10:36 <opal> ...yet

10:37 <mm000[m]> what could they get from matrix? do people sign up using an email? phone number?

10:37 <opal> matrix main auth server got compromised too i believe

10:37 <mm000[m]> to what end?

10:38 <mm000[m]> what data does it store of any consequence?

10:38 <opal> im not going to repeat in here what the matrix blog has already covered in detail

10:38 <mm000[m]> summary? I've been away from this project for a long time

10:39 <opal> its been a while since i kept up with it and i dont want to get anything wrong

10:39 <opal> idr exactly what got compromised but people were urged to change passwords regardless

10:40 <mm000[m]> found the blog post

10:40 <mm000[m]> thanks

10:40 <opal> ye

10:40 <mm000[m]> https://matrix.org/blog/2019/04/11/we-have-discovered-and-addressed-a-security-breach-updated-2019-04-12

10:40 <opal> i'd like something like irc where you can just choose a name and participate immediately. ive thought about this; everyone's clients could assign a keypair and that could be used for identification

10:40 <mm000[m]> relatively recent

10:41 <opal> if you want to stay relatively anonymous, or use multiple identities, just create new keys. but most people wont even have to worry about that detail, it can just work

10:41 <opal> no passwords would have to be stored server side

10:41 <opal> i dont think email/phone verification is the answer to solving spam

10:41 <opal> especially in a federated network where anyone can spin up their own servers

10:41 <mm000[m]> nope

10:41 <mm000[m]> definitely not

10:41 <mm000[m]> ssl keys?

10:42 <opal> so yeah, definitely could be cleaner. discord can get away with it since it's a centralised service, only one point of entry

10:42 <opal> i was thinking something more lightweight than tls/x509

10:42 <opal> especially if you use these things for signing/encryption of messages as well

10:43 <mm000[m]> ah

10:43 <opal> i know a few older projects that depend on nacl/libsodium

10:43 <opal> and the ecc algorithms

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10:44 <opal> hm, on topic: i also installed go-ipfs on my vps again, and it's strange -- i pretty much copied the settings from my laptop but my vps is reporting higher bandwidth usage

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11:02 <opal> ok, seems like after a restart, bw usage lowered to a tolerable level on the vps, i'll monitor resource usage for a while

11:14 <opal> i think i asked something about this before, but are there any other features in go-ipfs that depends on http support except for the http gateway and the webui?

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12:02 <terorie> 700 GB of books, 174 GB ROMs pinned with gigabit QmNhR8AWeCUKW47g1XZJwjF1JB3q1v9WmwXYZCqaAqa61W

12:02 <terorie> show it some love guys

12:02 <terorie> TotalOut: 50.2 GB after 6 months. That's actually sad

12:08 <mm000[m]> what kind of love?

12:08 <terorie> up to you

12:09 <mm000[m]> that's not a good thing to say to a guy like me ;)

12:09 <terorie> should I increase ulimit?

12:10 <mm000[m]> sure,

12:10 <mm000[m]> although I'm having issues with the explorer

12:11 <terorie> oh, I thought you download so much that my node crashes

12:11 <mm000[m]> :)

12:12 <terorie> Don't use the gateway, run your own node tho

12:12 <terorie> otherwise it's painfully slow

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12:14 <terorie> you're not very effective

12:14 <terorie> RateIn: 3.7 kB/s

12:14 <terorie> RateOut: 21 kB/s

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12:29 <opal> is high cpu usage normal or can i expect it to settle down

12:34 <hexa-> pretty normal

12:35 <hexa-> well, not high, it sits at 5-10% most of the day

12:35 <hexa-> then spikes to 50-200%

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12:41 <opal> i guess it should also help to mention im running this on a vps where not all cpu features are exposed

12:41 <opal> flags : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx lm nopl cpuid tsc_known_freq pni cx16 hypervisor lahf_lm abm pti

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12:41 <opal> i know that has an impact on stuff e.g. crypto-heavy programs, not sure the case with ipfs

12:41 <opal> rn it's steadily using around a full core

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14:31 <CatManDooo[m]> Just found you guys, looks interesting. Looking for a little assistance in installing on ubuntu 18.04 as a snap

14:35 <jon1012> cipres, hey setting all the versions as == in your setup.py borks my whole env if everybody does that :(

14:35 <jon1012> could you please remove those == version requirements please?

14:35 <jon1012> it's unusable that way :(

14:37 <jon1012> (well I can, by just installing your package and then removing the version refs manually in a dockerfile for example, but it's extremely annoying lol)

14:38 <jon1012> on aioipfs

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