ELLIOTTCABLE changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a _better_ cult ˙ ͜ʟ˙ embrace, extend, extinguish.
<dskuza> I have this never ending internal debate as to whether English or polish is my first language
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: x_x haha same in some ways. part of the reason my French is so good is 3 generations ago my dad's side of the family was fluent Quebec-variety Frenchmen.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i can trace the French line of my family back to the 1600s. the Greenwoods or Boisverts were run out of France on a rail for being radical religious terrorists (and possibly Bastard children of the Crown).
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: i have had a random desire to learn French for like…two years now
<dskuza> Welp.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: I can help teach you if you need it :)
<BaronSamedi> 'welp'? dskuza?
<dskuza> Duolingo taught me a bit then i forgot to keep learning.
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: "welp" in regards to family lineage haha
<dskuza> Its interesting!
<katlogic> dskuza: If you can have inner dialogue both in english and other tongue, both are your first :)
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i'm also related to Thomas Vaughan...you might recognize the name because he was one of the alchemists who invented the philosophical/literary concept of the Philosopher's Stone.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i'm writing a book about my ancestors. they were all insane.
<dskuza> katlogic: problem solved!
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: and i mean that in the medical sense, not the insult sense -.-;;;;
<katlogic> dskuza: I've the very same odd feeling as you do, but I narrowed it to problems with code switching.
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: well considering they're deeply worth investigating, I'd consider you lucky
<katlogic> Takes a while to flip thought process from english to czech and back, the states inbetween being really weird.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i know i am :/ that's why it sucks. like, my native girlfriend knows fuckall about her background, and here i am swimming in a sea of records >.<;
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: my family was powerful enough that when they landed in the americas, they were not forced to americanise their names much. by that point Ellis Island for folks like my family was almost a formality, not a requirement.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: by 'ellis island' i mean port of entry, not necessarily THE ellis island. althought i have been to nyc for a week in 2008. the most educational vacation i've ever taken.
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: my dad says apparently there's some royal blood in our lineage or some crap, but he's also full of shit
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: well, because of the Boisverts can be traced back to the 17th century, there are indications. our family is prone to large foreheads and hair that is usually called 'jewfro' or more offensive terminology.
<dskuza> katlogic: i'm just glad i dont have to switch more than i currently have to. Or do i wish i had to more for practice?
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: my brother died of Edwards syndrome and i'm a potful of miscellaneous 'rare' disorders myself.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i'm not sure how my parents managed to breed but sometimes i wish that all 6 of my siblings had been miscarriages/stillbirths, not just 2 :(
<BaronSamedi> Forgive the awkward TMI, of course.
<BaronSamedi> :/
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: but it's all family history, which is quite interesting nonetheless, regardless of…issues(?) for lack of a better word
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: exactly. people think i'm writing a book to be narcissistic. no. i am finding out for my own reasonds.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: not to get all Lifetime on you, but i have PTSD from an abusive childhood and i'm forced to live with family for reasons of poverty today.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: so my research has a practical purpose as well as a literary one. i WILL cut thru the lies i was fed as a child. i WILL shed light in the darkness.
<BaronSamedi> the world WILL NOT be this way within the reach of my arm, if i have to burn down Heaven to do it.
* BaronSamedi grim
<dskuza> That's a hell of a positive spin - very good way of going about it.
<BaronSamedi> thank you. my last suicide attempt was August 25th, the same week i had a miscarriage.
<katlogic> dskuza: Nah, you're legit polan alright. Articles missing often enough and shit.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: lol mean
<purr> lol
<BaronSamedi> i have to put a positive spin on everything or my life begins to resemble a cruel joke, full of sound and fury.
<BaronSamedi> :P
<dskuza> Ah depression. My cruelest friend.
<dskuza> katlogic: how do i proper language
<katlogic> BaronSamedi: I've yet to see anyone of slavic language descent who gets those right 100%.
<katlogic> dskuza: Articles are nonsense anyway :)
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: as they say, all my inner demons are in the DSM-V
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: bipolar 1. PTSD. gad. and more, and worse.
<BaronSamedi> who gives a fuck?
* BaronSamedi keeps calm & carries on
<katlogic> bipolar, ptsd
<katlogic> I thought thats just how women are.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: there's a reason ELLIOTTCABLE says to run away screaming. i have rapid cycling and psychotic episodes.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: your misogyny is not amusing.
* BaronSamedi snorts
<BaronSamedi> also, i'm not a woman, i just look like one.
<BaronSamedi> intersex chromosomal disorders are such a joy.
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: sorry to hear that - but i hope your endeavor with writing a book at least helps ease some of the effects.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: at this point it's just a diversion. my real purpose is survival.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: but thank you :)
<dskuza> :-)
<BaronSamedi> which reminds me
<BaronSamedi> i need to upload my cover of Losing my Religion to Soundcloud for my friend katirzinja
<BaronSamedi> soundcloud.com/gqbrielle, advertising, yei~
<katlogic> BaronSamedi: You say it like its a bad thing. Seriously though, sure it's not a rule, but stereotypes exist for a reason...
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: spoken like a racist.
* BaronSamedi pats katlogic
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: Steam friend invite sent, decline if wanted, eh
<katlogic> BaronSamedi: It's the men who have no sympathy for your moodswings who are misogynistic :)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I forgot about katlogic when I deemed alexgordon the room bigot. ;)
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: no, it is anyone who literally says OHO I THOUGHT ALL WOMEN WERE BIPOLAR who is a misogynist, regardless of whatever excuses they slap on hastily afterwards.
* ELLIOTTCABLE pats katlogic
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -purr @ katlogic
* purr
<dskuza> Oh I'll accept!
* BaronSamedi :[ @ katlogic
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: okay! :)
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: please. compared to katlogic alexgordon is a friendly man from London :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon *is* a friendly man from London!
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: lol
<purr> lol
* ELLIOTTCABLE waves to alexgordon
<katlogic> ayee, /me stepped on another SJW elephant in the room
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: it's amusing that you call me a SJW for getting angry at you literally saying "all women are bipolar ayyy lmao"
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE: remember when you told me to stop out of college in this channel nearly 3-ish years ago? And then i did?
<joelteon> hey, "ayy lmao" is my thing
<BaronSamedi> I'd put you on ignore but I don't want to waste the energy involved typing it out, to be honest, katlogic
<dskuza> Drop*
* BaronSamedi disdainful
<katlogic> BaronSamedi: Obviously ELLIOTTCABLE is the SJW, unless you have chanops too :)
<BaronSamedi> +v would be nice, but if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: I don't have chanops for the reason that I'd abuse them. i don't have them. i don't want them. i don't need them.
<BaronSamedi> :[
<ELLIOTTCABLE> nor would you ever be given them, so all that is irrelevant :P
<joelteon> gotem
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: See, that's why I don't like you. You feel obligated to be insulting for no reason.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so can we go back to the part where *I* got called an SJE
<ELLIOTTCABLE> cannot
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: Or should I say, I feel mercurial about you?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> even
<joelteon> that's hardly insulting lol...
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: You are the one who called me mercurial, back when I wasn't even diagnosed. Thanks. It's a succint term that explains much and I've kept it as part of my personal lexicon about myself ever since...
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's insulting enough, I suppose
* ELLIOTTCABLE bows and apologizes
<katlogic> BaronSamedi: Anyhow, I honestly have no understanding (which makes me bigoted I guess) why people are so triggered about generalising certain, seemingly prevalent gender traits. Like men being often narcisstic. Women being moody.
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: It's okay. Earlier I called you stupider than the ex who raped me.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: Shut up, misogynist.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: I'm not engaging with you any further on this topic.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: Learn to take a no.
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: And if you think all men are narcissistic you're even more misandrist than I am, which is quite a feat.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> well, mercurial has nothing to do with any illness or anything. it's a simple personality trait by comparison
* BaronSamedi bows to ELLIOTTCABLE deeply in return
<joelteon> mercurial is a fucking version control system, you idiots
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: Please forgive my loss of temper, ELLIOTTCABLE-san.
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: lol!
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> more like … tasteful, or illogical, or quick to judge
<joelteon> jesus christ
* BaronSamedi smiles
<katlogic> BaronSamedi: Indeed, I just hate people for the most part.
<joelteon> holy butts
<ELLIOTTCABLE> joelteon: mercurial is a fucking version control system, you idiots” wat.
<joelteon> can we go 1 single day without everyone yelling at each other
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: Oh, here comes the OH NO I'M NOT A MISOGYNIST I'M JUST A MISANTHROPE
<ELLIOTTCABLE> joelteon: nonono where's the fun in that
<joelteon> it's right here
<joelteon> that's where the fun is
<ELLIOTTCABLE> also my i6 insists that should have been bonobo
<BaronSamedi> katlogic: You disgust me. You are not Dr. House. Not in #elliottcable. ELLIOTTCABLE is Dr House, we are his diagnostics team, and you're just a Foreman by comparison.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -listening bonobo
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE is listening to “Kiara”, by Bonobo
<dskuza> joelteon is fun because pokemon
<ELLIOTTCABLE> what
<ELLIOTTCABLE> BaronSamedi: wat.
<purr> beep.
<BaronSamedi> :>
<BaronSamedi> I'm Remy, of course.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> be nice, ish
<BaronSamedi> The bisexual with drug problems who comes in late all the time.
<BaronSamedi> :D
<dskuza> Let's talk about why ELLIOTTCABLE loves golang
<ELLIOTTCABLE> "even" to katlogic. I like him.
<joelteon> golang LOL
<katlogic> Nah, I'm used to this. My fault for intentionally triggering.
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<alexgordon> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: Well, I don't. Last I checked, the rules of #elliottcable were a) be interesting b) be useful c) don't be a twat. So he's broken all of those. I've broken very few.
<alexgordon> BaronSamedi: I am a friendly man from london
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<BaronSamedi> alexgordon: :3
<dskuza> Lmfao
<ELLIOTTCABLE> BaronSamedi: c's the only rule, and he's … riding the line.
<joelteon> Go: "How not to write a language, featuring computer science lessons from the past 30 years"
<dskuza> Let me never mention that-language-which-must-not-be-named again
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and I'm sure he knows that.
* ELLIOTTCABLE shrugs
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<alexgordon> C++ FOREVER
<alexgordon> bitches
<dskuza> joelteon: rust! d! anything released in the last few years!
<dskuza> You ugh I've been putting off working with c++ forever
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I don't believe there's any greyscale on the spectrum between "fine" and "banned" that's labeled 'insult the perp', y'know?
<alexgordon> C++ is like a good blowjob
<ELLIOTTCABLE> maybe best practice to choose between leaving somebody alone, or straight-up asking me to ban 'em.
<alexgordon> with teeth
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: wat-bait
<dskuza> Maybe that's why I haven't gotten around to it
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: watbait
<ELLIOTTCABLE> butwait
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hah
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: are you drunk again?
<joelteon> Lucario looks like it's wearing shorts made out of meat :/
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm crying so hard I can barely type
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and have been awake since 2 AM
<BaronSamedi> ...
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: stop crying why are you crying
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so basically yes
<dskuza> Maybe I can't work with c++ cuz it's like a good blowing until I experience a good blowjob!
BaronSamedi is now known as Elphaba
* Elphaba hugs ELLIOTTCABLE really hard
<ELLIOTTCABLE> BaronSamedi: liiiiiiife stuuuuuuufff
<Elphaba> I DIDN'T MEAN IT ABOUT TAYLOR
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: YOU'RE NOT REALLY AWFUL
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: PLEASE STOP CRYING
<ELLIOTTCABLE> chellllllio stuffffffff
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: *panics & starts crying too*
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: please stop crying :C
<ELLIOTTCABLE> sat on the couch and had it out.
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: oh :(
<Elphaba> i'm sorry...
<ELLIOTTCABLE> she's leaving in a monthish now
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and we really haven't talked about it AT ALL
<ELLIOTTCABLE> well, she found out I haven't been following her on Twitter for months, and somehow it was just the last straw, and … shit got weeeeeeird
<ELLIOTTCABLE> meh
<alexgordon> ....
<alexgordon> she dumped you because you didn't follow her on twitter?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so now she's in her bedroom and I in mine, and I'm going to try and sleep soon
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dumped?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wat
<alexgordon> I don't know
<alexgordon> isn't that what you just said?
<katlogic> ELLIOTTCABLE: The vapidness of you american people never ceases to amaze me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ELLIOTTCABLE: this is my buff
<ELLIOTTCABLE> bff*
<alexgordon> your buff, ok
<ELLIOTTCABLE> she's moving away soon, and in the process, is staying at my place for a monthish
<ELLIOTTCABLE> katlogic: oh listen, why don't you :P
<alexgordon> katlogic: czech your privilege
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: wat.
<purr> beep.
<katlogic> damn straight
<joelteon> commies aren't vapid
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's s long story. I get really hurt when I see things about her life. used to be a serious issue, when we were dating last year, for me to see her check in on foursquare to places with friends.
<joelteon> i've heard the economy is so bad they can only afford 4 personality traits
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'd get super lonely and jealous, and just be depressed for days.
<katlogic> Our superior slavic master race is much more honest about relationships. Usually we just change the facebook relationship status for the whole world to see.
<joelteon> and 3 of them are "drunk"
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so, over time, I've gradually removed myself from her online life. now I only interact with her in real life; I thought things were much healthier/happier that way.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> apparently she didn't realize that'd extended to Twitter sometime in the last few months, so …
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: you're odd, you know that?
<Elphaba> he's not odd
<Elphaba> i understand
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: whyzat
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: she's a stupid bitch. i'm sorry to be rude
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: but you are well rid of her
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: when she leaves if you buy me a ticket i'll come stay with you!
<alexgordon> Elphaba who are you and why have you stolen ELLIOTTCABLE's tab completion?
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: i'll make you cake and stuff and we can go to the gym together!
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Elphaba: how so? she hasn't done anything wrong here, and I'm not upset at her
<Elphaba> alexgordon: i'm gq
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: okay well....you are....bad with girls...sometimes...i'm saying thi snicely
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: and she's been taking advantage of you
<alexgordon> Elphaba: should have guessed
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: and i'm glad she's going
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: you're jealous of her foursquare checkins?
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: and that's all i have to say >.>
<ELLIOTTCABLE> meh, that's a conversation for another time.
<Elphaba> alexgordon: don't be a twat.
<alexgordon> Elphaba: so yesterday I found out that americans pronounce "twat" as "twot"
<katlogic> ELLIOTTCABLE: Is it really common for US people to measure social capital in terms of twitter followers, or is it just you :)
* katlogic has a deathwish and just wants Elphaba to be happy
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: when I'm alone, and haven't seen another human for a week, and then I notice that the reason she's not responding to texts is that she's out, *not* feeling social anxiety and hanging out with a bunch of people I've never met and she's never mentioned …
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yes. I immediately start to be unhappy.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: surely that's not her problem?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Because up until that moment I was *compfortable* with my programming and lifestyle.
<dskuza> alexgordon: tw-at, no?
<alexgordon> dskuza: yah... I don't understand how anybody could pronounce it any other way
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but then I remember that normal people have actual friends to hang out with irl actually-often; whereas I have exactly one.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> her.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and every moment she spends busy with her other friends, is a moment where I am not only reduced to *zero* available friends, but also have to watch while she, who's otherwise similar to me, gets to be beloved and socialized.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: never said it was her problem.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: it's gq who's claiming she's at fault, here, not me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> /=
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE: i'm an actual friend in the city but depression literally sucks the life out of me every waking moment and I'm terrible at hanging out.
<dskuza> I'm of somewhat similar nature
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: yah. and dayjob, and distance, and I don't know you super well, andandandandetc.
<dskuza> But we're still classified as friends ;-p just want to make that clear!
<dskuza> At least on my end
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway. all I was saying is that tonight is the first time I had it shoved in my face that yes, she's leaving; and yes, I'm going to be at home, completely alone, all day, every day, starting in about a month.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I realized a couple days ago that I see maybe two or three human beings a week, at this stage in my life. I'm accustomed to being waaaaaaaaaaay more social than this.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I really, really don't think I'm going to handle the coming months well. |=
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: that's why i offered to come :( if you don't want to pay i'll buy a bus ticket :(
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: no! stop! it will be okay!
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: nooo
* Elphaba grabs ELLIOTTCABLE's cheeks and forces him to smile
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Elphaba: I'm fiiiiine
<Elphaba> you will be okay! i promise!
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: LIES FUCKING LIES GOD DAMNED LIES
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<Elphaba> LIES AND MORE LIES
<ELLIOTTCABLE> sad, but stable.
* ELLIOTTCABLE glares
<Elphaba> ELLIOTTCABLE: fuck you, you lying liar face pants
<Elphaba> D:
<Elphaba> DON'T GLARE AT ME JUST BECAUSE I'M RIGHT
<Elphaba> FUCK YOU
<Elphaba> D:
<alexgordon> lol you guys
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ANYWAY ENOUGH OF THIIIIIIIS
<Elphaba> fine
* Elphaba sulks
Elphaba is now known as BaronSamedi
<BaronSamedi> >.<;;;;
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I AM THE GODDAMN ELLIOTTCABLER. I DO THE ELLIOTTCABLEING!
<BaronSamedi> I AM THE GODDAMN BATMAN
<BaronSamedi> I WILL DO THE BATMANNING AROUND HERE
<alexgordon> I AM LORD OF THE FURROWS
<BaronSamedi> MY PARENTS ARE DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
<ELLIOTTCABLE> BaronSamedi: wat.
<purr> beep.
<BaronSamedi> lol
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE: im going to have a DND/Pathfinder character named Elliott Fable
<dskuza> (spoiler)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Elliott Venture™
<katlogic> ELLIOTTCABLE: It's ok. That's just how we internet people reset to our basal state. Here, have a Pepe: http://i.imgur.com/C4LzM9Y.jpg
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wat on earth is that
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's my alternate universe name.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> already decided that I'm going to change my name at some point.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> one letter at a time
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: you play rpg tabletop games? i'm leaving my husband for you
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i'm kidding i'm not leaving anybody but srsly
<ELLIOTTCABLE> seven legal name-changes and five years later,
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: :D
<ELLIOTTCABLE> BaronSamedi: yes HE PLAYS WITHIUT ME
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: i just started my first game three weeks ago!
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: cannot even imagine how grumpy I was when JD told me :P
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: really? who is your cahracter named :D
<dskuza> That's why we are planning another with you!
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Gabrielle Butts
<ELLIOTTCABLE> middle name Hashtag
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: my first cahracter named oh god what was it...a;sidfya;isydf
<BaronSamedi> FUCKING SHUT UP EC
<BaronSamedi> no
<dskuza> Grunt the half-orc barbarian
<BaronSamedi> her name was like...oh god why can't i remember
<BaronSamedi> no
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: halfelvan ranger
<ELLIOTTCABLE> definitely changing my middle name to hashtag.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: her last name was like DeathWatch or something
<BaronSamedi> NO
<BaronSamedi> i remember
<BaronSamedi> it was Muerte
<BaronSamedi> and her first name was like
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Elliott # CABLE
<BaronSamedi> Elana
<dskuza> ELANA DE LA MUERTE
<BaronSamedi> yeah lol
<purr> lol
<BaronSamedi> isn't that so fucking dumb
<BaronSamedi> xd
<alexgordon> man I should buy that game
<alexgordon> it would be so fucking surreal
<BaronSamedi> alexgordon: jesus christ that picture xD
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<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i always play halfnhalf characters in D&D :)
<dskuza> Alexgordon I've a random urge to watch that shitty Charlie Sheen(sp?) animated film
<dskuza> Good fight?
<dskuza> Food*
<dskuza> Ugh
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: last time i played was a bard named...i forget the name but his instrument was a keyboard named Elton Jawn
<dskuza> LOL
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: he was a fullblood elf and VERY VERY VERY gay
<joelteon> an elf?
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: like, literally, we played with some guy my friends found on reddit and whenever he was like OH YOU ROLL LIKE A GIRL i would have the elf hit on his character. like, a paladin.
<joelteon> oh, oh, in d&d
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: its kind of fun being the asshole i wish i was in a game!
<joelteon> i thought we were talkng about some kind of tumblr thing
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: that's why all my characters are either lawful evil, chaotic neutral, or chaotic good. ALWAYS.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: :}
<dskuza> Chaotic neutral here, yep!
<alexgordon> another chaotic neutral
<alexgordon> it's the only way™
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i like you more every second. i'm so glad i'm not drunk or right about now i'd be like WHO WANTS TIT PICTURES???? (dw open marriage i do what i want online)
<BaronSamedi> ^_^
<joelteon> i do
<dskuza> lolololol
<joelteon> oh i mean uh
<joelteon> heh, that would be crazy!
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: you said i had fat girl tits. NONE FOR YOU, BYE
* BaronSamedi is the TIT PICTURE nazi
<joelteon> are you sure that wasn't my identical twin brother
<joelteon> joleteon
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: his name was joelteon or otters
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: 100% sure.
<joelteon> hmmm
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: nice try tho ;x
<joelteon> that doesn't sound like a thing I would say
<joelteon> oh well
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: it does to me
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: then we got in a pissing contest over who could li/f/t moar
<joelteon> why are there slashes in lift
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: stupidest fight i've ever had in #elliottcable INCLUDING the time that ELLIOTTCABLE told me he didn't care if my husband killed himself, he STILL thought the ACA was unethical.
<BaronSamedi> and then i didn't come back for months, i was so angry
<BaronSamedi> lawl.
<joelteon> wait, THAT was the dumbest one?
<joelteon> lol
<purr> lol
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: by my standards yes lol
<joelteon> amazing
<dskuza> Hmm. I've missed out on a lot, eh?
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: thank you ;x
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: not really lol
<joelteon> oh, i'm on buspirone starting today
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: really? wow, good luck
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: it works really well for me :D
<joelteon> what is it designed to do for you
<joelteon> you're on another antidepressant iirc
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: no, seroquel, which is an atypical antipsychotic recently reclassed as also being an antidepressant.
<joelteon> oh okay
<joelteon> the question stands
<dskuza> I was on Lexapro at some point and it did fuck all
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: i take buspar to cut down on like the SUICIDAL amounts of anxiety i have.
<joelteon> oh i see
<joelteon> and it works?
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<BaronSamedi> dskuza: lexapro is the devil's yellow piss. that shit does the job, but all wrong. everyone i know who has taken it eventually went off for a) being suicidal b) being happy but sex drive = nil c) something worse
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: like magic :)
<joelteon> cool
<joelteon> i'm on lexapro and it did really well to reduce my anxiety, but it did also wreck my sex drive, so that's what buspirone is for
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: like, to the point when i first took it i overthought and was like MAYBE IT'S NOT WORKING I SHOULD GO OFF JUST TO CHECK
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: and my husband was like *drops everything* DO NOT STOP TAKING THAT. DO NOT.
<BaronSamedi> i loled.
<purr> loled
<joelteon> nice
<BaronSamedi> heh
<joelteon> yeah, i have 18 hours of experience
<joelteon> it makes me a little dizzy but i think that's supposed to go away
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: yeah :)
<joelteon> okay, good
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: it does that to me too sometimes if i take it and forget to eat i stand up and fall over, like, unsconscious
<BaronSamedi> so THAT'S fun
<BaronSamedi> (i guess)
<BaronSamedi> lol
<joelteon> madeline texted me and said "are you horny yet?"
<dskuza> never bothered finding a psychiatrist to help with mess - only resorted to my psychologist's suggestion
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: lol
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: same
<dskuza> more*
<dskuza> Now I'm as depressed as ever and too lazy to fix it!
<joelteon> yeah, i've heard sooo many negatives about lexapro
<dskuza> If you guys do find stuff that works, I'll very much so research
<joelteon> when i first got on it i told one of my friends "hey, i'm finally going to fix my anxiety"
<BaronSamedi> uh, lol
<joelteon> and he says "uhh, that can cause genital insensitivity" or w/e
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: it works for my husband's anxiety but he also has to take ativans
<joelteon> and i said fuck
<BaronSamedi> maybe i should feed D buspars and see if it helps...
<BaronSamedi> his doctor thinks the side effects are because i'm a horny bitch
<joelteon> on its own it can cause premature ejaculation, so
<BaronSamedi> like whenever D asks his doctor who is like 95 is like OH YEAH THAT CAN HAPPEN
<BaronSamedi> and then wanders away.
<BaronSamedi> it's fucking infuriating.
<BaronSamedi> -.-;;;
<BaronSamedi> like you can SEE in his brain, he like looks at me and kind of snorts
<BaronSamedi> then looks back at d and is like WELL, IDK, YEAH, LIFESTYLE CHANGES COULD HELP *stares at my tits for a bit* BUT MOSTLY YEAH JUST...IDK THIS WORKS FOR YOU, LET'S KEEP YOU ON IT
<BaronSamedi> -.-
<BaronSamedi> i'm like JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE 95 AND HAVEN'T HAD A BONER SINCE YOU WERE 55 IS NO REASON TO BE A CREEPY TWAT
<BaronSamedi> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
<dskuza> alexgordon: i made sure to pronounce above spelling properly in my head!
<joelteon> 40 bonerless years
<joelteon> anyway i really hope i didn't totally ruin my first time for having been on lexapro at thetime
<BaronSamedi> good, dskuza
<BaronSamedi> it's pronounced 'twat' to rhyme with 'cat', like.
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: eh. you can always fix it later with more fuckin'
<BaronSamedi> :>
<joelteon> i guess
<BaronSamedi> no.
<BaronSamedi> i KNOW.
<BaronSamedi> my first time was a rape.
<dskuza> Hahahaha
<BaronSamedi> TRUST ME
<BaronSamedi> YOU CAN ALWAYS FIX IT LATER
<dskuza> Oh god
<BaronSamedi> O_O
<BaronSamedi> lol
<purr> lol
<BaronSamedi> sorry 4 tmi
<dskuza> I feel bad for laughing now
<BaronSamedi> hahaha
<joelteon> how could you
<BaronSamedi> don't
<BaronSamedi> i make rape jokes all the time lol
<joelteon> you know that's illegal BaronSamedi
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: to make rape jokes?
<BaronSamedi> NOBODY TOLD ME
<BaronSamedi> SHIT
<joelteon> no....
<BaronSamedi> IM 2 PRETTY 4 PRISON
<BaronSamedi> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
<joelteon> never mind
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<BaronSamedi> lel
<BaronSamedi> :>
<BaronSamedi> -fingernails @ joelteon
<purr> joelteon: dreeping down my strema
<BaronSamedi> lel
<joelteon> one of these days i will successfully deploy to this box again
<joelteon> butnottoday
<BaronSamedi> butts butts butts
<dskuza> This morning I told myself I'd do some programming outside of work today starting at 7PM. It's now 8 and YouTube and futurama have never been so interesting
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: :D
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: do what i do: code something illegal.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: like, an exploit or a hack.
<BaronSamedi> :3
* BaronSamedi is a little script kiddie - shhhhh
<BaronSamedi> i have a little folder of things that could get me arrested
<BaronSamedi> :3
<joelteon> meow
<BaronSamedi> mrew.
<dskuza> Oh don't even get me started on how I want to be popular because I wrote a jailbreak or some shit
<BaronSamedi> lol
<purr> lol
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: what did you write? :D
<BaronSamedi> mine are all dumb stuff
<BaronSamedi> like, crackers & stuff
<dskuza> Instead I write bullshit obj-c apps even though I hate it now
<BaronSamedi> little password guessing bots
<BaronSamedi> just for practice.
<joelteon> i too am a dumb cracker
* BaronSamedi laughs
<dskuza> No i /want/ to learn RE and security stuff and whatnot but, eh. lazy.
<BaronSamedi> oh
<BaronSamedi> well
<BaronSamedi> i learned by watching others
<dskuza> ?
<BaronSamedi> and hanging out on Rizon in all the wrong places
<BaronSamedi> and helping with purr
<BaronSamedi> :3
<BaronSamedi> i'm better at rote memorization than learning
<BaronSamedi> that's why i'm so good at languages....like, speaking languages
<BaronSamedi> THAT AND BEING AN EXCELLENT MIMIC.
<BaronSamedi> :D
<dskuza> I'm very tempted to quit my job for some research time haha
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: do it omg
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: tell them you're taking a sabbatical
<BaronSamedi> :d
<BaronSamedi> *:D
<ELLIOTTCABLE> "StageBatical"
<dskuza> lolol
<purr> lolol
<dskuza> I've almost quit about 4 times in the last month -ish
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: that place sounds bad for your depression :/
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: where do you work if you don't mind my asking...
<dskuza> If there is anything I'm good at, it's indecision
<BaronSamedi> heh
<dskuza> Startup in Chicago called stagebloc
<BaronSamedi> oh god startups
<BaronSamedi> QUIT IMMEDIATELY.
<BaronSamedi> save your resume some fluff.
<BaronSamedi> >.<;;;
<dskuza> I like the team and everything but it's just not what I want to do anymore haha
<BaronSamedi> i know it's the big thing in programming circles to join or make a startup
<BaronSamedi> but uh
<BaronSamedi> no thank you
<BaronSamedi> i'd offer you ajob if i could :(
<BaronSamedi> ha
<BaronSamedi> i should start up that linked in i was thinking about
<BaronSamedi> :/
<dskuza> But then I have no degree AND depression AND no fundamental CS skills to pass an interview!
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: for reference, in case you're interested, i pay $10/hr for everyone i hire.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: or a flat rate.
<dskuza> Haven't touched algs or data structures in years
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: ...really. interesting
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: okay, well, let me ask you: what do you WANT to do?
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: like, assume infinite financial backing. what would you do if you could do ANYTHING?
<BaronSamedi> :3
<dskuza> Idk, take time to figure out what I do want to do.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: no like. what are your interests? top 3.
<dskuza> I would buy expensive fast things and ride them very dangerously
<BaronSamedi> iiiinteresting
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i need a driver.
<dskuza> Motorcycles, sleeping, and uhh…coding when it's not bullshit
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: my meds and my psychological instability make it impractical for me to drive myself somewhere most of the time.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i have triggers still from my last accident. i was changing lanes. a girl was speeding and hit me at 40 mph. i slid into an intersection.
<BaronSamedi> :/
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i take the attitude that i /can/ do everything myself, but why? transportation is inefficient.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: if i could, i'd move to innercity portland/seattle/outer boroughs NYC.
<BaronSamedi> just for the public transportation.
<dskuza> I've gotten /close/ to a bad accident, but never bad. Luckily.
<BaronSamedi> well
<BaronSamedi> i was driving my exgf to the airport
<BaronSamedi> she was not my ex at the time.
<BaronSamedi> she was angry at me
<BaronSamedi> i was distracted.
<BaronSamedi> i was at least 40% at fault.
<BaronSamedi> she blamed me for the accident.
<BaronSamedi> which is why we broke up.
* BaronSamedi shivres
<BaronSamedi> shivers*
<dskuza> BaronSamedi: a motorcycle is the only thing i feel im genuinely in control of, and its the rush i need to not want to destroy myself later that day instead
<BaronSamedi> i do not like remembering that day.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: interesting...
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: what is the bullshit in coding that bothers you, precisely? the personal drama? the comparing dick size over projects? etc? or something else?
<dskuza> Its such a mental task that it's a distraction from everything I hate. Which is 99% of everything.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i see. are you currently receiving treatment for your depression? i'm not asking to judge. i'm just curious. :)
<dskuza> Not anymore, I haven't seen my psychologist in years. Two, nearly?
<dskuza> I'm not sure - the monotony of it right now.
<dskuza> My personality needs assurance that I have something new to do or work on constantly.
<dskuza> Or else I get bored and really sad
<dskuza> (ELLIOTTCABLE now you're learning more about me! ;-))
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> you're just doing terrible work.
<BaronSamedi> no, he's not.
<BaronSamedi> his work sounds valuable
<BaronSamedi> without seeing it i cannot judge further.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> at least, what it seems like from the outside.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> BaronSamedi: you parsed that wrong
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: your startup is lucky to have you, but they're a) either treating you wrong or b) not paying you enough or c) something worse.
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: probably.
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: sorry.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I've spent half a year coaching chellio through personal troubles that, on the surface, sound similar.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> she just doesn't have the depression behind them, superpowering 'me
<ELLIOTTCABLE> em*
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: interesting.
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: may i ask a personal question?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> sorry bbl more chellio
<BaronSamedi> ...
<BaronSamedi> fine
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ugh
<ELLIOTTCABLE> she just walked in
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: when you get back...why did you do this after the breakup? why didn't you just make her leave?
<BaronSamedi> o_o
<BaronSamedi> ELLIOTTCABLE: i realise you have an odd breakup history, but...people leaving/not living together for at least a year postbreakup is traditional for a reason (now i sound like katlogic -.-)
<dskuza> See are they lucky? I'm just another programmer. I can write enough to get by, then hate it the next day because spaghetti. They don't need me, they need someone who can do as much as me, but happily.
<BaronSamedi> Anyway. Obviously it is your life & your ex ELLIOTTCABLE and what you do with her is CERTAINLY none of my busines. So. Yeah.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: they need you. if they are rude to you over your depression, they need to a) stop b) listen c) get some FUCKING EMPATHY. depression is well understood in modern western medical society! that is not your fault!
<BaronSamedi> my god.
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE: i might be doing invaluable work, but as a 21YO dropout, the money to me is still money. Already been rejected by enough other companies that I'm afraid to try anymore.
<dskuza> Nah, they're not rude. They gave me a week off once after I tweeted something. Internet > human confrontation.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: ...interesting.
<dskuza> Its one of those things where I won't blame anyone but myself. I just honestly don't care anymore.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: i'm a 25 year old. i was forcibly dropped from university at 21 for reasons related to uncontrolled bipolar/PTSD.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: that's because of the depression.
* BaronSamedi grabs dskuza hands & looks into his eyes
<dskuza> If I wanted to, I'd man up and do exactly what I wanted.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: this is very important. pay attention: 1) your depression is not your fault 2) this is not related to 'how much of a man you are' 3) you are perfect, valuable, and smart the way you are.
<dskuza> But nah. Why get judged by everyone again? Heh.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: ^
<dskuza> I know it's not my fault, but it is my fault for not wanting to do anything about it.
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: no. that is the depression.
* BaronSamedi stares into dskuza's eyes
<BaronSamedi> listen to me.
<dskuza> I've just not progressed in anything I've done the last 10 years as much as I know I'm capable of.
<BaronSamedi> my husband has unipolar depression
<dskuza> I'm listening, I swear!
<BaronSamedi> he is 26
<BaronSamedi> he dropped out of HS at 16
<BaronSamedi> because of depression
<BaronSamedi> it was not his fault
<BaronSamedi> it is not your fault.
<BaronSamedi> he started university this monday.
<BaronSamedi> he is not a failure. neither are you.
<BaronSamedi> :)
<dskuza> I'm trying, kind of, to understand that.
<dskuza> Of course, cliché response of "but it's hard"
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: of course it's hard! :D nobody is trying to tell you that you are bad or a failure here
* BaronSamedi hugs dskuza
<BaronSamedi> ACCEPTANCE
* BaronSamedi hugs dskuza moar
<BaronSamedi> ACCEPTANCE
<BaronSamedi> YOU ARE PERFECT THE WAY YOU ARE
<BaronSamedi> ACCEPT IT DAMMIT
<BaronSamedi> D:
<dskuza> Thanks :3
<BaronSamedi> :3
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<devyn> damn that corundrum thing is stupid and great
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<joelteon> is that some kind of ruby joke
<BaronSamedi> lol
<purr> lol
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<incomprehensibly> ELLIOTTCABLE: u get the invite?
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<dskuza> time to start a war: what language should I have fun with next?
<joelteon> polish
<dskuza> can't too busy learning english
<dskuza> but now i have a strange urge to play pokemon because of your name
<whitequark> dskuza: german
<dskuza> i suppose i should have specified programming language xP
<dskuza> whitequark: that has been on my to-do list since I first met some family in Austria
<BaronSamedi> dskuza: oh, then coffeescript
<whitequark> dskuza: ocaml
<whitequark> screw coffeescript
<joelteon> okay, it turns out that you're not supposed to take grapefruit juice and buspirone at the same time
<joelteon> coffeescript as a language?
<joelteon> no, learn C preprocessor
<whitequark> dskuza: you can actually use js_of_ocaml and it's sane.
<whitequark> joelteon: you too with UTI?
<joelteon> no
<whitequark> is it an epidemic or what
<joelteon> it's just funny
<joelteon> because grapefruit juice
<joelteon> it's weird
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: oh, no, you can, it just MASSIVELY increases the dose
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: like taking with alcohol :)
<joelteon> oh
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: i'm master of mixing meds with things i am specifically instructed not to
<BaronSamedi> you won't die
<BaronSamedi> (probably)
<BaronSamedi> ;x
<joelteon> ;x
<BaronSamedi> hehe
<BaronSamedi> i avoid grapefruit juice anyway
<joelteon> after 36 hours i'm already amazed at how well buspar works
<BaronSamedi> shit tastes like piss
<BaronSamedi> joelteon: i'm glad! it works really well for me :)
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> hi
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: hi!
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<dskuza> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
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<joelteon> hi E C
<ELLIOTTCABLE> holy shit
<ELLIOTTCABLE> suddenly realizing I don't know if my apartment can *support* four ASIC Bitcoin miners.
<whitequark> are you going to make any profit with those?
<whitequark> I ... can hardly believe that you are
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 2kw at 120v in the U.S. means like 17amps
<ELLIOTTCABLE> god knows what the limit of my building's power-grid per-apartment is, but I don't imagine it's over 40A
<ELLIOTTCABLE> sent that to #inimino by accident first :x
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: did the math day before yesterday, you missed out
<whitequark> gimme tl;dr
<ELLIOTTCABLE> about half of the profit is going to go towards electricity
<whitequark> of the earnings?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but the profit still comes out, at the insanely low exchange-rates of that day, to about $11/day
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yeh, sorries
<ELLIOTTCABLE> of course, that'll drop with time, hugely
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but as long as they run at a profit, I'm happy. I paid almost nothing for this.
<whitequark> $11/day to put your apartment at a risk of fire
<ELLIOTTCABLE> LOL
<purr> LOL
<ELLIOTTCABLE> YEAH THAT
<ELLIOTTCABLE> in all reality, if the damn things *get to me at all*, I'm either
<whitequark> lol you don't even have them?
<whitequark> also
<ELLIOTTCABLE> A) going to call an electrician to come in and figure out where/if I can safely put them
<whitequark> are those butterfly lab things?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and B) may just colocate them in a shitty centre down the block
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yep.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's an insanely long and messy story
<whitequark> yeah I've seen it made news
<whitequark> I'm not surprised at all.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> no, the news has been hugely wrong.
<whitequark> hm?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> the company was competent and easy to work with.
<whitequark> isn't their business model basically "charge customers to recoup ASIC setup costs, mine bitcoins for half a year, ship ASICs when they stop being profitable"?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> the only reason they're in receivership and under investigation is a bunch of fucking idiotic new-money children are impatient and don't know how to plan for the lead-time on an investment against the risk of the investment.
<whitequark> as is for most ASIC miners these days.
<whitequark> (or, perhaps, ever)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ‘oooooo poopies, bitcoin's value is changing! when *I* put my life savings into these gadgets, I thought I'd be able to sell their products for $1,000+, but now they're down to $400! I'm ruined! This is somehow Butterfly Labs' fault!’
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I doubt it.
<whitequark> well you see
<whitequark> they still didn't ship them.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> If so, they'll be indicted for fraud.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> they did.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> they shipped mine late, yes, but no later than I'd expect with any other experimental technology.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's not like it was five fucking years or something.
<whitequark> only have to wait until the network readjusts!
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Given past experiences with electronics-related kickstarters and shit (which by no means makes me an expert; but *does* give me expectations), I *assumed* a years' lead-time
<whitequark> :}
<whitequark> you get profit from mining AND from your customers.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway, not my place to argue the politics of bitcoin mining.
<whitequark> I mean, that would be a smart thing to do.
<whitequark> unethical, but smart
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: again, I don't believe that's what's happening. This isn't Russia.
<whitequark> pffffffrt
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: but if it is, they'll be found out, and go t'jail. *shrug*
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<whitequark> your belief in justice is adorable
<joelteon> fucking fuck
<ELLIOTTCABLE> funny thing is, after all that, what might end up preventing me from getting them is *not* some big imaginary Bitcoin conspiracy; it's fucking FedEx.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: Have you *lived* in the U.S.? Do you have any experience with our legal system? I do. Extensively.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> It's not some misplaced faith. I know how things work here. You don't. |=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway, back to the technical questions relevant to this channel.
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: by this logic, you have no right to judge Russia :p
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I only judge it from what you tell me! I know nothing about it except those anecdotes :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I view Russia through a whitequark-coloured lens.
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE is one of few, if not the only, American I know that spells color 'colour'
<joelteon> color is how you spell it in american
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: lol hi
<purr> lol
<whitequark> I see US in exactly same way! not via you, but quite a bunch of other people
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: wanna host a Bitcoin miner at your place for me? :P
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE gimme part of the profit and maybe
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: *nods* which is my assumption, and why I call you out.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: you hear things through an inarticulate, inexperienced lens. The vast majority of Americans are extremely swayed by the media (including me); and *most* of our beliefs about our own country are through what we hear there.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> But exactly what are the media going to be portraying? The sensational stories, of course. That's where the profit, is, because that's where the interest is.
<whitequark> that's not unique to US by any measure
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Unfortunately, failure is interesting; and that means we'll be hearing inordinately of failure, for those aspects of the external world that affect our lives, but which we judge largely through aforementioned media.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (I definitely think it's *worse* in the U.S., but there's some bias there to be admitted.)
<dskuza> patriotism!
<dskuza> I think America sucks the /most/ because I'm a REAL American!
<dskuza> Also that's not what you're saying at all.
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: let me put it this way
<whitequark> fraud is rampant in bitcoin, including with US-based companies
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Anyway. It's a pattern I've seen time and time again, with those few parts of life that I've yet managed to involve myself in: from the outside, everything seems like a constant trainwreck, and we assume that it is one; but once you involve yourself daily, in real life, in that aspect of life, it turns out to be completely … well, boringly stable, and the
<ELLIOTTCABLE> approaches taken turn out to actually be effective.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: “I think America sucks the /most/ because I'm a REAL American!” wat
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: “I think America sucks the /most/ because I'm a REAL American!” wat.
<purr> beep.
<whitequark> which is the main reason I judge butterfly labs like that.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway, meh,
<dskuza> a terrible play on "(I definitely think it's *worse* in the U.S., but there's some bias there to be admitted.)"
<whitequark> you're free to disagree, etc
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wonder how much I can safely put on a single house circuit.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: something I can understand, and would agree with if I hadn't had my own experience with them *shrug*
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: so, how much the profit is after you subtract electrician's fees?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: but I see a *lot* of sensationalism in the bitcoin community.
<dskuza> find some cheap recently-abandoned warehouse in the hood, ELLIOTTCABLE, and you're set.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and, frankly, I truly believe a huge quantity of it is blown out of proportion by the circumstances:
* whitequark pushes ELLIOTTCABLE off his soapbox
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's formed *almost entirely* by new money; people who are putting Real Shit on the lines for the first time in their lives;
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and those people are naturally going to be more *sensitive* than a more balanced community.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> everything is guaranteed to be blown all out of porportion.
* whitequark pushes ELLIOTTCABLE off his smaller soapbox that he inexplicably ended up at after falling from the previous one
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so, I believe you can take any Bitcoin rumor or event, and deflate its' importance/seriousness/etc by a solid 80% before trying to glean actual knowledge of the event.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> #soapboxesallthewaydown
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dskuza: might just colocate them, but, cuts into my meagre profits even more.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ideally going to try to just host them here in the apartment.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and maybe buy a few extra fire extinguishers.
<dskuza> rent out another place! ;P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> okay, whitequark, how do I read an electrical panel :P
<dskuza> i'll keep the them company.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> first number I saw was ‘MLO: 125A’
<whitequark> Main Lug Only panel
<whitequark> uh
<whitequark> can you take a photo of all your wiring or something? would be easier
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol sur
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: http://imgur.com/a/xn5wJ
<ELLIOTTCABLE> teach me things!
<whitequark> holy shit this is a nicely done panel
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol rly? looks exactly like every other one I've seen
<purr> lol
<whitequark> well the ones in russia range from "one rusty switch (not even breaker) that looks like it's not been changed since 1980 (hint: it probably was not)"
<whitequark> to "I see someone felt a need to subsidize local production of breakers, local incompetent electricians and Chinese panel makers"
<whitequark> this one I have here has a circuit printed on it. this makes it outright *great*
<whitequark> lemme photo
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<uncomprehensibly> incomprehensibly: hi
<whitequark> the breakers are real shitty, the panel itself is done mostly ok. however compared with yours it's just so underwhelming
<whitequark> ec: thought
<whitequark> "bonding screw" has two meanings
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