<glowcoil>
unrelated, i wish we had rationals everywhere
<alexgordon>
he's a greater fraud than I am
<alexgordon>
;)
<glowcoil>
:p
<glowcoil>
alexgordon: aren't rationals a great idea though
<alexgordon>
glowcoil: errrr, no
<glowcoil>
why not
<alexgordon>
glowcoil: they're fine, but they shouldn't replace integers
<alexgordon>
they use twice as much memory
<alexgordon>
plus they have to be normalized
<alexgordon>
they're obviously quite slow in software, you could maybe make them sufficiently fast in hardware, but the memory problem isn't solvable
<joelteon>
yeah but you'd use rationals for reasons
<joelteon>
not just to use rationals
<alexgordon>
joelteon: glowcoil said rationals everywhere
<joelteon>
oh
<joelteon>
i misunderstood
<joelteon>
nvm, thats dumb af
<alexgordon>
if you want to store a 64-bit number you need a 64-bit numerator, and then a denominator of 1 :P
<alexgordon>
which is kinda silly really
<joelteon>
not like people pay attention to performance often anyway
<joelteon>
would rationals just be a replacement for floats or all numbers
<alexgordon>
glowcoil: I do like rationals though. I was doing some stuff with relative word frequency a couple of months ago. I tried using python's BigDecimal thing, but it gave me rounding errors
<alexgordon>
so I switched to rationals and everything was exactly representable
<alexgordon>
\o/
<glowcoil>
alexgordon: of course not integers
<glowcoil>
alexgordon: just floats
<joelteon>
ok then yeah
<alexgordon>
floats are still useful for games
<joelteon>
floats are dumb anyway
<joelteon>
well make them explicit
<joelteon>
use a sigil or something
<alexgordon>
in furrow (*collective groan*) my thinking is to just have everything there, as first class
<glowcoil>
alexgordon: that's cool glad to see a real life example
<alexgordon>
then you use the right tool for the job
<joelteon>
alexgordon i don't think anybody here hates furrow except you
<alexgordon>
joelteon: well I'm always talking about it but I've never completed the compiler
<alexgordon>
which I'm acutely aware of
<joelteon>
oh ok
<joelteon>
well compilers are hard
<joelteon>
keep working on it
<joelteon>
i want to use furrow
<alexgordon>
so little time
<alexgordon>
glowcoil: I think like 1/2 should be a rational literal
<alexgordon>
although hm that would be weird if you changed the 1 to an "x" and you got floats instead
<alexgordon>
1/2q ?
<joelteon>
1/2f
<alexgordon>
joelteon: you're saying rationals should be default?
<joelteon>
absolutely
<alexgordon>
:\
<joelteon>
i can't remember the last time i used floats for something
<alexgordon>
that reminds me of how bigints are default in python and it sucks
<joelteon>
ummmmm
<joelteon>
i used rationals during a playoff simulator
<nuck>
glitter. I think elliott's gone full gay on us
<devyn>
he always was...
<devyn>
:p
<gq>
ELLIOTTCABLE is at home, making crafts
<gq>
i'm not sure what to do with this information
<gq>
also ELLIOTTCABLE i saw aaron diaz reply to you on twitter. i think you and cole are the two best people i know for getting People Of Note to reply to your tweets
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
well, it helps that I'm a People Of Note
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
never forget:
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
-d class
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
-find d class
<purr>
ELLIOTTCABLE: Found: css
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
-css
<purr>
ELLIOTTCABLE: I'd class.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
…
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
…
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
…
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
back to glitter-glue.
<gq>
ELLIOTTCABLE: wait! how do i add things to the -what repository?
<gq>
(inb4 the answer is 'apply glitter glue, wait 5 minutes')
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
reply to the person, with a colon, and either the words "what" or "wat", and a period.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
used to be more general, but I had to make it very specific, so it'd stop catching unrelated unfunny shit in other channels
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
gq: wat.
<purr>
beep.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
like that
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'll probably just add an explicit command, I guess. ugh. stupid.
<devyn>
I don't feel like doing anything at all right now
<devyn>
like
<devyn>
if I could actually just do nothing
<devyn>
I want to
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
devyn: so what's up? you've seemed down for a while.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
comisserate with me.
<devyn>
I have no good ideas lately
<devyn>
my life is just work and school and that's it
<devyn>
and sometimes I hang out with friends
<purr>
<elliottcable> writing *completely* unabstracted Paws is like pulling teeth. from a tiger. with a dildo.
<devyn>
and then one friend brought this girl to dinner with us (with a whole bunch of other people)
<devyn>
she was really great
<devyn>
ended up talking to her for a week
<devyn>
something happened
<devyn>
she became distant
<devyn>
and then suddenly last night she's like, oh yeah, now I have a boyfriend since like a day ago
<devyn>
>_>
<devyn>
we were going to go on a date and she had to cancel because of a family emergency
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
… turns out pink feather boas *shed*. A lot.
<devyn>
all of that within a week
<devyn>
it takes a fucking toll
<devyn>
ugh
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ugh.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I've got similar stories.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
things with my long-term gf fell slowly apart
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
you know, the kind of falling apart that brings to mind Kerbal Space Program when you didn't use enough struts
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
random shit wobbling violently in all sorts of directions, breaking off and screaming across the sky, doing a cartwheel, and somehow coming right back at you,
<devyn>
hah
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
all the while you're still headed on a nominally vertical trajectory, against all logic.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
… until you're not.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
“You will not be going to space, today.”
<devyn>
:(
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
… so, I broke up with her. Partially because I thought I could do better.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but of couuuuuurse, all my other prospects or interests IMMEDIATELY went to shit.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and I immediately had all of the self-confidence I'd built up ripped out from under me; so, after a couple years of consistent, mindblowing sex … high-self-esteem-encouraging experiences with several partners and in various situations …
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
… I'm somehow back to feeling like a worthless, unwanted, socially incapable nerd.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
thought that part of my life was well and truly over more than a year ago. |=
<devyn>
cool, me too, except the self confidence came from doing well at work and school and meeting new people
<devyn>
and now I just feel like shit
<devyn>
I really would just like to be friends with her anyway
<devyn>
but I'm afraid it's going to be so toxic
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ick
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
that shit never goes well
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
best of luck, though.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
is she still talking to you.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
?
<devyn>
yeah
<devyn>
when she told me I was actually pretty relieved, because it put to rest my anxiety that it had something to do with me
<devyn>
when really she just didn't know what to do, I guess
<devyn>
so she was glad that I was taking it well
<devyn>
...and then I went to bed
<devyn>
and I never have dreams, but for some fucking reason I had to have a dream about her
<devyn>
idk what even to do now
<devyn>
I'm so broken after trying so hard
<devyn>
and I have such a lack of interest in doing anything lately *anyway*
<devyn>
ELLIOTTCABLE: love is great and it also sucks. :|
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
>:
<joelteon>
I haven't met any girls in months
<devyn>
at all? is that even possible?
<joelteon>
no like
<joelteon>
"met"
<devyn>
ah
<devyn>
heh
<joelteon>
which is definitely possible
<joelteon>
coming up on a year now
<joelteon>
no wait, it's more than that by now
<nuck>
Yeah I haven't Metropolitan Museum of Art in months either
<joelteon>
ok
<nuck>
It's a wonder why I'm still a virgin
<nuck>
With puns like that :D
<devyn>
hahaha
<joelteon>
that was a pun?
<nuck>
:<
<nuck>
The Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC is better known as "met"
<joelteon>
oh, ok
<joelteon>
that's definitely the weakest joke i've heard today, probably this week too
<joelteon>
but nice one
<devyn>
hahahaha
<nuck>
Terrible awkward puns runs in my family
<nuck>
It's a genetic defect
<nuck>
damn now I feel kinda lonely
<nuck>
Guess it's just me and this pillow
<devyn>
man I forgot; pillows feel so good
<nuck>
They're so nice to hug
<joelteon>
you're a sad sack
<nuck>
There's just no emotions there. When will somebody make a pillow that cries on your shoulder?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I SUCK AT CRAFTS
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
HELP GUYS IT's ALMOST THREE AM
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I HAVE TO SLEEP AND GET UP EARLY AND TAKE THIS OUT INTO THE COLD, COLD MORNING LIGHT
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
UGHGHGHTHGH
* gq
giggles
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
gq: hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi
<gq>
ELLIOTTCABLE: hi hi hi
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
gq: hi
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
look reverse exponentiation
<devyn>
nuck: seriously this is helping so much... why do pillows feel so good
<devyn>
and why did I forget
<devyn>
>_<
<gq>
ELLIOTTCABLE: so why are you doing crafts?
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<glowcoil>
<3 björk
<purr>
Let it be known that glowcoil hearts björk.
<nuck>
devyn: pillows are soft and squishy and huggable
<nuck>
And they never betray you
<gq>
almost never
<gq>
feather pillows can be a bit pokey.
<nuck>
only if you buy cheap ones
<nuck>
Get higher down percentage and it's nice
<nuck>
I'm hoping to get a 30-50% down to replace this shit IKEA pillow I've got
<nuck>
Or maybe a hybrid foam
<nuck>
foam can be really nice if you firm it up enough that it doesn't smother you in your sleep, like you did to your gran-- I mean
<nuck>
yeah
* nuck
coughs
<purr>
<micahjohnston> I'm really excited to do Cunts next semester?
<glowcoil>
oh god
<gq>
pfff
<devyn>
yeah I have a memory foam like pillow
<devyn>
feels so good
<devyn>
and it's heavy too
<nuck>
I've got a cheap body pillow, a cheap ikea pillow, and one pillow that's actually of a reasonable quality
<nuck>
And that's my feather pillow
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* whitequark
suddenly remembered a children's rhyme
<whitequark>
бедный бедный наш кисель / перешел из золя в гель
<devyn>
-ель? and what does the rhyme mean
<whitequark>
pity our poor kissel / it was sol and now it's gel
<whitequark>
I *think* I've preserved the rhytm
<devyn>
it was sol and now it's gel?
<devyn>
how does that make sense?
<whitequark>
surprisingly it's still rhyming in exact same way
<whitequark>
well
<whitequark>
sol and gel are two states of colloid solutions
<devyn>
okay, well, what is a sol
<devyn>
what is sol*
<devyn>
oh I found ot
<devyn>
it*
<devyn>
> Examples include blood, pigmented ink, cell fluids and paint.