apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.1; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p643: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on https://gist.github.com
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<xfrd> hello
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<xfrd> CQ CQ, anybody out there?
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<havenwood> xfrd: hi
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<xfrd> How's it goin
<havenwood> xfrd: *almost* Friday
<xfrd> Ohh for sure!
<xfrd> how do you direct chat like that?
<havenwood> xfrd: If you start typing a name and hit `tab` your client will probably autocomplete.
<xfrd> aiight
<xfrd> havenwood: Test
<xfrd> oh..lol guess not lemme google-fu one sec
<havenwood> xfrd: seemed to work to me
<xfrd> oh it did? I guess I didn't get any syntax highlighting on my end
<xfrd> havenwood: so I assumed it did not work. Cool to know though. thanks
<xfrd> can you do multiple people? Like: "first_sn, second_sn: 'text'"?
<havenwood> yup
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<xfrd> havenwood: ohh awesome
<xfrd> hevenwood: ok now you are yellow
<xfrd> havenwood: ok now you are yellow
<havenwood> xfrd: whether someone alerts or highlights when their nick is mentioned is up to them though
<havenwood> xfrd: it's pretty normal for folk to setup notification when a tool or name is mentioned as well
<xfrd> havenwood: oh nice
<xfrd> havenwood: oh also...up arrow works like on terminal
<xfrd> havenwood: sick!
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<xfrd> havenwood: I'm using limechat on OSX. Is there a terminal only client I can run via terminal?
<xfrd> havenwood: That would help a tonne when using iTerm
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<havenwood> xfrd: LimeChat is nice. You could install the irssi package with Homebrew.
<xfrd> havenwood: Oh word, I will check it out. Homebrew is what's up
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<xfrd> havenwood: I will do that tomorrow I think. Config files are going to be no fun for me right now
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<xfrd> goodnight everyone. time for me to pass out. 73's
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<tendency2snap> hello world!
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<yorickpeterse> weee, large part of the province without power
<yorickpeterse> also morning
* yorickpeterse is stuck in a train
<surrounder> ouch
<yorickpeterse> at least the train has (crappy) wifi and power
<yorickpeterse> but it's funny seeing all these companies complain on twitter about their website being down
<surrounder> hehehe
<yorickpeterse> something something should've purchased a decent UPS
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<surrounder> yeah no issues with our dc in haarlem luckily
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<yorickpeterse> I'd be worried if a decent DC didn't have a UPS
<surrounder> heh true
<yorickpeterse> hm, apparently the power is back on at the office
<yorickpeterse> if only I could actually get there
<surrounder> yorickpeterse: hehe yeah friend of mine works @ sanoma; he can go home but no trains yet
<yorickpeterse> Yeah, they're all stuck :P
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<surrounder> hehehe
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<yorickpeterse> lol, NOS website not responding either
<surrounder> and lol @ nos
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<ddfreyne> Maybe GitHub is secretly hosted in the Netherlands!
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<yorickpeterse> yay finally at the office
<yorickpeterse> what otherwise takes ~1 hour in total took about 4
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<apeiros> sounds like you had a fun ride
<djellemah> yorickpeterse: what happened
<djellemah> ?
<yorickpeterse> power outage in large parts of the province
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: that's the joke, there was no ride
<apeiros> large enough that it made it in the radio here
<yorickpeterse> Was stuck on a station for a few hours, had to order a cab eventually
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: did you feel powerless? *scnr*
<yorickpeterse> Yeah, I had a complete mental shutdown
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<djellemah> yorickpeterse: yeah, but why was there a power outage? Bad weather? Over here, our excuse is bad government :-|
<surrounder> government is always bad
<djellemah> lol, you have no idea.
<karma_> In Stockholm our commuters train signaling system is from the early Jura period so the excuse is always "Severe signaling problem", like this morning. Does not affect me though.
<yorickpeterse> djellemah: malfunction at a power station
<djellemah> Currently our state-run power company can't use about 28% of it's capacity because of 20 years of neglect. My neighbours have a generator, and I'm seriously considering buying one.
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<djellemah> Q: What did South Africa use before candles? A: Electricity.
<yorickpeterse> har har
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<djellemah> Ironically, because power outages are a given here, anything critical already has a backup generator. Unlike, say, Schipol :-|
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<yorickpeterse> Schiphol has one
<yorickpeterse> They however don't, apparently, have an instant failover system and instead require a certain period of time for the generators to kick in
<yorickpeterse> which worries me
<yorickpeterse> Typically a datacentre will have regular power, some form of batteries and generators
<yorickpeterse> regular power dead? Use the batteries while waiting for the generators to kick in
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<darix> yorickpeterse: just curious ... for your pgsql setup: pgpool for failover?
<yorickpeterse> darix: RDS
<yorickpeterse> So no idea
<darix> ah
<yorickpeterse> We do have a multi-AZ setup, but that's not exactly the same as pgpool
<darix> yorickpeterse: well pgpool can do the master selection, was just wondering if you used it and how it worked for you. :)
<yorickpeterse> No, never used it. I looked into it seeing if RDS might secretly be using it, but that's about it
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<darix> ok
<bougyman> darix: seen pl-proxy ?
<bougyman> I've been meaning to give that a run for sharding tasks.
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<darix> bougyman: i only packaged pgpool, pgbouncer so far
<darix> bougyman: and i really only want "failover handling + single entry point for clients"
<bougyman> ah.
<bougyman> pl-proxy could give you that.
<bougyman> I mean, the features list and docs say it can, I haven't _done it_ yet.
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<darix> damn needs patched postgresql atm
<darix> so for the long term todo
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<darix> yorickpeterse: url to your last blog post? (pgsql migration)
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<darix> thanks
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<surrounder> yorickpeterse: heh xs4all had issues because of the power outage @ dc
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<yorickpeterse> prrfft
<yorickpeterse> and I just switched to them
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<imperator> need a little help with rb_raise if anyone has a moment
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<imperator> basically want i want is the C version of: raise SystemCallError.new("Oops", 22)
<imperator> which would give me: #<Errno::EINVAL: Invalid argument - Oops>
<imperator> in my extension i tried this: rb_raise(rb_eSystemCallError, "Oops", 22);
<imperator> but that gives me: unknown error - Oops (SystemCallError)
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<imperator> i thought, ok, i'll create an instance of SystemCallError and raise that, but I don't see an internal function that allows that
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<imperator> any ideas how to do what I want?
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<Burgestrand> imperator: couldn’t you just call new on rb_eSystemCallError, just as you do in Ruby, and raise that?
<Burgestrand> imperator: e.g. rb_funcall(rb_eSystemCallError, rb_intern(“new”), 2, rb_str_new2(“Oops”), INT2FIX(22))
<Burgestrand> Hmm, looks like your third argument is causing you trouble. rb_raise takes a format string, and so your third argument will be interpreted as a format string argument, that’s probably why it isn’t working for you.
<Burgestrand> Either way the second method ought to work, assuming you call `raise` on Kernel with your newly created error.
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<imperator> Burgestrand, ok, will try
* imperator must go
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<ruby-lang320> hi
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<jhass> hi
<Senjai> hi
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<mtrimmer> Does anyone here know anything about OptionParser's Shell Completion functionality? It looks like OptionParser always defines a --*-completion-bash flag, that if I pass part of an option, it retuns the list of possible matches. However I haven't found any documentation on how to configure bash to make use of this
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<mtrimmer> The doc does say: Shell Completion¶ ↑For modern shells (e.g. bash, zsh, etc.), you can use shell completion for command line options.
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<anomaly1337> hi all)
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<anomaly1337> are anybody here?
<cpt_yossarian> hello
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<anomaly1337> who whrere storage business logic in railis app?
<anomaly1337> ))
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<yorickpeterse> That question makes no sense
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<mtrimmer> Does anyone here know anything about OptionParser's Shell Completion functionality? It looks like OptionParser always defines a --*-completion-bash flag, that if I pass part of an option, it returns the list of possible matches. However I haven't found any documentation on how to configure bash to make use of this
<mtrimmer> The doc does say: Shell Completion¶ ↑For modern shells (e.g. bash, zsh, etc.), you can use shell completion for command line options.
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<mtrimmer> come on, this question makes sense! :-p
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<cpt_yossarian> mtrimmer: bash loads shell completion via sourcing, so i could only guess that OptionParser provides some way to generate bash_completion scripts
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<cpt_yossarian> i don't think it's possible to do it dynamically though, it has to be done as a separate command (e.g. at shell startup or by the user)
<mtrimmer> yeah, i'll have to export something into the environment, or set a bash "complete" command, I'm just looking for some documentation on how that was designed to work
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<mtrimmer> the only reference I can find in the OptParse lib for it is here: https://github.com/rubysl/rubysl-optparse/blob/2.0/lib/rubysl/optparse/optparse.rb#L792
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<cpt_yossarian> interesting
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<gchristensen> Hi, I'm running ruby 2.2.1, and running @metrics.slice_before(len: 0) do |element, state| ... end, but get the error: warning: initial_state given for slice_before. (Use local variables.). it isn't clear to me what the resolution is. any suggestion?
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<jhass> gchristensen: the parameter is deprecated, closure over a local variable instead
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<jhass> state = 0; @metrics.slice_before do |element| slice? element, state; end;
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<apeiros> gchristensen is cross posting.
<gchristensen> sorry about that, apeiros
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<gchristensen> I appreciate your help, jhass
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<Zen-Zen> First time here... happy to find this.
<havenwood> Zen-Zen: welcome!
<Zen-Zen> taking a Ruby class and off to shaky start... is OK to post questions here?
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<apeiros> Zen-Zen: sure
<havenwood> Zen-Zen: yeah, both here and #ruby are good places for general Ruby questions
<apeiros> and don't worry, if we're not happy about something, we'll say so
<apeiros> (and usually common sense will steer you easily clear of such events)
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<Zen-Zen> Ok here goes... been working on this for couple days and I am googled out. I need to check the first letter of sentence for being capitalized. User input is several sentences.
<Zen-Zen> I x.split them into arrays of sentences, words, and letter ok...
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<apeiros> Zen-Zen: I suggest you use gist.github.com to paste your best approach, with an example input.
<apeiros> then tell us where you're stuck with your approach
<Zen-Zen> just cannot figure out a way to iterate through the array and test for capitals?
<Zen-Zen> OK good idea.
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<apeiros> I assume you only have to test ascii?
<apeiros> that is, A-Z. nothing like Ä or similar…?
<Zen-Zen> yes, this is an intro to Ruby class... not test place in memory or anything yet.
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<jhass> Zen-Zen: how's that gist going? :)
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<Dysp> Hi. I hope there are some nice people here who wants to help out. I am a total programming newbie and just need a little help to get started. I've decided to use Aptana studio 3 and try creating a Rails project. But, I can't even getting past installing and getting around errors. It's very discouraging because learning the damn language is gonna be hard - I don't feel like juggling with install files and errors even before I get star
<Dysp> -g me? :)
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<Dysp> PM me and I'll paste where I am stuck in the installing progress.
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<jhass> Dysp: first line got cut off at "I get star", however don't be afraid of posting in query, just make a gist with the error you're getting
<apeiros> Dysp: I can't help with aptana. but I can help you get help. ask in the channel. people are *far* less likely to help in private.
<jhass> er of posting in public I mean
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<Dysp> Well, creating a project gets Aptana to try installing some gems, but it seems it get stuck and the makes the following error:
<Dysp> SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read server certificate B: certificate verify failed
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<jhass> mh, is that windows?
<Dysp> Yes.
<jhass> do you have some commandline where gem --version works?
<jhass> if so, what does it output?
<Dysp> Yields 2.2.2
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<jhass> okay, we'll have to take a couple of steps in order to update your rubygems version
<Dysp> Lovely! It's really a jungle.
<jhass> download the following file, remember the full path to where you saved it: https://rubygems.org/downloads/rubygems-update-2.4.6.gem
<Dysp> What I've done so far is downloading and installing aptana studio 3 and also http://railsinstaller.org/en
<jhass> if you got that run gem install path/to/rubygems-update-2.4.6.gem
<jhass> replacing path/to/ with the full path of course
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<jhass> and if that is true the last and final step is running update_rubygems, after that installing gems should work
<jhass> er, *through
<jhass> have one of my silly phonetic misspelling days again :)
<Dysp> Looks like succes \o/
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<Dysp> Still getting error when making new project.
<jhass> what error?
<Dysp> Please take notice that I am deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to programming :p I cant get my away around Excel and that is it. So assume I know nothing.
<Dysp> can*
<jhass> well, this is more system administration than programming :P
<Dysp> That too :P
<jhass> can you enter commands where that output comes from? I've never even seen Aptana ;)
<Dysp> Yes, its a terminal
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<jhass> was that where you run gem --version earlier? What does it report there now?
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<Dysp> Yes.
<Dysp> 2.2.2 still.
<jhass> mmh
<Dysp> Soab..
<Dysp> :P
<jhass> do you still have the log of the steps we took earlier?
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<Dysp> I just ran the step we did before again
<Dysp> Successfully installed rubygems-update-2.4.6 Parsing documentation for rubygems-update-2.4.6 Done installing documentation for rubygems-update after 0 seconds 1 gem installed
<Dysp> Running the gem --version just still yield 2.2.2
<jhass> yes, you must run update_rubygems
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<Dysp> Ah.
<Dysp> how? :D
<jhass> like gem
<jhass> type: update_rubygems
<jhass> press enter
<Dysp> So first I just downloaded, but didn't actually use it for anything?
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<Dysp> Okay, 2.4.6 now. Great. Good. Nice.
<jhass> well, it's the manual way to update the gem command
<jhass> we couldn't use the built in way (gem update --system) since that's broken too on windows for that version
<Dysp> Awesome.
<Dysp> The "DL is deprecated, please use Fiddle". Should I worry about that?
<jhass> no
<Dysp> Okay. It seems like.. like.. it works.
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<Dysp> I'll go tell my daughter to stop dancing for the Ruby gods
<Dysp> (I dont have a daughter)
<Dysp> Also, can I ask you if I should learn about github? I was thinking it would be a good idea to use it, hence I will be needing a shitload of help from external people.
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<jhass> github is a nice tool, it's the defacto standard for open source collaboration and source code management these days, however you don't need to mix that with learning programming, focus on that first and look at SCM when you have some confidence
<jhass> trying to learn everything there is at once will just make you have less progress in either ;)
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<Dysp> True story.
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