ELLIOTTCABLE changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a _better_ cult
<devyn> maybe I'll just buy a 15" MacBook Pro
<devyn> I really just need something with a lot of space that I can take to work
<devyn> I mean screen space
<devyn> I'm so used to having 2x 1920x1080 at home
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<eligrey> suicide bombers prefer mx blues
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<devyn> eligrey: good thing I have mx browns then
<devyn> poop color. they won't come near me.
<eligrey> you need a satisfying clicking feel when you press the detonator
<eligrey> otherwise how will you know
<devyn> well yeah obviously
<devyn> and if the detonator doesn't work
<devyn> you can just keep clicking it
<devyn> it's theraputic
<eligrey> http://i.imgur.com/81R8qOq.jpg made me think of it
<eligrey> though obviously that's a remote detonator
<eligrey> mx blue for testing
<eligrey> and yeah i notice now that that's probably not even an mx switch
<eligrey> looks pretty similar though
<devyn> haha yeah it does
<devyn> that's funny because cherry switches are made in the USA
<devyn> that's just a phone-activated IED though; I don't think it's for a suicide bomber
<devyn> and it looks like it was a dud
<purr> <elliottcable> My tests are too programmatic. I might have to write meta-tests to test my tests' functionality.
<vigs> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ I have done that, purr
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<purr> <alexgordon> When in salmon's vagina are you going to finish Pause?
<jesusabdullah> I jerked off a salmon once
<jesusabdullah> okay, fine, multiple salmon
<jesusabdullah> It's how you sex them
<devyn> multiple salmen*
<devyn> use the right plural man
<jesusabdullah> if you stroke where their fishnuts are and they splort, you know they're male
<alexgord_> jesusabdullah: I've never sexed a salmon
<jesusabdullah> well
<jesusabdullah> if you ever get a chance to hold a salmon and it's not obviously female
<jesusabdullah> give it a shot
<jesusabdullah> squirt fish jizz all over your friends!
<devyn> hhahaha
<jesusabdullah> you can almost always tell. salmon with eggs are round whereas male salmon are narrow and flat
<alexgord_> jesusabdullah: ever seen a fish's O face?
<jesusabdullah> it looks a lot like their normal face
<jesusabdullah> then again they were gasping for air (so to speak) so, like, yeah
<devyn> haha
<alexgord_> LOL
<purr> LOL
<alexgord_> devyn: looks disgusting
<alexgord_> seriously wtf is that stuff
<devyn> it probably is
<devyn> but
<devyn> it's a butt
<devyn> it's like milk and jello
<alexgord_> *bum
<devyn> and stuff
<devyn> lol
<devyn> OH GOD THAT
<devyn> oh god
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> hi, all
<vigs> howdy ELLIOTTCABLE
<ELLIOTTCABLE> vigs: :P
<vigs> what's up?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 'sup
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gonna GW2 a bi
<ELLIOTTCABLE> … bit
<ELLIOTTCABLE> derp
* ELLIOTTCABLE shrug
<vigs> ah nice
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> … derp
<glowcoil> devyn: you need the sounds
<glowcoil> devyn: on those food candy things
<glowcoil> the sounds are the best part
<ELLIOTTCABLE> glowcoil: wat.
<purr> beep.
<purr> <judofyr> elliottcable: what's up with sephr and OMFG, or whatever it was called again?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> OMFG <'3
<devyn> hahahhaa
<devyn> ΩF:∅
<ELLIOTTCABLE> devyn: come gw2
<ELLIOTTCABLE> devyn: coem come
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mumble? anybody? >:
<devyn> working :c
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<gq> ELLIOTTCABLE: i'm here i'm queer i'm friendly wut wut wut wut wut
<gq> HEY HEY HEY WHAT'S WHAT'S COOLER THAN BEING COOL
<gq> ICE
<gq> COLD
<gq> ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT
<ELLIOTTCABLE> come play guild wars with me >:
<gq> oh my god i'm so tired lol
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> or, y'know, anything
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so bored
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so so bored
* gq climbs into ELLIOTTCABLE's hair and makes a nest
<ELLIOTTCABLE> omg
<ELLIOTTCABLE> best plan
<gq> nesssst.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -nessssst @ gq
<purr> gq: * gq climbs into ELLIOTTCABLE's hair and makes a nest
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gq: http://ell.io/iNPNK
<gq> -nest
<purr> gq: * gq climbs into ELLIOTTCABLE's hair and makes a nest
<gq> sexcellent.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gq: hi
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gq: mine craft or something? I r so brd
<ELLIOTTCABLE> >3
<gq> ELLIOTTCABLE: can't, i'm on the wrong computer & i'm falling asleep at the keys as it is
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<gq> -nest @ ELLIOTTCABLE
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: * gq climbs into ELLIOTTCABLE's hair and makes a nest
<ELLIOTTCABLE> poops
<gq> rude.
<devyn> TIL that voiceless vowels are a thing
<devyn> 大成功 (だいせいこう): n. huge success
<devyn> literally.
<devyn> HUGE SUCCESS
<devyn> no I mean that's actually what's in my dictionary
<devyn> o.o
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> not rude
<ELLIOTTCABLE> was poopin
<glowcoil> #poopin
<glowcoil> ELLIOTTCABLE: you said tickets are more expensive the closer up but tickets for in a week are like $300
* glowcoil shrugs
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's a holiday weekend
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hence price jump
<ELLIOTTCABLE> also, it's *far* from deterministic :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> saw a really neat article where somebody watched and graphed various situations' prices
<ELLIOTTCABLE> for instance, it *goes up* if you keep checking on the same airline's website.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 'cuz they want you to worry that the tickets are selling out; it makes you more likely to buy
<glowcoil> oh ok
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and strangely enough, for some time-periods, it's actually *more expensive* earlier, and bottoms out a couple weeks before the flight
<ELLIOTTCABLE> weird shit.
<glowcoil> that's fucked
<ELLIOTTCABLE> no kidding.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> google sez dat
<ELLIOTTCABLE> don't think that was the original one /=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> watevs
<glowcoil> ugh fingers sore from guitar playing
<ELLIOTTCABLE> glowcoil: you play the guitar?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> bet that getsya all the chicks :P
<glowcoil> lol
<purr> lol
<glowcoil> yep played for 7-8 yrs now
<ELLIOTTCABLE> damn
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's … pretty cool.
<glowcoil> thanks
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so, I just spend a couple hours on Mumble with an old friend.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and it was … really … disturbing, eye-opening.
<glowcoil> how so?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> this particular friend is pretty annoying to deal with, in a lot of situations. He's younger, a bit; kind of like my little brother.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (given the sibling confusion in here recently, no, this one isn't genetically related to me; but he's a part of the category of people who “might-as-well be.”)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I have an … issue … with jealousy/bitterness, and a negative sort of self-hurting derision that I can't control.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> known it for ages. hate it, makes *my* life shitty.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I apologize to people about it occasionally, to; I'm not *oblivious* to the fact that it makes those around me unhappy occasionally, too …
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but dealing with him tonight, has made it clearer to me how *much* it must suck for people around me.
<glowcoil> :(
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> He's definitely been giving a really strong “Any time you disagree with me about thinking something is stupid, you're clearly wrong and a terrible person.” vibe, tonight
<ELLIOTTCABLE> couple different things. bitcoin, feminism, what sorts of cocktails/liquors are delicious,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> i don't remember, a couple others.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh, mmorpgs, too. whatever. besides the point.
* glowcoil nods
<ELLIOTTCABLE> When other people talk about smoking pot, I just think they're *so goddamn stupid*. Terrible people. I can't *control* the deep, visceral derision I feel for them.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Ditto, ‘extreme sports.’ Skateboarding, most of all, continuing on down the line through snowboarding, bungee jumping …
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and tonight, I wonder how much other people, who *actually like* those things that they choose to do, feel like I'm a pretentious dickbag when they're around me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> actually, not quite. I don't give two shits if someone thinks I'm a pretentious dickbag. lol that's a given.
<purr> lol
<glowcoil> i've been realizing lately i do the same thing quite ab it
<ELLIOTTCABLE> more … wonder how much other people whom I *otherwise like*, am *otherwise friends with*, people I want to see happy … wonder how much they're hurt, or exhausted by, dealing with me, and my prejudices, on a daily basis.
<glowcoil> i'm a huge elitist inside my head
<ELLIOTTCABLE> glowcoil: I don't think I mean quite the same thing. At least for me, there's a *huge* internal difference between simple elitism, and this <derision, and jealousy>-feels.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> the key difference being, I guess, I can turn the former off, if I need to.
<glowcoil> ELLIOTTCABLE: well i can't turn it off is what i mean
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I may think FPS games are dumb. But if I want to be friends with an FPSer, I can sit down, stop thinking it's dumb for a while, and talk about FPS games with him. Or try his FPS game.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ah, okay
<glowcoil> it prevents me from being nice to people or making friends or getting close to people sometimes
<ELLIOTTCABLE> what sorts of stuff does it bite you on? /=
<glowcoil> idk i mean lately i've been listening to (hip hop|metal)
<glowcoil> and then if someone doesn't like those as a blanket
<glowcoil> like overall
<purr\Paws> [Paws.js] ELLIOTTCABLE pushed 4 new commits to copy-reactor+: https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/Paws.js/compare/82358db6a3d6...caf61ff78765
<purr\Paws> Paws.js/copy-reactor+ e811a16 elliottcable: + pretty sure advance() must have been broken in upaws. fixing immediately-nested expressions.
<purr\Paws> Paws.js/copy-reactor+ 009424f elliottcable: + fixing expression-recognizing
<purr\Paws> Paws.js/copy-reactor+ 36d5801 elliottcable: + copying the old advance(), mostly verbatim
<glowcoil> then yknow
<glowcoil> that's one example
<glowcoil> another is just like
<glowcoil> if someone is like
<glowcoil> doesn't genuinely enjoy math, or programming, or some thinkingy thing
<glowcoil> like if someone majored in it but is glad they're done majoring or osmething
<glowcoil> it's hard to respect them
<glowcoil> or if someone doesn't compulsively make art or something
<glowcoil> like, i look down on people who don't like create shit or love math or something liek that, and i can't turn it off and it's stupid because like
<ELLIOTTCABLE> for me, all of the things that are really troublesome, are the ones with some sort of tinge of jealousy down below them.
<glowcoil> objectively i realize that it's dumb to base your valuing of people on wha they create
<ELLIOTTCABLE> some primal desire to be one of the cool kids who can do badass snowboarding tricks, despite knowing they're dumb.
<glowcoil> because in the end, it's like relationships, you have to not base your happiness on an eventual relationship because that won't work
<glowcoil> ELLIOTTCABLE: hm yeah i think that's different from me
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wishing I had the balls/laid-back-ness to smoke pot
<ELLIOTTCABLE> the most similar one for me, is for EDM music, like
<glowcoil> in the same way, you can't base your happiness on eventually creating good art because
<glowcoil> it won't make you happy in the end anyway
<ELLIOTTCABLE> really repetitive stuff, the most ‘techno’ of it.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> even then though, like, those people don't respect the more interesting creative stuff,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but at the same time there's a lot of jealousy, because that person can go to a normal club and can probably dance and probably gets laid and is happy forever and gets married and their heads explode in stars and then there's an 8-bit success theme song.
<glowcoil> not sure what you mean?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> for me *every single one of these problems* is an inscrutable hybrid of “they're dumb and worthless for doing it” and “I feel dumb and worthless for not doing it.”
<glowcoil> ok
<glowcoil> for me there's none of the second, mostly just the first
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I just, it's the most insane, internally-contradictory thing, in my head, and I can *see it being contradictory*, and that drives logical-fix-all-of-the-brain-problems-elliott NUTTY.
* ELLIOTTCABLE nods
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yeah, valuing people for their *objective* value is dumb, but obvious
<ELLIOTTCABLE> like, hard-not-to-do.
<glowcoil> basically if someone doesn't feel desperate to achieve something
<ELLIOTTCABLE> the hardest thing in life, sometimes, seems to be remembering/managing-to judge people *subjectively*. On their value to you, instead of their value to the world.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I have that problem to.
<glowcoil> i find it hard to respect/empathize with them on a deep level
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Like, a *really nice girl who could be a great friend to me*, but whom I forget to even bother trying out liking, because she's a pothead, and doesn't create anything of value, and listens to empty pop music.
<glowcoil> yeah
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yepyepyep
<ELLIOTTCABLE> completely different thing from what I was talking about earlier, but know that exact feel /=
<glowcoil> even if someone like, 60% overlaps with my music taste, and we have deep conversations about movies
<ELLIOTTCABLE> you can't go around in the real world expecting to meet programmers or musicians.
<glowcoil> and have similar senses of humor
<ELLIOTTCABLE> most people are, just, people.
<glowcoil> but they don't like make things
<glowcoil> or they're just like, going to get some business job somewhere
<glowcoil> then i find it hard to respect them and ti's fucking dumb
<ELLIOTTCABLE> <glowcoil> some business job somewhere
<glowcoil> #imtalkingaboutsomeonespecificbutwontgointodetails
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol!
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ugh.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> listened to this kid for hours.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> didn't kick him off mumble, or, like, curse him out, or obviously ignore him,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> tried hard to, listen and respond and whatever
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but my responses were all so empty 'cuz he was annoying me so much /=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and I felt *really bad*, because it just, *reeked*, of how I probably seem to other people.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> some hurt-making shit right there.
<glowcoil> :(
<glowcoil> i know exactly what you mean
<glowcoil> ugh i'm feeling so pessimistic
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yeh?
<glowcoil> so i have some really good friends that i'm not attracted to at all but that i have a really deep connection with and see the world the same way as me
<glowcoil> and then i've only dated people that i don't have that kind of connection with
<glowcoil> and i'm scared that if i were attracted to someone and had that connection one of those two things would fuck with the other anyway
<glowcoil> know what i mean
<glowcoil> at all?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> idk ‘scared’
<ELLIOTTCABLE> for me it's, I dunno, a basic fact of life /=
<glowcoil> i guess not scared, more
<glowcoil> suspect
<glowcoil> ok yeah
<glowcoil> UGH i hate everything at all
<ELLIOTTCABLE> for me, all of the history of relationships is … well … best-friends.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Like, 80% of my relationships were *really close friendships* first.
<glowcoil> oh ok
<ELLIOTTCABLE> And then once you get relationship-intimate, there's just, a lot of, veils lifted.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> People who I thought were really cool or really similar in certain ways, even when I was *super* close to them in general …
<ELLIOTTCABLE> those feels somehow change substantially when you go from seeing each other four times a week, to seeing each other every day when you wake up and then again after work, I guess
<ELLIOTTCABLE> maybe I've just had bad luck with relationships. probably.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but definitely very pessimistic in that way:
<ELLIOTTCABLE> “Time for me to stop trying to date people who seem interesting, smart, or similar to me …
<glowcoil> uggggghhhh
<ELLIOTTCABLE> … and just date the hottest girl/guy who will say yes. /=”
<glowcoil> i agree a lot
<glowcoil> :(((((
<glowcoil> my admittedly not tons of experience entirely agrees
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Chelsea wasn't the first to leave me feeling this way, but I think that whole mess burned me pretty damn bad, in that particular way.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> That's the grounding of all my fucked-up feels as detailed above, probably, if I'm to be completely honest with myself.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Went in expecting “well-designed websites and M Machine”, because that's what we shared/talked about/whatever as super-close friends.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Came out, having discovered that there's a hell of a lot more snowboarding/Kaskade, and a hell of a lot less of what I was hoping for.
<glowcoil> <ELLIOTTCABLE> “well-designed websites and M Machine”
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I guess that's the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
<glowcoil> right i think i'm giving up on relationships
<glowcoil> thing is i'm not interested in casual sex
<glowcoil> very hard for me to find attraction w/o emotional connection
<ELLIOTTCABLE> People change. And more often, your *perception* of them changes. “True love” is when either/both happen, and it continues to not matter.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> </sap>
<glowcoil> but at the same time relationships on top of emotional connection ruins it
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh, dude, not casual sex
<glowcoil> lol
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> nonono totes get it
<ELLIOTTCABLE> go for the *casual puppy love*.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Like, just, *accept* that we fall deeply in infatuation quickly, 'cuz chemicals
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and go binge out on those chemicals.
<glowcoil> well the thing is i fall in infatuation for 30min then hate someone
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Don't look for The One, and don't look for The One Night.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Look for the One Month. That's what I'mma do, at least for now.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 30mins? :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> you're too fast :P
<glowcoil> lolol or a day
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wat do
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wat do wat do wat do
<ELLIOTTCABLE> here's a thought:
<ELLIOTTCABLE> in my experience (actually, had an extensive conversation with Brian about this earlier tonight.),
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yes.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> close-feels makes for the best sex in the world. It can take <x> quality sex, and super-charge it into *spectacular* sex.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but, that doesn't mean *no sex without feels is good*. At least, IME. It just means that it's gotta be some pretty goddamn good casual sex, to live up to even the most mediocre feels-sex.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> tl;dr maybe you just haven't found the right casual sex :D
<glowcoil> haha
<glowcoil> well exgf and i were arguably not very close/had a kind of destructive emotional dynamic
<glowcoil> so i guess that's an awful example
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yeah uck
<ELLIOTTCABLE> My solution to your problem:
<ELLIOTTCABLE> slut it up.
<glowcoil> hahaha
<ELLIOTTCABLE> actually, reviewing the last ten conversations I've had with people about anything that isn't computer-related,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that would appear to be my solution to *all* problems.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> >,>
<glowcoil> lolol
<purr> lolol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> no really, holy shit
<glowcoil> like i want to date someone i can: make music with, or make complementary assets to videos/games/something
<ELLIOTTCABLE> aforementioned pseudo-little-brother, little sister, Chelsea, Chelsea's best friend, Cherish, and south-carolina-sex-interest-girl
<glowcoil> to make things with
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I've had a conversation with every single one of them within the past month where I've ended up suggesting they have more sex as a solution to their (admittedly usually sex or romance related) problems.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> maybe instead of someone to date, you just need someone to be really close with. /=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's what I miss the most.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> a Jenna.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> or, I suppose, a before-we-dated Chelsea.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I've never had a relationship that was as awesome and close and, well, *useful*, as my closest friendships have been. Maybe I'm bad at relationships? /=
<glowcoil> yeah i agree with my limited shitty experiencd
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that said:
<glowcoil> i have really close friends to talk about math and make music and games with
<ELLIOTTCABLE> IME, artist-type girls are kinky and awesome
<ELLIOTTCABLE> in every sort of way
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so, maybe you'll just crack it lucky there :D
<glowcoil> lul
<glowcoil> welllllllll
<glowcoil> it's horrifically late
<glowcoil> not feeling any better about this topic than i was beefore :p
<glowcoil> but i need to slep
<glowcoil> night <3
<ELLIOTTCABLE> kk
<ELLIOTTCABLE> nn
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oo
<ELLIOTTCABLE> last one's an infinity
<ELLIOTTCABLE> for infinity-hearts
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (dawww i'm so adorbs)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -learn languages = ‘What languages should you learn?’ The answer: more of them! Try `-object-oriented`, `-functional`, and `-low-level` for some suggestions. (If you really want to stretch your mind, try `-paradigms` <3)
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: Learned `languages`.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -languages
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: ‘What languages should you learn?’ The answer: more of them! Try `-object-oriented`, `-functional`, and `-low-level` for some suggestions. (If you really want to stretch your mind, try `-paradigms` <3)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -learn object-oriented = Ruby <https://ruby-lang.org> is an excellent first language (and, for that matter, excellent all-around.) JavaScript is a heavyweight in the modern world, allows you to control browsers, and is especially excellent when paired with Node.js <http://nodejs.org>. Lua <http://lua.org> and Python are other popular options.
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: Learned `object-oriented`.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -learn paradigms So you want to be an unusually well-rounded programmer! Try learning one of each of these: a LISP <http://schemers.org> | a logic language <http://swi-prolog.org> | something concatenative <http://factorcode.org> | a hardware-description language <http://wikipedi.as/VHDL>
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: SyntaxError: Syntax is `learn ( [alias] foo = bar | foo =~ s/expression/replace/gi )`.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -learn paradigms = So you want to be an unusually well-rounded programmer! Try learning one of each of these: a LISP <http://schemers.org> | a logic language <http://swi-prolog.org> | something concatenative <http://factorcode.org> | a hardware-description language <http://wikipedi.as/VHDL>
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: Learned `paradigms`.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> brb wikipedi.as
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<purr> <gkatsev> eboy: for a sec I thought you were purr
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<purr\GH> [wikipedi.as] ELLIOTTCABLE opened issue #1: Pretty landing-page https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/wikipedi.as/issues/1
<purr\GH> [wikipedi.as] ELLIOTTCABLE opened issue #2: Disambiguate! https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/wikipedi.as/issues/2
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<purr\GH> wikipedi.as/Master 13ef74f elliottcable: + handling the root case, temporarily
<purr\GH> wikipedi.as/Master 5464e0a elliottcable: + switching to promise-style
<purr\GH> wikipedi.as/Master ae66d05 elliottcable: + switching to `connect`.
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> I do truly hate everybody. >:
<joelteon> me too
<purr> <alexgordon> DIPSY IS HOT
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh gods alex
<ELLIOTTCABLE> disturbed
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<bradleymeck> yar
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol, I haven't done this conf thing in a while, save RealtimeConf, which barely counts,
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> presumably there'll be after-hours events or something, but: you want to meet up, some time?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> i'll be dragging glowcoil along, probably, or if he can't make it, nexxy
<ELLIOTTCABLE> also, who's your S.O., if that's a compfortable topic? Anybody I might be acquainted with? (=
<bradleymeck> I’ll be around, there is plenty of time to do stuff after but lots of parties at night / time at the pool
<ELLIOTTCABLE> are you doing one of the node* events, bots/copters/whatever?
<bradleymeck> you wouldn’t know her, goes by okamera and is pretty quiet on the social scene
<bradleymeck> nodeboats
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ah, damn
<ELLIOTTCABLE> rockets'ing.
<bradleymeck> I want to see if we can put 2/3 together to get a drone carrier
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh mah god.
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> I think I was just inspired by a little bit too much KSP in my life this past month. also, gkatsev told me to.
<bradleymeck> haha, rockets will be fun, I just want to see what people do with them
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I have *no idea* what that involves.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I've been to one nodebots thing before, but I was only there for a short-ish period, social reasons. Didn't really participate.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> So this'll be interesting.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I have no clue how one integrates hobby rockets and embedded-dev. :P
<bradleymeck> last time node bots was like 10 hours long
<ELLIOTTCABLE> damn-well should be :D
<bradleymeck> well we modified a nerf gun to shoot down drones last year
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> ♪ Outsider, Uppermost
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE is listening to “Outsider”, by Uppermost
<ELLIOTTCABLE> eligrey: Hey! You!
<bradleymeck> but rockets can do some things like fire second stage or move fins
<ELLIOTTCABLE> eligrey: GW2 sometime today. Got another friend starting right now, too. We can all putz around the starting areas together. (=
<eligrey> ok later
<gkatsev> bradleymeck: are you going to be at jsconf?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> eligrey: assuming … I ever sleep …
<bradleymeck> I wonder if they are going to have cameras on the rockets
<ELLIOTTCABLE> if not, I'll just strap my iPhone to one.
<bradleymeck> gkatsev: I’ll be chilling around mostly but yea
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's a good plan, right?
<gkatsev> ELLIOTTCABLE: I want to do *all* the events. But the noderockets just sounds so awesome.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gkatsev: now, I want to co-opt bradley's idea.
<gkatsev> ELLIOTTCABLE: what was his idea?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> NODEHYBRIDHOVERBOATSPACEPLANES
<gkatsev> the nerf guns?
<gkatsev> oh
<ELLIOTTCABLE> nodespaceplanes for short.
<gkatsev> haha
<bradleymeck> still I am unsure on how to simplify controls for moving multiple boats -> swapping to drone mode
<ELLIOTTCABLE> just go around to all the events, showing off. “My spaceplane is better than your boat! It can achieve LEO!”
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol.
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> invited bradleymeck,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 12:11 PM <@nexxy> bradleymeck, it's a trap
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 12:14 PM <chiper> lord is it ever.
<gkatsev> lol
<gkatsev> it was true, though
<ELLIOTTCABLE> anyway. bradleymeck: @ELLIOTTCABLE, twatter. 'll figure something out as it draws near. <3
<purr\GH> [wikipedi.as] ELLIOTTCABLE pushed 1 new commit to Master: https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/wikipedi.as/commit/efa922f5ba6addbb651cd7d9849eafece1d290a0
<purr\GH> wikipedi.as/Master efa922f elliottcable: + improving erroring. What a mess that was.
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<eligrey> damn you ELLIOTTCABLE
<eligrey> i want that domain
<ELLIOTTCABLE> eligrey: ?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm actually doing something useful with it.
* eligrey begrudgingly stars ELLIOTTCABLE/wikipedi.as
<ELLIOTTCABLE> a simple little perma-URL generator that searches multiple wikipedias, selects one, and then disambiguates if necessary
<ELLIOTTCABLE> using it as an exercise to learn some idiomatic tools in the Node space prior to JSconf
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Connect, the prevailing ‘promises’ (lolno. lies.) specification, etc
<purr> lolno
<ELLIOTTCABLE> also, it should be run-able on your own server
<eligrey> btw are you using the word wikipedia as generic wiki? or are you talking about the wikimedia family?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Wikimedia.
* eligrey registers wikimedi.as
<ELLIOTTCABLE> specifically, the Wikipedia languages with more than 1,000,000 articles.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> going to leave this up and easy-to-install so anybody can have http://sep.hr/Butts style links, if they please.
<eligrey> oh actually your domain makes more sense then :/
* ELLIOTTCABLE laughs
<ELLIOTTCABLE> if you want to maintain it after I write it, that's fine by me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ELLIOTTCABLE / OFTN collab? :P
<eligrey> re: different language wikipedias, not sep.hr
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm mildly annoyed that I need to *use* the domain to publicize its existence after I write it; because I'd really prefer to use my own software on my own domain, like everything else.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ell.io/[[Butts]] perhaps
<ELLIOTTCABLE> bah even irc cloud doesn't detect that
<eligrey> woah .hr is free?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> you *didn't notice that*!?
<eligrey> i was expecting a $100/yr fee or something crazy
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I always assumed you had a good reason
<eligrey> please don't be registered already sep.hr
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lolol
<purr> lolol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> good luck finding a resident of Croatia
<ELLIOTTCABLE> not sharing mine with you.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Mumble?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> don't really feel like talking, but I'll get on. I believe Brian's already on there.
<eligrey> i'll get on mumble once you share your croatian contact
<eligrey> so far google translate has helped me get through dns.hr but i'm stuck on
<eligrey> OIB korisnika: [text field]
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's where you put your gmail password
<eligrey> no idea what VAT-related info i need to put there
<eligrey> leaving blank gives me something that translates to Enter the correct VAT
<eligrey> i didn't think eu people had to pay vat on domains
<eligrey> i was able to find out that sep.hr isn't registered and i think i can register without a croation address for $135/yr
<ELLIOTTCABLE> awesome :D
<eligrey> tbh i probably won't use it enough to justify the cost
<eligrey> i don't even use sephr.com for anything other than an eligrey.com redirect
<eligrey> i probably would use eligr.ey though
<eligrey> yay for Ekraysia existing
<eligrey> ouch $3000/yr
<eligrey> nvm
<eligrey> also > Presence in Ekraysia required
<ELLIOTTCABLE> eligrey: lololol
<purr> lololol
<eligrey> once i become a vr billionaire i'll just buy http://ai/ for a one-time fee of [anguilla gdp]
<eligrey> which = $100 mil
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ok lol
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Are you given rights to the root entry when you bribe-buy the existence of a TLD? is that how that works?
<eligrey> i don't think you can buy a tld from someone else
<eligrey> which is why i specifically stated http://ai/
<eligrey> which would just mean a permanent A and AAAA record on AI
<eligrey> especially since i'm not a country and if i was a country my name isn't anguilla
<eligrey> so i'd get the tld taken from me if i somehow bought it instead of those 2 dns records
<eligrey> ELLIOTTCABLE: if http://ai/ doesn't load for you try http://ai./
<ELLIOTTCABLE> er, what
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh, I understand
<ELLIOTTCABLE> thought you meant the gTLD registration thing
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -learn sephr = sephr isn't a country and if he was a country his name isn't anguilla
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: Learned `sephr`.
<eligrey> :(
* eligrey applies for countryship
<eligrey> on my way to the UN
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> derp
<ELLIOTTCABLE> -test
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: Error: Failure while printing test status.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hm.
<purr\GH> [wikipedi.as] ELLIOTTCABLE opened issue #3: Be nice; support maxlag https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/wikipedi.as/issues/3
<purr\GH> [wikipedi.as] ELLIOTTCABLE opened issue #4: Send User-Agent string https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/wikipedi.as/issues/4
<alexgordon> programming languages are HARD
<alexgordon> like, really hard
<alexgordon> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: lol duh
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> but so so fun
<ELLIOTTCABLE> rite
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: can I come and hang out with you and make programming languages?
<alexgordon> fuck life you know, I just want to make languages
* alexgordon has turned into micah
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<alexgordon> see
<ELLIOTTCABLE> LOL
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: yes, you can.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> unfortunately, I'm not currently making programming languages.
<alexgordon> :(
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm currently doing something very alexgordon-y.
<alexgordon> being awesome?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol.
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> nope
<ELLIOTTCABLE> writing http://wikipedi.as/
<ELLIOTTCABLE> as a ‘quick’ one-off
<ELLIOTTCABLE> “a simple little perma-URL generator that searches multiple wikipedias, selects one, and then disambiguates if necessary”
<gkatsev> what is wikipedi.as, btw?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> “using it as an exercise to learn some idiomatic tools in the Node space prior to JSconf”
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gkatsev: -^
<ELLIOTTCABLE> “going to leave this up and easy-to-install so anybody can have http://sep.hr/Butts style links, if they please.”
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: reason I feel like you, is I'm doing a lot of scraping/collating code right now.
<alexgordon> ah
<ELLIOTTCABLE> things I never thought I'd have to do: wade through Google Translate's mis-translations of the word “disambiguation” in every language and character set known to mankind.
<gkatsev> ah, cool
<ELLIOTTCABLE> not to mention, having to deal with the fact that EVERY WIKIPEDIA SITE EVER does things COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY FROM ALL THE OTHERS
<gkatsev> I'm terrible and coming up with interesting projects to test out new tools/techs.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> you'd think there'd be some sort of overall structural similarity to the wikipedias in different languages. NOPE.
<gkatsev> And I'm not as cool as John Carmack who can rewrite wolfenstein 3d in a new programming language to try that out.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gkatsev: this one's been on my mind for a while. My little domain has quite a few nifty URL-related tricks up its sleeves, but *fact links* have been on my radar for quite a while.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Problem is, it's one of the harder ones to do. Not just not-a-simple-redirect, but if you want *meaningful, useful* links, it's gotta trudge through a bunch of heuristics to figure out how to navigate disambiguations.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and, of course, the URLs generated need to be permanent, so there's gotta be some sort of persistence there.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gkatsev: in all reality, I generally learn new languages by trying to implement *my* language in the new language. >,>
<ELLIOTTCABLE> an interpreter covers a lot of bases: data-types, concurrency, input/output, some basic performance stuff, constructing large abstractions, testing/analysis …
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I bet writing a lisp in a language would be a pretty excellent primer in any such given language.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> just a thought.
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> eligrey: I'm gonna play some, if you'er around
<ELLIOTTCABLE> pretty exhausted offm y face
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<glowcoil> 10:04 <ELLIOTTCABLE> oo
<glowcoil> 10:04 <ELLIOTTCABLE> last one's an infinity
<glowcoil> 10:04 <ELLIOTTCABLE> for infinity-hearts
<glowcoil> alexgordon: it was your fault i quit this time
<glowcoil> :p
<alexgordon> ?
<glowcoil> alexgordon: when i'm unattached and get highlighted my client quits for some reason
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> lol
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