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<rqou> lol
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<awygle> ah, my old friend "fell asleep on the couch and now not tired enough to go to bed"
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<rqou> O_o rust on ARM supports a heap!
<rqou> (if you want one)
<rqou> it's basically perfect at this point
<whitequark> a what?
<sorear> :p
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<awygle> rqou: what do you mean "supports a heap"?
<awygle> liballoc?
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<rqou> awygle: i was referring to alloc_cortex_m and #[global_allocator]
<rqou> without having to go through the "malloc" and "free" symbols
<awygle> ah, that's cool
<awygle> semi-related, i really don't like rustdoc :(
<rqou> yeah, i hate it too
<awygle> i feel bad because obviously a lot of people work really hard on it, and a lot of people absolutely love it, but to me it has the doxygen problem of making people think they don't need overarching documentation
<rqou> interestingly, japaric's attempt at embedded-hal might be the first time i've seen a hal where my first reaction isn't "no, please go away, no hals"
<rqou> the only problem i see so far is again copypasta across device families
<rqou> i've been trying to do https://github.com/rqou/stm32-unified-crate but maintaining this takes a ton of effort
<rqou> maybe stm32-unified-hal next?
<awygle> lol
<rqou> btw LICENSE in that repo is "fun"
<rqou> (stm32-unified-crate)
<awygle> DISCLAIMER: the author is not a lawyer
<awygle> at the risk of starting a flame war i am surprised you cared enough about licenses to write that but still use zero-clause bsd
<rqou> why?
<rqou> i specifically want to not make it even _more_ complicated
<rqou> and for STM32 parts it actually matters thanks to the existence of GigaDevice
<awygle> not in that case specifically (although i might have gone with MIT since you already have that from svd2rust)
<awygle> but i have an impression (erroneous?) that that's your "standard license"
<awygle> and i tend to think of 0BSD and CC0 as being very close to a "fail state" of licensing, i.e. "i don't care about licensing, make it go away"
<awygle> (the actual fail state is WTFPL and other "i don't want to think about licensing so i've accidentally made this impossible to use" "licenses")
<rqou> i usually use 0BSD for stuff i don't particularly care about getting credit for and 2-clause BSD otherwise
<rqou> I'll also use 0BSD if I feel that making downstream deal with licensing would waste a ton of time (like in this case)
<awygle> that's fair enough i suppose
<rqou> also, afaik rob landley specifically designed 0BSD such that people who don't want to think about licenses can choose this and not end up with code that's impossible to use
<awygle> oh yeah i'm not lumping 0bsd and cc0 in with wtfpl
<rqou> but in general imho copyright sucks
<rqou> thanks micky mouse
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<awygle> mithro: quick sanity check - i'm reading the lutinit fuzzer from prjxray, and it looks like you set up the project with the "template" blocks, synth, place, route, then write an "intermediate" file which still allows you to change the INIT params without re-running P&R, is that right?
<mithro> awygle: that is a digshadow or Clifford question
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<digshadow> awygle: I think that sounds right
<digshadow> awygle: if you also want to comment some of the tests better, I would definiteliy be interested in PRs for that sort of thing
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<rqou> offtopic: apparently the upcoming windoze update is going to be the "spring creators update"
<rqou> brilliant name /s
<rqou> so it's fall first and then spring like academia and not like what "normal people" might expect
<rqou> and if you live where everything is upside down like mithro then you're just screwed entirely
<azonenberg> version numbers anyone??
<rqou> i mean, it has those too
<azonenberg> seriously whats with these fancy names
<azonenberg> Call it "windows 9 sp2" or "windows 9.2"
<rqou> windows 11
<rqou> :P
<azonenberg> when i hear fancy names like that it reminds me of TF2
<qu1j0t3> i always wondered who to blame for Spring
<azonenberg> "coming soon... windows Pyro Update"
<rqou> Windows ⑨ Extra Bullets Edition
<rqou> the Strongest windows ever
<rqou> azonenberg: i saw someone joking somewhere that MS should just use dog breeds
<rqou> it's not like they will ever run out, unlike big cats :P
<azonenberg> lolol
<genii> "Project Pekinese"
<rqou> Shiba Inu edition
<rqou> wow, such Windows
<awygle> Windows Labradoodle - A Crime Against God
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