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<jamiedubs[m]2> any IPFS-related events happening at NYC Blockchain Week?
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<Seb2100[m]1> Hi, I am having trouble understanding exactly how IPFS uses the merkle dag? Does each node contain their own merkle dag or do nodes send a merkle dag when requested for a file or folder?
<olizilla[m]> files and directories are stored as blocks and links to other blocks
<olizilla[m]> links point to other blocks via the cid of the block
<olizilla[m]> a cid is derived from the content of the block... it's content-id (CID)
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<olizilla[m]> where a block links to another block via it's cid, thats the "dag"
<olizilla[m]> adding a large file to ipfs, it gets split up into many small blocks, each block gets its own CID
<olizilla[m]> to calculate the CID for the whole file, a parent node is created that links to all the CIDs of those blocks
<olizilla[m]> the CID for the parent block allows ipfs to go find all the blocks that make up the file
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<olizilla[m]> Seb: the ipld explorer might help... here is a link that shows how a a directory that contains a snapshot of the xkcd archive looks in the ipfs dag https://explore.ipld.io/#/explore/QmdmQXB2mzChmMeKY47C43LxUdg1NDJ5MWcKMKxDu7RgQm
<Seb2100[m]1> Okay, so every file is basically stored in a large merkle dag ?
<Seb2100[m]1> Or am I mistaken?
<olizilla[m]> yup, we all share one big merkle dag file system
<olizilla[m]> or more accurately, millions of tiny dags that can all be linked to
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<Seb2100[m]1> Ahh thanks 😃 I think I get it now 😃
<olizilla[m]> 🎉
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<TimMc> Seb2100[m]1: Though "stored" might be the wrong way to think about it.
<TimMc> There's no guarantee that any given leaf in the DAG is actually backed by extant data.
<TimMc> Data isn't uploaded into the graph; rather, *offers* for the data are uploaded.
<Seb2100[m]1> Yea. Do I understand it correctly that it stores references to blocks and blobs?
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<TimMc> Yeah, data is chopped up into chunks, and a file might be represented by a list of chunk references.
<TimMc> Basically git-like, if I understand it correctly.
<TimMc> no wait, sorry, git doesn't chop things up like that...
<Seb2100[m]1> So when a file is sent is it sent as blocks with a dag or ?
<TimMc> I think that's right. Heading out for now, though.
<Seb2100[m]1> Okay thanks for your input 😉
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<Naughtylus[m]1> Hi all!
<Naughtylus[m]1> I've recently come to notice that go-ipfs is using a constant 25% of my cpus for extended periods of time.
<Naughtylus[m]1> Sorry if that's been asked before but, are you guys experiencing the same ? Is it expected behaviour? What is causing this? And what is the daemon actually doing with so much power?
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<lidel> Naughtylus[m]1, do you have EnableAutoNATService or EnableRelayHop enabled? (check with: ipfs config --json Swarm)
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<Starism[m]1> Any workarounds?
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<TimMc> Seb2100[m]1: https://github.com/ipfs/papers/raw/master/ipfs-cap2pfs/ipfs-p2p-file-system.pdf (PDF download) -- see 3.5 Object Merkle DAG
<Naughtylus[m]1> <lidel "Naughtylus, do you have EnableAu"> I don't see those settings, here is the output
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<lidel> Naughtylus[m]1, ok. are you running v0.4.20 ?
<Naughtylus[m]1> No 0.4.19
<lidel> Naughtylus[m]1, update if possible. Another thing you can try is to run as dhtclient (ipfs daemon --routing=dhtclient) and see if it helped.
<lidel> It is also possible your consumer router does not like too many connections. You can tweak connection limits by setting HighWater and LowWater to 200 and 100 (you can check current limits via: ipfs config --json Swarm)
<Naughtylus[m]1> lidel: So I take it it's not standard. Then I wonder why it wasn't doing this before
<lidel> Naughtylus[m]1, no network changes? OS updates? Maybe your ISP started blocking something?
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<dwilliams> does anyone know why i would be able to add files but not be able to get them from public gateways? on the basic useage page, they give an example that looks like: `hash=`echo "I <3 IPFS -$(whoami)" | ipfs add -q` `curl "https://ipfs.io/ipfs/$hash"`. the curl just eventually times out
<dwilliams> i'm assuming maybe this is a port forwarding issue?
<Naughtylus[m]1> <dwilliams "does anyone know why i would be "> I've noticed this as well. Always attributed it to the gateway giving up on finding your node. Being the only node seeding content means your content is hard to find
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<dwilliams> Naughtylus[m]1: thanks. i'll keep digging. the basic example page does say that it can take a while, but doesn't say that it will timeout and fail
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<Naughtylus[m]1> <lidel "Naughtylus, no network changes? "> I've been using ipfs for about a year now, and only noticed this activity recently, so yeah either it has to do with an update of either go-ipfs or an other component of my system, or it has to do with my activity on ipfs. As for the ISP, I don't see how that would explain increased processing power.
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<Naughtylus[m]1> <dwilliams "Naughtylus: thanks. i'll keep di"> Maybe the gateway is a bit overloaded, or it has to do with the number of nodes currently online. I wouldn't worry too much about that. I guess you can always send me the hash of the test content, and I'll try to get it on my local node (can't timeout there)
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<Naughtylus[m]1> If you really want to make sure it works
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<dwilliams> Naughtylus[m]1: sure, its a picture of my son that I was using to test QmRsc2E1JzHofBSQkLB3QHcboNiYTNFcGiv1Ad7CtCLKay i was able to successfully get it from another computer using the ipfs cli so i do think it is working
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<dwilliams> i am just unable to access it through any public gateway it seems
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<postables1337[m]> Is there any research being done into privacy preserving methods of using the DHT?
<postables1337[m]> I've been working on some data gathering tools for a private network IPFS tool I'm writing for massive data sets and it's crazy how much data you can pick up about what people are looking for on the network just by sniffing DHT traffic
<aschmahmann[m]> postables: There are some thoughts at, and linked from, https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/291. I'm sure there are other issues around with thoughts about this as well.
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<postables1337[m]> Cool thanks
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