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<mhoney> rneese, is the odroid a lot faster than the cubietruck?
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<rneese> yes
<rneese> sorry went out to dinner and hung with a friend
<rneese> sorry
<rneese> cant be here 24/7
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<rneese> its a quadcore 1.7 ghz with 2 gig of ram
<rneese> vs a dualcore 1ghz
<rneese> my progression pi >>beagleboneblack >> cubieboard2 >> odroid-x2 >> odroid >> u3 >> soon the odroid xu3
<rneese> my bbblack is my home pbx
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<raffahacks> Open a very small cubieboard forum for italian users, does anyone want to help or test it?
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<utente> raffahacks, PRESENTE!
<raffahacks> ?
<utente> raffahacks, i suppore u are italian
<utente> no?
<utente> suppose*
<raffahacks> Sì, sono italiano :)
<utente> e allora, io sono PRESENTE! per fare le prove, era qeullo il senso :)
<utente> andiamo in privato?
<raffahacks> Ok
<utente> ok
<utente> raffahacks, im waiting u in provate talk
<raffahacks> Url cubieboard-it.url.ph
<Flashtek> anyone from the UK in here
<Flashtek> ?
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<utente> buZz, i downloaded your cubieboard case but i see only the lower part
<buZz> ? ah, channel hop
<buZz> utente: look in the bottom of the file
<utente> aaahh ! ok
<buZz> ;)
<utente> btw, i am not able animore to zoom-dezoom using + and -, i amn forcedd to use weel of mouse. how to do using keyboard?
<buZz> no idea, ask in #openscad
<utente> buZz, ahhhh i posted in whon channel, ahahahah
<utente> wrong*
<utente> buZz, i like you code, is elegant .-)
<buZz> ;)
<SquirrelCZECH_> hi folks
<SquirrelCZECH_> any tips where to buy DVK521 in europe?
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, what is DVK521?
<utente> oh
<utente> a new nice expansion board is caming in next weeks.. stay tuned!
<SquirrelCZECH_> cubieboard1 ?
<utente> both for CB1 and CB2 .-)
<SquirrelCZECH_> lcd included?
<utente> no.
<SquirrelCZECH_> nah
<SquirrelCZECH_> 107 usd to get DVK521 :/
<utente> wow 107USD...
<utente> is not DVK521 to be expencive, is CB to be cheap :-)
<SquirrelCZECH_> but, there is touchscreen :/
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, i dont know deep DVW521... maybe caould exixt "light"! version withe less device?
<utente> so it should be cheaper
<SquirrelCZECH_> maybe?
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<utente> if i were they, i propose also a "light" version: same PCB but will dells device on board, same logic of raspberrt A and B model.
<utente> dells=less
* SquirrelCZECH_ found different heaven
<SquirrelCZECH_> 15 touch panel?
<SquirrelCZECH_> 15 lcd screen?
<SquirrelCZECH_> WOW :D
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<buZz> eh
<buZz> doesnt cubie already have a touchscreen interface
<buZz> ah it has i2c chip for capacitive
<buZz> still too expensive
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<buZz> oh
<buZz> doesnt even have the chip, lol
<buZz> ahhhh, it includes anything you can connect to it, right
<buZz> man
<buZz> i have seen ~10 sites talk about this dvk board and wanting to sell them
<buZz> but
<buZz> -none- of them even says the resolution of the lcd O_o
* buZz just assumes its 800x480
<SquirrelCZECH_> eyeah
<SquirrelCZECH_> but 800x400 on 7 inches, I can live with that somehow
<SquirrelCZECH_> wow
<SquirrelCZECH_> 110$usd 15inch + touch
<SquirrelCZECH_> 1366x768 ofc.
<buZz> yes
<buZz> its way too expensive
<buZz> recommended not buy
<buZz> :D
<SquirrelCZECH_> 15 is overkill
* SquirrelCZECH_ would like 7 inches display for his cubie
<SquirrelCZECH_> anyway, back do dvk521
<SquirrelCZECH_> I sort of like it
<SquirrelCZECH_> but to be honest I recently thought about switching to raspberry pies
<buZz> cubieboard too fast?
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah
<SquirrelCZECH_> for 3d printer where I am using it now, it's perfect
<buZz> :)
<SquirrelCZECH_> but my future goal is automatization and robotics
<SquirrelCZECH_> -> 800Mhz singlecore is just enough
<buZz> well
<buZz> would love a proper h-bridge shield for cubie1/2
<SquirrelCZECH_> for robotics?
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<SquirrelCZECH_> well
<SquirrelCZECH_> it depends on robot you want to use
<SquirrelCZECH_> but I tend to connect things like that via arduino to cubieboard, instead of cubieaboard itself o:)
<buZz> sure
<buZz> i just dont want to add extra cpus
<SquirrelCZECH_> well, yeah
<SquirrelCZECH_> but, thing is that I let arduino do only easy tasks
<buZz> uhuh
<buZz> i want to make a autonomous car
<SquirrelCZECH_> really easy, more or less only listens cubieboard what to do
<buZz> i have done it before
<buZz> but want to do one that is smarter
<SquirrelCZECH_> AND most of the "safety things" are on arduino
* SquirrelCZECH_ feels safer this way
<SquirrelCZECH_> because, arduino got simple code, it's seasy to have safety things right
<SquirrelCZECH_> buZz: is that so?
<SquirrelCZECH_> buZz: buy old rc car than
<SquirrelCZECH_> there are ESC/Servos
<buZz> let me show you my old one
<SquirrelCZECH_> so you just need to control them with PWM
<SquirrelCZECH_> which is easy
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
<buZz> just one arduino
<buZz> and using the realtek decoder chip to power the motors
<SquirrelCZECH_> rc car with 1:9 gear box
<SquirrelCZECH_> arduino controlling the car
<SquirrelCZECH_> and old laptop on top :)
<SquirrelCZECH_> wirelessly controlled over my normal laptop
<SquirrelCZECH_> and later version got functional webcam
<SquirrelCZECH_> so I was able to drive into different rooms and see what's there
<buZz> my new one will be some ARM board, and kinect
<buZz> and wifi
<buZz> but will make its own choices
<buZz> use wifi to talk to 'smart brain' somewhere externally
<buZz> to interprete the pointclouds and make nice 3D maps
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah
<SquirrelCZECH_> that's what I plan to do too
<SquirrelCZECH_> raspberry pi as base
<SquirrelCZECH_> buZz: I remember that I stop on "sensors part"
<SquirrelCZECH_> because, I coudln't figure out anything cheap and working :/
<buZz> SquirrelCZECH_: and use ROS ?
<SquirrelCZECH_> maybe?
<SquirrelCZECH_> dunno
<SquirrelCZECH_> buZz: thing is that I tend to buy electronics
<SquirrelCZECH_> and develop software
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
<buZz> ever looked at ROS?
<buZz> very advanced stuff
<SquirrelCZECH_> I found it once
<SquirrelCZECH_> never force myself to check it
* SquirrelCZECH_ opened tutorial, looks complicated :/
<buZz> it is
<buZz> but
<buZz> its also -very- advanced :D
* SquirrelCZECH_ likes simple stuff
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
* buZz likes complex stuff
<SquirrelCZECH_> well
<SquirrelCZECH_> advanced doesn't mean complex
<SquirrelCZECH_> I am in favour of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle
<buZz> i'm not
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<buZz> i dont want to live in a world where everybody is a programmer but all code is for IQ <100
<utente> here a new expansio board for CB http://www.imagehousing.com/image/1202371
<SquirrelCZECH_> point is
<SquirrelCZECH_> that to make something so simple, that IQ < 100 can understand it
<SquirrelCZECH_> is hardcore task :)
<SquirrelCZECH_> which is reason I m not afraid to follow it
<buZz> utente: lacks documentation
<SquirrelCZECH_> because, users could be dumb as hell
<utente> 2wifi, 2lan, 4usb.
<buZz> SquirrelCZECH_: yeah i dont care about any user that is dumber than me
<SquirrelCZECH_> but it's still hard for the ones that creates things to make it simple
<buZz> cause i am only making stuff for myself
<buZz> utente: connected over ...
<SquirrelCZECH_> boring :/
<SquirrelCZECH_> utente: 2wifi ?
<utente> yres
<SquirrelCZECH_> hmm
<buZz> ?
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah, I could use that
<SquirrelCZECH_> utente: price?
<buZz> how are they connected
<utente> yes, 2 wifi
<utente> connection via usb
<buZz> wtf
<buZz> 1 usb2.0 connection for 2x 100mbit ethernet and 2x 54mbit wifi?
<utente> wait.
<buZz> you have got to be kidding :P
<buZz> latency will be through the roof
<utente> the 2 usb of CB controll the 2usb od expansion board. expansion board allow 2wifi (wlan0 wlan1) and 2LAN (eth1 eth2) plus other 4 usb.
<buZz> yeah, no thanks :D
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<utente> itested lan connection via expasnion: on CB1 it does 7.3Mb/s in ssh (moving a lipe of 800M) and 7.1MB/s using CB2
<utente> lipe=file
<buZz> nice, and what speed are you getting when using -all- interfaces at the same time?
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, prifce still not defined
<utente> buZz, that test sitll not done. give me time :-)
<SquirrelCZECH_> if
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<SquirrelCZECH_> enitre things you named are connected only via usb to cubieboard
<SquirrelCZECH_> -> not usable :P
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, it is unsable oenough to me .-)
<utente> there are 2 usb to control, so each isb controll one wifi, one lan ad 2 usb
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah, and?
<SquirrelCZECH_> usb is just not fas enough
<SquirrelCZECH_> and what's more important
<SquirrelCZECH_> with USB-Hub I get better setup than your board
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<utente> using a PC (so more power) both LAN run at 10MB/a
<SquirrelCZECH_> what
<SquirrelCZECH_> utente: there is no power connector I suppose?
<buZz> also, using USB a -lot- like this, will cause a high CPU load
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah
<utente> yes, loon low right of board (il pictre us emply) buth there will be miniUSB to goive power to board. aniway, 2 usb is enoyug to power it.
<buZz> utente: i think SquirrelCZECH_ was asking about powering the cubieboard from the shield
<utente> initial wersion of board was runnable wit only one usb (500mA)
<SquirrelCZECH_> 2usb IS ENOUGH?
<SquirrelCZECH_> are you kidding?
<utente> yes.
<utente> no.
<SquirrelCZECH_> :D :D :D
<utente> let me tell you.
<buZz> :P
<SquirrelCZECH_> well
<SquirrelCZECH_> so wifi actually means 1m range wifi
<SquirrelCZECH_> etc..
<SquirrelCZECH_> nah :/
<SquirrelCZECH_> another boring board :/
<buZz> SquirrelCZECH_: but you can have two of them!
<SquirrelCZECH_> useless
<buZz> whats the point of two wifi next to each other btw?
<utente> te test i did is: une cboard+myboard+hd2.5'' all powered by a PSU 5V at 2.25A
<SquirrelCZECH_> utente: you know, when I last time waned to have decent wifi signal
<SquirrelCZECH_> I have to use external powered usb hub to pwoer my usb wifi adapter
<SquirrelCZECH_> so it was worth a shit
<utente> buZz, ther are near in that alfa version, final aore not like that.
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
<buZz> utente: they are within 30cm
<SquirrelCZECH_> buZz: I wanted similar setup
<buZz> utente: i mean, what is the usecase you have in your mind?
<SquirrelCZECH_> one wifi connects to router
<buZz> why does it hold advantage?
<SquirrelCZECH_> second one creates AP
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, u are not asket to believe me now, we will talk afert you will see the video wi will do. if als then u will not believe.. not my business :-)
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
<buZz> believe? :P
<buZz> i dont think opinions fall under beliefs
<buZz> but sure
<utente> buZz, posisble ue: mesh network, Access point, wifi-wired transator, firewall, DMZ, parental controll, file server, etc.
<SquirrelCZECH_> anyway
* SquirrelCZECH_ si short of USB ports on his cubie.... again
<buZz> but there is nothing cubie specific on it
<buZz> it can work just as well for raspi
<buZz> or PC
<buZz> or PS3
<buZz> or xbox360
<utente> my fist use wiull be: Dua Access Point. one wifi for kids (no facebook, no adult content, etc) one wifi for me (free access to internet)
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, i develober a leggel "connection" board with 4 usb male connector that plug CB on myboard.
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, i developed a plugged "connection" board with 4 usb male connector that plug CB on myboard.
<SquirrelCZECH_> he?
* SquirrelCZECH_ is not sure if hi understands
<SquirrelCZECH_> but nevermind
<utente> image a easy PCB w2iuth 2 usb plug designeg like and "U"
<utente> SquirrelCZECH_, sorry im not able to explaiiwell--- lent me publish the picture. wait.
* SquirrelCZECH_ found hub, doesn't have free USB A - USB B cable
<SquirrelCZECH_> just fu this
<buZz> wtf
<buZz> usb male2male
<buZz> STOP MAKING NONSTANDARD CABLES, FFS
<utente> male-male usb plug exist since long time. i invent nothing of new
* buZz boycots
<joph> of course this exists, but you shouldn't use it ;)
<joph> use micro usb
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<SquirrelCZECH_> nah nah
<SquirrelCZECH_> ok
<SquirrelCZECH_> I should clean
<SquirrelCZECH_> my table
<buZz> joph +1
<SquirrelCZECH_> <Nephirus> uplne mi to pripomnelo jednu knizku
<SquirrelCZECH_> <Nephirus> kde vyrabeli vzducholode tak, ze obratili cloveka naruby a nafoukli ho
<SquirrelCZECH_> eeee
<SquirrelCZECH_> nope
<SquirrelCZECH_> that shoudln't be here
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah, this one
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
<buZz> nice prusa i3 :)
<buZz> YAY CZECH DESIGN
<buZz> :P
<SquirrelCZECH_> thanks
<SquirrelCZECH_> and I also want to remove czech citienzship from prusa
<SquirrelCZECH_> O:)
<buZz> lol
<buZz> why is that?
* SquirrelCZECH_ just doesn't like that guy
<buZz> too wise to be czech? :D
<SquirrelCZECH_> ...
<SquirrelCZECH_> czech are wise!
<buZz> he's just typical reprap celebraty
<buZz> celebrity*
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah "celebrity" is the right term
<SquirrelCZECH_> buZz: I've seen a lot of cczech shows with him
<SquirrelCZECH_> always speaking more about himself than reprap
<SquirrelCZECH_> etc etc etc
<SquirrelCZECH_> not really something I like, that's it
<buZz> he helped me build my printer, back in 2012
<buZz> hardly spoke about himself, just practical stuff
<SquirrelCZECH_> hmm
<SquirrelCZECH_> well, I had prusa nozzle from him
<utente> the fatty cow is the more nicest piece on table .-)
<SquirrelCZECH_> and I just hate things that kicked me several times
<buZz> :)
<buZz> yeah i use proven hotends
<buZz> thus jhead and arcol
<buZz> US and hungarian
<SquirrelCZECH_> e3d is proven too ?
<buZz> e3d v5
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah
<SquirrelCZECH_> that's what I've got
<SquirrelCZECH_> awesome
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
<buZz> e3d v6 has proven high issues :P
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah?
<buZz> well
<buZz> in #reprap a lot of ppl have issues with it
<buZz> i use the hivemind to base decisions on
<SquirrelCZECH_> well
* SquirrelCZECH_ really likes the new block with heater and thermistor
<SquirrelCZECH_> well
<buZz> well well well
<SquirrelCZECH_> cubieboard now officially is not fast enough for me
<SquirrelCZECH_> but it's only cubieboard1
<buZz> yeah
<buZz> i want cubie8
<SquirrelCZECH_> :)
<buZz> but
<buZz> no sata ;(
<buZz> ffs
<buZz> and just 2GB ram
* SquirrelCZECH_ wants sata
<buZz> -not- good
<SquirrelCZECH_> have to store the webcam videos
<buZz> A20 supports up to 2GB ram
<buZz> A80 supports up to 8GB
<utente> move to radxarock, SquirrelCZECH_
<buZz> why doesnt cubie8 have 8GB ram
<buZz> radxa has sata? many cores? >2GB ram?
<SquirrelCZECH_> 2GB Exactly
<buZz> 4 cores, no bigLittle
<SquirrelCZECH_> but for me 2gb is enough
<buZz> just 2GB again
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah
<buZz> and no sata
<SquirrelCZECH_> Cubieboard2 should do the trick
<utente> buZz, 2Gram. 4core (28nm, veri fresh at 1.4Ghz) but no sata.
<SquirrelCZECH_> og
<SquirrelCZECH_> oh
<buZz> yeah, pointless for me
<SquirrelCZECH_> we are compilling
<SquirrelCZECH_> so that's the reason I've got 100% CPU Usage
<SquirrelCZECH_> I see
<utente> i have one, very nice board.
<buZz> i also dont care about which method they use for making the chip
<utente> buZz, nm geometry is veri important, i.X6 is 4core loke rockchip but cant go over 996mhz and nned big passove hardsink
<SquirrelCZECH_> YEAH
<buZz> yeah thats fine
<SquirrelCZECH_> maybe I should use the cubie with heatsink
<SquirrelCZECH_> the one I am using now doesn;t have one
<utente> 28nm of radxarock is fast and cold at 1.4ghz
<SquirrelCZECH_> btw: ne raspberry looks fine
<SquirrelCZECH_> cubieboard2 got just faster cpu?
<utente> old ARMv6 core
<utente> no, the same btradcom
<SquirrelCZECH_> yeah, but fast enough for me
<SquirrelCZECH_> but I like 4 usb :)
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<SquirrelCZECH_> hmm, germany, cubie2 for 83 usd
<utente> the sod stil hoave one usb, all i/o must go on that
<SquirrelCZECH_> let's compare it to miniatx board
<utente> the soc stil have one usb, all i/o must go on that
<SquirrelCZECH_> utente: I can live with that
<SquirrelCZECH_> for the price
<SquirrelCZECH_> for my target usage
<utente> good 4 u
<SquirrelCZECH_> oh
<SquirrelCZECH_> I can get nice mini itx board for 74 &
<SquirrelCZECH_> $
<SquirrelCZECH_> (integrated cpu)
<SquirrelCZECH_> much faster
<SquirrelCZECH_> many usb
<buZz> they now make mini-itx boards with 8core atoms
<utente> what about size and power comsumption?
<SquirrelCZECH_> size doesn't matter so much
<buZz> mini-itx already has size in the name
<SquirrelCZECH_> power comsuption is worse, true
<utente> first uou say raspberry2 is enough then u look for mini-itx.. i dont understand what is your target
<SquirrelCZECH_> ?
<SquirrelCZECH_> I am not talking about one usage
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<SquirrelCZECH_> mini-itx -> 3D Printer controller
<utente> ah u talk in general?
<SquirrelCZECH_> (much more stuff around it)
<SquirrelCZECH_> raspberry pi -> robotics
<utente> ah ok now is clear
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<SquirrelCZECH_> well
<SquirrelCZECH_> now it's only not fast enough in spikes
<SquirrelCZECH_> hmmm, I suppose I can make it work with "nice"
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<SquirrelCZECH_> well, this will work
<SquirrelCZECH_> but I do not want to end with only one webcam on 640x480
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<rneese> the cubie and beagle bone for robitcs
<rneese> the odroid for pbx/desktop/terminal
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<BlueFreakLP> Hey, aomeone there?
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<BlueFreakLP> .
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<BlueFreakLP1> Hello
<BlueFreakLP1> I have flashed Android 4.2 v1.0.3 to my Cubieboard and Formated Nand. Now it wont Boot, any ideas? I have flashed with livestuite on Mac OS x
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