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<q3k> jn__: totally not jealous of owning a pa-risc box
<jn__> q3k: linux doesn't support my gfx card in non-text mode, though. i have to boot into real unix for that
<q3k> jn__: I would just run openbsd on it and hostname it 'get-to-the-chppa'
<q3k> jn__: and care for it and use it to run annoying CTF tasks
<jn__> :D
<cr1901_modern> rqou: https://imgur.com/x7GgcpM
<rqou> yeah, my "legacy" pc is just a random pentium D
<rqou> it's "legacy" because it has IDE, FDD, LPT, and conventional PCI
<rqou> (no ISA anymore)
<rqou> probably one of the last pcs with these interfaces
<qu1j0t3> /b 3
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<rqou> azonenberg: did you know this can happen?
<cr1901_modern> azonenberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aIhkUDBhi4 This might be realistic enough videogame music that you enjoy it
<rqou> wait, amiga music has emulation inaccuracy? i thought amiga music is all sampled?
<cr1901_modern> Dunno, I know very little about Paula
<rqou> i always thought it's just a fancy DMA engine
<rqou> also, the L/R channels are interesting
<qu1j0t3> rqou: lol, i saw that tweet. i should have thought of pasting it in here
<rqou> i never use safety goggles when soldering and haven't encountered anything like that
<rqou> although i also don't wear contacts
<pie__> i think the "chemicals behind contatcs" thing comes up relatively often
<qu1j0t3> they seem to be an essential part of this anecdote, although i think safety glasses seem prudent
<pie__> but i wouldnt necessarily have thought about it wrt soldering fumes
<rqou> i do remember cautions about contacts in chemistry lab, but i never would have thought about it for soldering
<qu1j0t3> hence the tweet, i guess
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<pie__> qu1j0t3, what i want to know is how you unlug it without tripping a breaker
<pie__> "very carefully"
<pie__> oh wait didnt notice the switch
<pie__> i suppose that also raises the problem of how it was plugged in, also solved by the switch
<pie__> "Reminds me of the story of Why Oxygen Hoses Screw On Counterclockwise: because you want it to be very, very, very hard for someone to connect the breathe-this-air hose to the jet-fuel hose. One wonders how long it took for them to adopt this static type system."
<pie__> wait what
<pie__> my disk is full. why is my disk full.
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<azonenberg> rqou: o_O
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* awygle has soldered in contacts lots of times
<azonenberg> cr1901_modern: it's decent, but i much prefer actual recorded audio to samples/synth
<pie_> i think i got tmux to hang
<pie_> what the fuck is wrong with me
<pie_> actually...did i run out of sockets or something? even tmux new-session hangs
<pie_> actually something weird is going on because i cant even start a new tmux session wtf >_<
<pie_> well i lost another tmux session
<pie_> i hate everything
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<lain> >.<
<pie_> going into computers was a mistake
<rqou> you can always change majors :P
<pie_> * study for my actual major :P
<rqou> azonenberg: still awake?
<azonenberg> rqou: yeah
<azonenberg> for a few more mins at least
<rqou> at this point with a working blinky, what do you think should be next for coolrunner-ii work?
<rqou> flush out more bugs? fix yosys?
<rqou> more refactoring?
<azonenberg> Test and debug more first
<azonenberg> What's your toolchain look like?
<azonenberg> is it HDL input?
<azonenberg> or still hard coded netlists? or what
<rqou> HDL into yosys into the backend
<azonenberg> So you have hdl to bit for a blinky working
<rqou> yeah, a 500 Hz blinky
<azonenberg> OK
<rqou> more than that and the chip runs out of pterms
<azonenberg> in that case i would say, next step is to work on improving synthesis support and try to figure out a way to extract xor's
<azonenberg> Then fix bugs as you find them
<azonenberg> With a toolchain at this level of maturity, you dont really have to LOOK for bugs
<azonenberg> just use it, and they'll jump out at you
<cr1901_modern> azonenberg: Ahh, I thought it sounded sufficiently "real" that it would surpass your disdain for samples/synth (also good morning)
<azonenberg> Lol more like good night
<azonenberg> i'm gonna grab noms then hit the hay
<rqou> azonenberg: "Even though the internal names are currently not
<rqou> can recover some of them after synthesis. This command is based
<rqou> dress
<rqou> stored, command
<rqou> on equivalence checking of the final and the original network, and transferring the names
<rqou> from the original network to the functionally identical nodes in the final network. "
<rqou> might be useful for your persistent complaints that abc makes useless netnames
<azonenberg> rqou: o_O
<azonenberg> innnteresting
<azonenberg> is that an abc command or a yosys command?
<rqou> an abc command
<rqou> so i don't know if yosys will read the resulting net names or not
<rqou> arrgh one day i'm going to send abc a giant PR entitled "delete all commented out code"
<azonenberg> lool
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<awygle> Goooood morning everyone
<kc8apf> awygle: I've started the boilerplate for the framework we discussed on Friday. https://github.com/kc8apf/gaffe/tree/7series_resources
<kc8apf> nothing of merit there yet but that's where to look
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<awygle> kc8apf: awesome. have you written down any of your thoughts on what it'll look like? that'd be helpful for those looking to contribute
<kc8apf> not yet. I need to work through a few details on how passes work.
<kc8apf> I'm hoping to have the resource concept fleshed out tonight.
<kc8apf> I'll see about writing up a very high-level architecture overview
<awygle> cool, let me know if I can help
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