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<godd2>
I would think equestrians and grooms debride.
<jefus>
haaa
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quit
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<moogumbo>
If I have a method that takes keyword arguments, do I have to do anything special to pass in those keyword arguments from a hash when I invoke it?
<jhass>
lol, "Yes, it is possible to apply Weka to <strong>big data</strong>!"
<smoitra>
wallerdev: because I am rubyist
<wallerdev>
are you?
<jhass>
smoitra: sinatra should be fine I guess
<smoitra>
I am planning for rails
<jhass>
what feature of rails will you need?
<wallerdev>
scaling probably
<wallerdev>
lol
<wallerdev>
is it going to be a large site?
<wallerdev>
or just like a single page
<wallerdev>
are you gonna need a database?
<jhass>
what's the feature set? how would the typical user workflow look like?
<smoitra>
The user should be able to upload data
<jhass>
that's too vague
<jhass>
get detailed
<smoitra>
and all the preprocessing stuff
<jhass>
1) user starts application server 2) user opens web browser and visits localhost:1234 3) ...
<wallerdev>
too much detail
<wallerdev>
tell us less
<wallerdev>
lol
<jhass>
or 1) user visits superawesomebigdatacloud.com 2) user signs up for a user account priced at $99 per month 3)...
<wallerdev>
i wouldnt use sinatra if you need to have many different pages and need to like store data and browse through old records and thigns on the site
<wallerdev>
but thats just personal preference
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<smoitra>
Basically I will be making a website based on this where user will come and upload the data and get results
<jhass>
okay I give up
<jhass>
good luck
<wallerdev>
if it's just a one or two page website i wouldnt bother with rails
<wallerdev>
haha
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<[spoiler]>
yorickpeterse: Just saw your pro-Postgre rant on HN :P
<[spoiler]>
Postgres*
<centrx>
"For example, at some point in time we had to remove about a million documents from MongoDB and then re-insert them later on. The result of this process was that the database went in a near total lockdown for several hours, resulting in degraded performance."
<centrx>
yorickpeterse, Is that for real, why does anyone use, only a million records?
<yorickpeterse>
centrx: what, the article?
<yorickpeterse>
Yeah it's the real deal
<centrx>
I mean how bad it sounds like Mongo sucks
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<yorickpeterse>
Oh yeah, we won't miss it
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<pipework>
yorickpeterse: Yeah, I don't think sensational databases like that can recover from some of their problems anytime soon. I use postgres unless I'm having fun with graph databases.
<|jemc|>
yorickpeterse: sounds like you solved your problems by adding *static types* to your database :D
* |jemc|
runs
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<yorickpeterse>
|jemc|: pretty much
<yorickpeterse>
no generics though, they should've called it GoSQL :<
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<|jemc|>
I love how go project names always sound like rude imperative commands when read aloud
<|jemc|>
GoScrewYourself (A Go implementation of the Screw Yourself protocl)
<yorickpeterse>
got the title the wrong way around
<yorickpeterse>
can't edit it either :?
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<yorickpeterse>
* :/
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<turova>
Hello! I'm trying to install a gem on a fresh copy of CentOS (in a docker container) and it's failing to find ruby/io.h (http://pastebin.com/WShgBGjC). Anyone know what I need to do to install this?
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<centrx>
turova, Ruby dev package with header files
<centrx>
turova, Ruby 1.8 is very old and beyond end-of-life. Maybe the gem doesn't support it
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<turova>
hmm yea that actually sounds right.. I didn't have problems when I installed it from source... annoyingly this project is really pushing for everything to be out of the standard repo
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<turova>
centrx, thanks I think that solves my problem though
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<wallerdev>
what do you mean by smart manifest files Senjai
<Senjai>
Manifest files that package the javascript necessary for the page
<Senjai>
into one or two files
<wallerdev>
how would that help haha, its already in 0 files
<wallerdev>
and we need javascirpt for the site to load
<wallerdev>
since it's a web app
<Senjai>
A <script> tag in the head, like every other website
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<Senjai>
lol
<Senjai>
Your complaint was # of simultaneous requests, manifest files solve that issue
<Senjai>
yorickpeterse: We used logentries before, but we didn't keep it on
<yorickpeterse>
Hm, we just use the assets hell^H^H^H^H pipeline, seems to work
<Senjai>
Something about all logs had to be a single line
<wallerdev>
its still an extra request though?
<wallerdev>
haha
<yorickpeterse>
Senjai: oh, that could be
<Senjai>
wallerdev: Yes, that can be cached once you get it
<Senjai>
whereas if you inline it, it cant
<wallerdev>
well its most important that the site is quick on the first load, once the user signs up theyve already decided to use it :p
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<Senjai>
Uhm, what
<Senjai>
It can be fast on the first load
<Senjai>
the home page doesnt need the javascript for the whole application
<wallerdev>
think of all the extra request though slowing it down
<yorickpeterse>
but how are you going to load your 50MB Ember app otherwise?
<wallerdev>
its angular thank you very much
<wallerdev>
:D
<yorickpeterse>
sounds familiar
<yorickpeterse>
we still have Angular 1.0.1 in production
<wallerdev>
:(
<yorickpeterse>
yup
<yorickpeterse>
it's on the "Burn with fire" list
<Senjai>
We load angular with a script tag.
<Senjai>
Also fuck angular
<wallerdev>
we're on 1.2.16 haha
<Senjai>
</thatisall>
<wallerdev>
although we have made some modifications
<Senjai>
Backbone + Marionette + React(ish)
<Senjai>
ftw
<wallerdev>
btw rollbar support is great
<apeiros_>
22:49 Senjai: whereas if you inline it, it cant
<apeiros_>
what? of course you can
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<wallerdev>
you ask them anything and they respond within like 3 seconds
<wallerdev>
haha
<Senjai>
You can cache the page itself
<Senjai>
but if every page inlines the javascript
<Senjai>
each page has to be cached
<Senjai>
If you're whole app is the one SPA
<Senjai>
then you're fine, sure
<apeiros_>
every? weren't you talking SPA?
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<apeiros_>
ah
<wallerdev>
yeah we have one page for our main app
<Senjai>
We have .. pages. And then we have an application
<Senjai>
beause we dont use angular for static content
<wallerdev>
why not?
<wallerdev>
think of how dynamic you could make it
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<Senjai>
Because you dont need javascript for shit that doesnt change
<Senjai>
:P
<Senjai>
It's taking a hammer, to wave it around, when there are no nails
<Senjai>
Just because you can
<Senjai>
xD
<wallerdev>
what if you wanted the copyright date at the bottom to update based on what year it was, i dont see any other way to do that besides angular
<wallerdev>
:P
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<Senjai>
You can do that without javascript
<Senjai>
Serverside
<wallerdev>
uhh
<Senjai>
Or you can do that with *gulp* plain javascript
<Senjai>
you dont need angular for that
<wallerdev>
then youd have the wrong info when someone is on your page during their new years party
<wallerdev>
lol
<Senjai>
IF THE COPYRIGHT DATE IS IN YOUR DIGEST LOOP YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
<Senjai>
xD
<wallerdev>
lolol
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<Kareesh>
Anyone looking for paid work? I need a graphics designer and a mobile website developer, pm me
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<bradland>
fwiw, the copyright year should reflect the year the copy was written, not the current year.
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<yorickpeterse>
copyright notices in general are fairly useless
<yorickpeterse>
since not stating copyright in no way voids it
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<wallerdev>
i usually write it like
<wallerdev>
2008 - 20xx
<wallerdev>
where the 2nd numbe rdynamically updates
<wallerdev>
every tenth of a second
<wallerdev>
lol
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