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<purr> <alexgordon> these people have strange penises
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<purr> * devyn haggasadandalcold
<purr> <vil> I don't actually wear my rug much anymore
<joelteon> so this kid is trying to recruit me to brute-force runescape logins.
<joelteon> so he has a dump of the database for this server, which stores passwords in plaintext.
<joelteon> and what he did was
<joelteon> extract all the password
<joelteon> s
<joelteon> put them in a file
<joelteon> and then he finds a user he wants to "hack" and tries to log in as their username + every password in the list.
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<glowcoil> joelteon: lol
<purr> lol
<whitequark> lol
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<whitequark> hahahahaha buildbot is fucking awesome
<whitequark> almost awesome as purr
<whitequark> 05:22 < bb-chapuni> build #20667 of cmake-clang-x86_64-linux is complete: Failure [failed build_clang] Build details are at http://bb.pgr.jp/builders/cmake-clang-x86_64-linux/builds/20667 blamelist: Peter Zotov <whitequark@whitequark.org>
<whitequark> 05:23 < whitequark> bb-chapuni: lies!
<whitequark> 05:23 < bb-chapuni> What you say!
<glowcoil> whitequark: haha
<joelteon> fortune is the best enchantment...
<joelteon> I just found a cell of 6 diamonds
<joelteon> 6 diamond ore that is
<joelteon> but it turned into 13 diamonds
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fucking fucking fucking FUCK, KSP
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: put a lot of work today into figuring out dV and shit
<ELLIOTTCABLE> using Engineer heavily now
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but that thing you linked me, with dV's for each place? is WILDLY innacurate for anything in the real-world.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> perhaps it works if you use MechaJeb, or have a PERFECT hand-eye coördination *and* a complete an thorough understanding of fake-orbital-mechanics,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but for a real person like me, even after something like ten orbital shots to the moon (more than enough time to learn the basics and not make huge-ass, costly, mistakes), it's still usually at least twice in dV cost what that chart claims ddis
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway. finally made a successful landing,
<devyn> by the way, can anyone explain to me why the forums at bodybuilding.com are so relevant to internet culture and seemingly unrelated to bodybuilding at all?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and then hit the goddamn spacebar to take off instead of throttling up. because that's what I'm used to doing.
<devyn> what the fuck?
<devyn> I mean it's basically somethingawful
<devyn> what the
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: yes, that thing describes minimal Δv you need
<whitequark> 2x sounds like quite a bit of excess though
<ELLIOTTCABLE> which ejected my top capsule from my lander, and left it engine-less, but completely intact.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so now I have the lander, engines, landing-gear, and all my batteries …
<purr> <alexgordon> is that when the asians arrive?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> … and sitting perfectly upright next to it, the capsule, all the science gear, my Kerbal, and a dead battery and useless antenna.
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: I think there was some kind of a lock
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but most importantly, I'm having a *hell* of a time
<ELLIOTTCABLE> building a “lander” with remotely enough dV to get home.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> christ fucking almighty, this is supposed to be easy.
<whitequark> is it?
<whitequark> KSP is not an easy game
<whitequark> kinda roguelike
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<glowcoil> one of my musical heroes just followed me back
<glowcoil> :33
<whitequark> never ends well
<whitequark> you discover that he is actually a fundamentalist asshole or something
<glowcoil> lol
<purr> lol
<glowcoil> i've followed him for a while, he's a really nice guy :p
<whitequark> or that he is just a tired old man and you pity him instead of worshipping
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fuck ME
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fuck ME I did it AGAIN
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but then after they separated, the thruster was already going at low power, and I rode the goddamn thing into orbit
<ELLIOTTCABLE> … or rather, rode it away from the planet
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and then ALMOST established orbit, using ONLY RCS THRUSTERS
<ELLIOTTCABLE> not even kidding
<ELLIOTTCABLE> acheived a periapsis of 2km
<ELLIOTTCABLE> before running out of RCS fuel
<ELLIOTTCABLE> … which didn't get me over the mountains. kaboom.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but was still insanely unlikely
<ELLIOTTCABLE> OH MY GOD IT REVERTED TO THE LAST SAVE STATE
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ERMAGERDDYING
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<purr> <isaacbw> meteor is what happens if you close your eyes and wish for unicorns and magic
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh my god purr
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<whitequark> relevant
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<purr> <alextgordon> I'd hate to see ELLIOTTCABLE orgasm
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<purr> <sephr> it was my sexy name
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<purr> <alexgordon> though not as much as Nuck beats Nuck
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<purr> <Nuck> my mangina
<prophile> anignam
<purr> <Nuck> I think there's actually a wat about my mangina. >_>
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<purr> <elliottcable> hr'd jolfing an O{S
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<purr> <devyn> wallhackers
<yorickpeterse> "Beautiful Singles - ­ in your ­ area - ­ are waiting ­ for ­ you! "
<yorickpeterse> WELL THAT'S A LIE ACCORDING TO OKCUPID
<joelteon> they're not??
<yorickpeterse> apparently :<
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<purr> <inimino> I am a perfectly good reason to be hot and bothered.
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<yorick> yorickpeterse: or they haven't logged in for months
<yorick> yorickpeterse: beautiful singles are probably waiting for you but not on okcupid
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: meh
* whitequark finds most people beautiful
<whitequark> I mean you're probably not looking like a model, but mostly because that photo is shopped to death
<whitequark> *shrug*
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I oscillate between seeing true beauty in almost everyone,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and seeing the horrid ugliness we all share.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I have trouble with scale.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> >.>
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: you just have low standards :P
* ELLIOTTCABLE goes back to reading the newest Charlie Stross novel
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: you will just die a 80-year-old virgin
<yorickpeterse> except I'm not a virgin
<yorickpeterse> joke's on you
<yorick> yorickpeterse: yes you've had gay sex many times?
<yorickpeterse> well my ex is now a dude so....I guess?
<yorickpeterse> balls don't touch == not gay
<yorick> there's a new one? damn I'm not even done with accelerando
<ELLIOTTCABLE> FUCK ME
<ELLIOTTCABLE> THAT SUDDEN REALIZATION,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> THAT THE NOVEL YOU ARE READING,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> is about bitcoin.
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: well, almost :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yorick: you've read it?
<yorick> but it came 50 years too soon
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm reading the pages right now that are talking about the cryptographically-signed slow-money system
<ELLIOTTCABLE> huh?
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: oh the new one :P
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: accelerando has some new money systems too :)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh, ew, nah
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm hugely not a fan of accelerando.
<yorickpeterse> ELLIOTTCABLE: are you sure you're not reading Bitcoin weekly?
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: what's it called?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's the sequel to saturn's children
<ELLIOTTCABLE> accelerando was just too … continuity-broken for me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> there was no continuous *narrative* that claimed attention. I disliked reading it, and it took several sittings seperated by months for me to claw through it.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> It's his worst, or second-worst, work.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Which is really disappointing, because everything else from him is *absolutely top-rate* fiction.
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: I can live with continuity-broken works :)
<yorick> it's just very very long
<ELLIOTTCABLE> There're authors who can do hard-science, deep-future fiction. he's not one of them.
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: are those authors mainly Greg Egan?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Most of his books do an excellent job, an *unparalleled* job, of near-future scifi
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but whenever he dips into deep-future his work goes to shit. /=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> If you want deep-future skillzrzrz, fuckin' read Alastair Reynolds. So much love.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Greg Egan? no idea, never heard of him. Worth my time?
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: the near-future part actually required some effort because I had to turn back the time 10 years and then forward 30
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (Also, I'm currently working through your Goodreads history :P)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Redshirts is up next, I'm excited
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: yes, you should read Greg Egan
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: okay so that's not my goodreads history :D
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wat
<ELLIOTTCABLE> aren't you the one who was doing the Hugo winners?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> or, Nebula, errrr, whatever
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whichever one I forget
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: I don't *think* so
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh. was it hat guy?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gkatsev?
<yorick> probably.
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: and yes, Greg Egan is def worth your time
<ELLIOTTCABLE> send it to me on goodreads
<ELLIOTTCABLE> conversely, you go read *all* of Stross's works.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Trust me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> There's a couple genres, but they're all extremely attractive, even the shit that I wouldn't normally care about.
<yorick> meh I don't even have you on goodreads https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/156785.Diaspora here
<alexgordon> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<alexgordon> fuck oop is so complicated
<yorick> alexgordon: what.
<purr> beep.
<alexgordon> classes, objects, interfaces, traits, categories, class methods, instance methods, inheritance, instance variables, class variables...
<alexgordon> what a mess
<yorick> alexgordon: yeah, go with prototypical OOP it's a whole lot easier
<alexgordon> yorick: nah
<yorick> or functional, but then you'd have monads :D
<alexgordon> yorick: because static typing is the only thing that keeps me sane
<alexgordon> JS is even more of a mess
<yorick> alexgordon: Self?
<alexgordon> nobody uses it :P
<yorick> lua?
<yorickpeterse> prototypical oo is fucking terrible
<alexgordon> yorick: better than JS, I'll give you that
<joelteon> lua is crippled
<alexgordon> the yoricks are in disagreement!
<yorick> yorickpeterse: ur mom is fucking terrible!
<yorickpeterse> OO in itself is pretty easy, you don't need interfaces/traits/categories//etc for it
<alexgordon> yorickpeterse: but what do you replace them with?
<yorickpeterse> nothing
<yorickpeterse> they are not strictly related to OO
<alexgordon> :|
<alexgordon> they exist for a reason
<yorick> alexgordon: yeah nobody uses those things except java has to because it doesn't do multiple inheritance
<yorickpeterse> Them existing doesn't mean it's a fundamental part of OO
<yorickpeterse> or even an important part
<yorick> alexgordon: they exist because java is stubborn
<yorickpeterse> You're mistaking OO with Java's fucked up OO system
<alexgordon> yorick: pretty sure most OOP languages have something equivalent to interfaces these days
<alexgordon> hell, they want to add them to C++
<joelteon> i thought java was the de facto OO implementation
<yorickpeterse> alexgordon: actually no
<whitequark> joelteon: smalltalk is proper OO
<yorickpeterse> interfaces are a big fucking joke if you'd ask me
<joelteon> oh, ok
<whitequark> java and C++ have something that people tend to call OO but it is not
<joelteon> well i can agree with smalltalk being the bee's knees
<yorick> joelteon: smalltalk is the best OO
<alexgordon> yorickpeterse: I dunno, the idea is useful. The implementation is poor
<alexgordon> anyway I didn't want to have a flame war
<yorickpeterse> alexgordon: the idea is broken by design
<whitequark> ruby, python ~ smalltalk
<joelteon> alexgordon: you're fat
<alexgordon> I was trying to figure out what overarching thing could replace all of these things
<yorick> alexgordon: prototypes could :D
<yorickpeterse> interfaces are replaced by traits/mixins basically
<whitequark> alexgordon: smalltalk's semantics can fit on a business card
<alexgordon> whitequark: ok but I don't care, I'm talking about java-style OO
<whitequark> alexgordon: who the fuck needs java-style oo
<alexgordon> whitequark: everybody, apparently
<whitequark> we need less of it, not more
<alexgordon> awjdoiawjd
<alexgordon> ASSUMING THE EXISTENCE of all these things, how can you simplify it
<yorickpeterse> have you been reading Java again?
<whitequark> get rid of those things.
<yorickpeterse> HAVE YOU?!?!?!1
* yorickpeterse slaps alexgordon around a bit with a large trout
<whitequark> alexgordon: take a look at rust
<alexgordon> whitequark: yeah I have... I don't like what I see in that department IMO
<whitequark> it wants to solve same class of problems as C++ without its braindeadness
<alexgordon> rust's OO is pretty bad
<joelteon> hey guys, so how do you do CSS sprites with high-DPI displays
<whitequark> alexgordon: what about rust's OO?
<joelteon> use percentages for the sizes?
<alexgordon> for one, it's nothing like smalltalk :P
<alexgordon> java is more like smalltalk than rust
<whitequark> it's quite similar actually
<whitequark> both employ structural typing to a certain degree
<yorickpeterse> hahaha java like smalltalk
<alexgordon> yorickpeterse: what? of course java is like smalltalk. It's based on objc
<whitequark> alexgordon: you don't have to "own" a data type to implement a method for it, that's one important point
<yorickpeterse> alexgordon: are you high?
<alexgordon> yorickpeterse: read about java's history
<alexgordon> yorickpeterse: java has message sending, introspection... don't think it has metaclasses but it's halfway there
<whitequark> alexgordon: go read it yourself. when java was designed, it was done as a C++ ripoff, essentially
<yorickpeterse> That doesn't make it similar to Smalltalk in terms of OO
<whitequark> metaclasses were added in java 4... I think
<yorickpeterse> or at least not more than Rust
<alexgordon> whitequark: C++ doesn't have message sending
<whitequark> definitely not 1
<whitequark> alexgordon: if you look at java without its introspection, it's just like C++ with rtti
<joelteon> ALSO, i need an image editor that can just put four images in the same file
<alexgordon> message sending is the most important feature of smalltalk, and it's what separates "smalltalk-like" languages from "algol/C++-like languages"
<joelteon> i don't have photoshop here
<joelteon> and i don't think preview can do that
<whitequark> alexgordon: most method calls are simple virtual calls, and the rest are dynamic_casts and virtual calls
<yorick> joelteon: gimp
<joelteon> gimp
<joelteon> gimp
<joelteon> ok
<whitequark> besides, reflection in java is rather obscure and inconvenient to use
<whitequark> not a first-class feature by any means
<yorickpeterse> Whoever started teaching Java as being a good OO language needs to be banned from computers for the next 100 years
<gkatsev> ELLIOTTCABLE: yes? I mentioned nebula.
<alexgordon> anyway I know I'm right so there's no need to argue this. read a book, lol
<purr> lol
<yorickpeterse> I think alex just surpassed Dijkstra in arrogance
<alexgordon> :D
<whitequark> no, Dijkstra was extremely clever for that
<alexgordon> Humility Considered Harmful
<yorickpeterse> well yeah, Dijkstra at least made sense
<whitequark> alexgordon just spews loads of crap. *shrug*
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<yorickpeterse> ヽ( ゚ヮ・)ノ
<whitequark> anyway if you're going to continue this "java OO is good" angle I'll just /ignore you
<alexgordon> whitequark: not spewing crap, I'm spewing facts
<alexgordon> whitequark: and I never said it was good
<yorickpeterse> you can stop trolling now
<alexgordon> ?
<whitequark> alexgordon: I've commented on those facts
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: yeah but he's right
<yorickpeterse> he read a book!
<alexgordon> I said that java is more like smalltalk's OO than rust's is
<alexgordon> if you disagree, then fine. it's an opinion. But I can't how anybody could disagree
<alexgordon> if they understand how the languages work
<yorick> yorickpeterse: we need to figure out who it was and show up at his bedroom window at night
<whitequark> well, neither of those features message sends as first-class feature
<whitequark> both of those can feature message sends as library feature
<alexgordon> java is built around message sends, however much they disguise it
<yorickpeterse> alexgordon: I'm willing to bet my cat whitequark has more understanding of this stuff than you do
<alexgordon> rust is not
<whitequark> alexgordon: define "message sends"
<whitequark> how exactly is java built around them?
<joelteon> glad to see GIMP is just as fucking crap as ever
<whitequark> java is built around virtual method calls
<joelteon> i guess that's as much as i can expect from an organization that provides a TLS library that accepts any certificate
<alexgordon> yorickpeterse: this isn't a pissing match
<whitequark> alexgordon: write me a method_missing in java
<whitequark> I state that method_missing is a required feature for a language to be considered built around message sends
<alexgordon> whitequark: a message send is an invocation of a method based on its name
<alexgordon> whitequark: as opposed to a vtable call where the method is not invoked by name
<yorick> joelteon: great unit tests they had there :P
<alexgordon> like in objc you have objc_msgSend(theobject, "theMethodName");
<yorick> joelteon: yeah gimp is pretty powerful on the inside but it's all in plugins or something
<whitequark> yes, exactly java has vtable calls. you cannot dispatch messages based on their name!
<alexgordon> yes you can!
<whitequark> how?
<whitequark> write me ruby's method_missing or smalltalk's doesNotUnderstand
<whitequark> or python's __get__ or whatever the fuck they have
<alexgordon> that's not what I'm talking about?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wut
<ELLIOTTCABLE> u talkin bt
<alexgordon> I'm talking about invoking a method based on its name, at runtime
<alexgordon> you're talking about doing something if the method doesn't exist. difference concepts
<whitequark> that's a required part of smalltalk-style OO though, hiding of local state and implementation
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: help
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ?
<whitequark> alexgordon: in java you must introspect the object to send it a method
<whitequark> alexgordon: in proper smalltalk-style OO you just send it a message and then it does whatever it likes
<whitequark> forward it with a proxy, or even emulate something based on name
<alexgordon> whitequark: yeah that's not what I'm talking about...
<whitequark> what you're describing is just a runtime feature that allows you to introspect vtables
<alexgordon> I dunno, I'm an objc programmer and this shit is really important in objc
<alexgordon> it makes the whole KVO/KVC thing work
<alexgordon> whitequark: like in ObjC you can do [foo valueForKey:@"foo"] and it will call the method named "foo" and return the result
<whitequark> I'm aware
<alexgordon> can't do that in C++
<alexgordon> and it really suffers
<whitequark> yeah, introspection is important, but introspection ≠ smalltalk-style OO
<alexgordon> it is for me
<whitequark> then you are wrong.
<alexgordon> I hardly ever use method_missing in objc (forwardInvocation:)
<alexgordon> so if that's what's required for smalltalk-OO, then there's not much difference is there?
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: how are your dogs? (do you still have dogs?)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wat
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fuzz
<whitequark> it's like saying "tg is pretty much defined on (-∞;+∞), there's not much difference between its real range and that"
<alexgordon> whitequark: you know that I only care about practicalities. if a feature never gets used in a language, then it's irrelevant to discussion
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (dog ∞, cat ∞)
<whitequark> I will 100% agree that your opinion that C++ OO + introspection gives you almost everything smalltalk-style OO does
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dogs are negative like electrons, defined to be inverted
<whitequark> but that doesn't make them the same.
<alexgordon> does to me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> cats are considered as positive even thhough they suck the love-energy out of a system
<ELLIOTTCABLE> we need a cryptoproglang, distributed and anonymous. MAY THE BEST SYNTAX WIN
<joelteon> GIMP is pap
<ELLIOTTCABLE> GIMP smear
<joelteon> i selected all, copied, pasted
<joelteon> and the resulting image is different
<whitequark> either properly use terms, or go discuss it with someone else.
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: are you drunk?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> nope on cheerios
<alexgordon> whitequark: I never wanted to discuss it in the first place. the yoricks brought it on :|
<whitequark> lol.
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fuck the yoricks
<ELLIOTTCABLE> rage against the yoricks
<alexgordon> I wanted to discuss replacements for java-style interfaces and classes and all that shit
<yorickpeterse> alexgordon: then don't bring it up
<ELLIOTTCABLE> stick it to the yoricks
<alexgordon> I DIDN"T
<alexgordon> -_-
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: we need an #adultcable
<yorickpeterse> <alex> HAI GAIS I DON'T GET OO WHAT ARE REPLACEMENTS FOR THIS CRAP
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oopie poopie poopie
<alexgordon> I miss micah :(
<whitequark> alexgordon: but you're 12
<yorickpeterse> <alex> PLZ DON DISCUSS ANYTHING
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh shush you guys
<alexgordon> whitequark: old enough to be responsible for my crimes
<whitequark> not old enough to discuss proglangs!
<alexgordon> HA
<whitequark> you need to be like
<alexgordon> <+ELLIOTTCABLE> rage against the yoricks
<whitequark> 35
<whitequark> yes, about right
<yorick> I've done nothing!
<yorick> but I still support yorickpeterse
<yorick> and also whitequark
<alexgordon> whitequark: how old was guido when he invented python?
<alexgordon> hell, matz is still about 14 or so
<whitequark> lol what
<yorick> alexgordon: 35
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 35?
<whitequark> guido was about 36
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 45, and living in basement
<ELLIOTTCABLE> durr
<whitequark> matz was 28
<alexgordon> matz like proglangs, micah likes proglangs... matz is mormon. micah is mormon... HOLY SHIT MATZ == MICAH
<yorick> checks out
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: lol, you hadn't figured that out yet?
<purr> lol
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: ah so that's why you chickened out on Foundry
* yorickpeterse runs
<alexgordon> we actually have fewer pictures of matz than we do of snowden
<ELLIOTTCABLE> haven't you noticed his hatred for anything Ruby-style-dynamic? he's clearly a repentant ex-proglang-creator, crushed by his failures and fixated on making up for his mistakes
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: plus he started mtgox
<ELLIOTTCABLE> what, no
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: does he really?
<alexgordon> so that's why he's missing this week: bankruptcy proceedings
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that dude's a different dude, all pasty and weird and fat and as unto like a ghost
<whitequark> I think only alexgordon loved C++ bureaucracy here
<alexgordon> whitequark: micah likes haskell except for the monads which he hates
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon's got an attachment to C++ he can't let go of, but he's of sound mind otherwise
<ELLIOTTCABLE> disagrees with me on damned near everything one can disagree, but still *sane*
<ELLIOTTCABLE> he's my favourite foil.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: it's not C++ I love, it's clang
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I stab people in the crotch with him.
<alexgordon> I hated C++ with a passion in the GCC era
<ELLIOTTCABLE> punny pun puns
<alexgordon> it's only since clang became c++11 feature complete that I like it
<whitequark> well clang is cool
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dogs are furry, and smelly, and excellent
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: he's not sane I think
<ELLIOTTCABLE> there's one on my feet
<alexgordon> seriously, fuck this shit:
<whitequark> but loving clang is like, loving MAD because it prevents a fullscale nuclear war
<ELLIOTTCABLE> no don't
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: fuck dogs they suck and bite people
<ELLIOTTCABLE> noooooo
<whitequark> dogs are too high-maintenance
<alexgordon> for (std::vector<Foo>::iterator it = vec.begin(), et = vec.end(); it != et; ++it) { }
<alexgordon> FUCK IT
* alexgordon hugs C++11
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<yorick> but it's true!
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<whitequark> lol
<purr> lol
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<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: best pet ever
<alexgordon> yorick: if your dog is sucking you, you're doing it wrong. Or right.
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<whitequark> fluorescent bacteria in a petri dish
<alexgordon> yorick: if your dog is sucking you, you're doing it wrong. Or right.
<yorick> dogs suck lol
<yorickpeterse> wat
<whitequark> just toss them sugar
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fluorescent DOGS in a petri dish!
<alexgordon> whitequark: like a horse?
<yorick> alexgordon: I think peanut butter works
<ELLIOTTCABLE> brb fluorescent dogs
<yorickpeterse> yorick: you're not supposed to put peanut butter there
<ELLIOTTCABLE> new plan new plan
<whitequark> ELLIOTTCABLE: you can actually do that
<whitequark> like, you'd need about $10k of used equipment on ebay
<ELLIOTTCABLE> “DON'T PUT PEANUT BUTTER THERE”
<ELLIOTTCABLE> my kink-life in a nutshell
<ELLIOTTCABLE> well done
<whitequark> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but really fluorescent sheltie
<whitequark> there are fluorescent pigs
<ELLIOTTCABLE> if I ever go quietly insane and actually buy a water-going craft, it's going to be named that
<whitequark> for reals
<ELLIOTTCABLE> or the Peanut Butter Sub.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (Play on words. ;)
<whitequark> cats or dogs with GFP isn't really that hard
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yes it is, it'd have to be the fur, not the skin
<ELLIOTTCABLE> way more difficult
<whitequark> hm
<whitequark> think you'd could tie its expression to hair follicles
<whitequark> a bit more difficult, yes
<yorick> ELLIOTTCABLE: but still cats are way more predictable
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Autoflourescent fur would be difficult or impossible. Isn't hair *dead*, anyway?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and now I'm sad >:
<whitequark> autofluorescent, no
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: isn't there paint for that?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> research of hair led to photos of pretty girl's-hair and am now feeling lonely
<whitequark> no energy source.
<alexgordon> has anyone tried dipping a cat in that hydrophobic stuff?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol alexgordon as if I've never considered painting my dogs with flourescent paint before. noob.
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> no, we're talking about a genetically modified autoflourescent dog.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> levitating cat?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> also, “#elliottcable drugs” thanks, whoever set that
<whitequark> me :p
<alexgordon> holy shit I googled "levitating frog" and got this http://magyarnarancs.hu/data/cikk/7/73/50/cikk_77350/levitating_frog_by_annpars-d32olr3.jpg
<whitequark> the fuck
<alexgordon> -34 frog
<whitequark> also it is incorrect, the frog is paramagnetic
<whitequark> meaning it should levitate between poles
<purr> alexgordon: Here. <http://bit.ly/1g1sT7u> [NSFW]
<purr> alexgordon: ... if you had any sense, you wouldn't have asked.
<whitequark> why does it have human dick
<alexgordon> HAHA
<whitequark> frogs have cloacas
<whitequark> meh
<alexgordon> whitequark: something something your mom
<whitequark> alexgordon: yeah?
<alexgordon> -34 whitequark's mom
<alexgordon> -34 putin
<alexgordon> damn the bot is slow
<purr> alexgordon: Here. <http://bit.ly/1g1t6aN> [NSFW]
<purr> alexgordon: ... if you had any sense, you wouldn't have asked.
<alexgordon> HAHA
<alexgordon> oh god
<alexgordon> -34 tymoshenko
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<alexgordon> hm, a class method is just an instance method without a self pointer
<alexgordon> or a self pointer that's ignored
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