#ruby-lang on 2015-03-05 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-02-25 16:26 apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.0; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p643: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on https://gist.github.com

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00:02 <Dala> Thank you very much, that is an interesting idea

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00:04 <jhass> Dala: if you know some implementation details of the method you call, passing the default for the key or nil can work too

00:05 <jhass> though it's a less resilient approach I guess

00:05 <Dala> True, one example is, saving a mysql field as a hash. say I have 3 params in that hash, two are optional but I do not want to store it in the db as nil.

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00:05 <Dala> when ever a param is nil, I just only want to store the ones that have non nil values

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00:06 <jhass> yeah, it's more interesting for option hashes than data hashes, since often implementations do stuff like if opts[:do_thing]

00:07 <Dala> Thought of something, creating a method that accepts a hash, it loops through it and removes the key of any element that has a value of nil, then returns a hash that has no nil's Rick Fernandez [7:06 PM] then I can reuse that same method when ever I come across this.

00:07 <Dala> Thought of something, creating a method that accepts a hash, it loops through it and removes the key of any element that has a value of nil, then returns a hash that has no nil's then I can reuse that same method when ever I come across this.

00:08 <jhass> it's quite a gotcha for a later reader of your code though

00:08 <jhass> especially not to use it when nil is a significant value

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00:08 <jhass> that said, AS has ithttp://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/Hash.html#method-i-compact

00:09 <Dala> Even better: h.reject {|k,v| v == nil }

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01:39 <headius> yorickpeterse: was thinking about doing some benchmarking and profiling of oga...good a good benchmarking howto for me?

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02:07 <kgst> Does anyone know why a gem might install correctly, but then when I try to require it, it would say "cannot load such file -- " and the gem name?

02:08 <womble> kgst: Because where you installed it isn't where rubygems is looking for it at runtime.

02:11 <kgst> Do you know of a way I could change or fix this? I am running it on cloud 9, all I've done is say 'gem install signer' etc.

02:11 <womble> No idea. Best to talk to cloud 9.

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02:18 <kgst> Are Ruby gems the same as Ruby on Rails gems?

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02:51 <JamesDH> If I wanted to inerpolate a string into a range like puts *1..10 but have the answer a1 a2 a3 how would I do that?

02:52 <womble> >> (1..10).map { |i| "a#{i}" }.join(" ")

02:52 <eval-in_> womble => "a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10" (https://eval.in/296270)

02:52 <womble> JamesDH: ^^

02:53 <JamesDH> @womble Thank you!

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04:17 <Codeacademynoob> Hi can anyone help me with a question i am having on code academy?

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04:19 <Codeacademynoob> http://www.codecademy.com/courses/ruby-beginner-en-Zjd2y/0/3?curriculum_id=5059f8619189a5000201fbcb this lesson if anyone can take a look and give me suggestions

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04:21 <Codeacademynoob> Anyone online?

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04:26 <plshalp> Anyone here ever use code academy?

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05:03 <weaksauce> just looked at it basically

05:07 <weaksauce> well codeacademynoob you aren't here but if you are out there thinking hard you might feel the answer... they are looking for one line answers

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05:07 <weaksauce> the two returns should be one liners

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07:56 <cdan> hello everybody

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08:33 <maloik> morning

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08:36 <womble> LIES!

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08:37 <maloik> no, honest

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09:17 <yorickpeterse> headius: assuming you have it cloned, run `rake fixtures` followed by `ruby benchmark/xml/.../...`

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09:18 <yorickpeterse> headius: benchmarks are broken up in lexer/parser benchmarks, so it depends on what you want to look at

09:18 <yorickpeterse> the parsers are being replaced, so their numbers would change soon-ish

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10:58 <darix> https://aphyr.com/posts/317-call-me-maybe-elasticsearch

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11:13 <yorickpeterse> well shit

11:13 <yorickpeterse> I think we got most of this 3.2 rails app on 4.2

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15:45 <ljarvis> \o/

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15:53 <centrx> ljarvis, Would it be welcome in Mechanize to be able to change the actual user agent string rather than needing to use one of the pre-made AGENT_ALIASES (as they tend to get old)

15:55 <ljarvis> centrx: Mechanize::Agent#user_agent=

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15:55 <ljarvis> Mechanize::HTTP::Agent rather

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15:56 <ljarvis> it's also on Mechanize too, do `m = Mechanize.new; m.user_agent = "something"`

15:56 <centrx> ah!!

15:56 <ljarvis> it's so welcome it's already there! :)

15:56 <centrx> why didn't I see that before, is this a new feature?

15:56 <ljarvis> it was added in 2011

15:57 <ljarvis> there's a lot of stuff there, it's easy to miss things

15:57 <darix> centrx: so in some worlds, 2011 is actually recent. ;)

15:57 <centrx> the best of all possible worlds

15:57 <centrx> ljarvis, Thank you!

15:57 <ljarvis> pleasure

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16:26 <yorickpeterse> Right, almost end of the day, time to commit lord knows what

16:26 <yorickpeterse> El Big Refactor

16:26 <maloik> oh just deploy it already

16:26 <maloik> :D

16:26 <maloik> Y U NO AGILE

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16:27 <yorickpeterse> because my sprint doesn't allow me to

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16:27 <yorickpeterse> see, I didn't plan a deploy, nor did we do any planning poker

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16:27 <yorickpeterse> therefor I have to wait 3 weeks before I am allowed to continue

16:28 <yorickpeterse> (this is a joke btw)

16:28 <maloik> oh that makes perfect sense

16:28 <yorickpeterse> (in case that wasn't obvious)

16:28 <maloik> (I know)

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16:41 <yorickpeterse> 17:40: last one in the office

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16:41 <yorickpeterse> time to get out my secret stash of strong alcohol

16:42 <tunaCanBruh> (you won't)

16:42 <yorickpeterse> (I know)

16:42 <yorickpeterse> Sometimes the idea of just wrecking the place is very tempting though

16:42 <yorickpeterse> as in, I wonder what would happen (besides me getting fired)

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17:00 <workmad3> yorickpeterse: you'd also feel a profound sense of pleasure from the destruction and chaos around you

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17:02 <yorickpeterse> Yeah, it would feel very similar to how I approach messy codebases

17:05 * yorickpeterse loves going through codebases with a sledgehammer

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17:07 <yorickpeterse> Ah well, enough hammering for the day

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17:07 <yorickpeterse> Time to go home and continue hammering on my own stuff

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19:21 <WhoNeedszZz> howdy

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20:43 <WhoNeedszZz> Wow I think i can hear the crickets

20:44 <havenn> that's a bug

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20:59 <centrx> WhoNeedszZz, See also #ruby and #rubyonrails

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21:00 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: Lots of chatter in #ruby.

21:02 <WhoNeedszZz> I never did get the reason for #ruby and #ruby-lang

21:03 <WhoNeedszZz> They even have the exact same topics

21:03 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: TIMTOWTDI

21:03 <WhoNeedszZz> ?

21:03 <centrx> They are practically different

21:04 <havenn> It's a Ruby initialism, "There is more than one way to do it."

21:04 <WhoNeedszZz> Perl you mean :p

21:04 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: We stole it. Ours now.

21:04 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: Finders keepers.

21:04 <WhoNeedszZz> lol

21:04 <WhoNeedszZz> ok so what's the practical difference?

21:05 <canton7> this one's smaller :P

21:05 <canton7> tbh they've converged. I imagine most people in here are also in #ruby-lang

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21:05 <WhoNeedszZz> Seems more confusing this way

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21:06 <canton7> it's legacy, if you like. it's not like someone made the decision to have two channels

21:07 <canton7> things just... are. It's IRC. People do what they like

21:07 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: Having #map and #collect can be confusing when first encountered, but lets folk choose which they (vicerally) prefer.

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21:09 <WhoNeedszZz> canton7, actually someone did decide to have 2 channels - the person who made the second one :p

21:09 <canton7> I seem to remember they were originally different, with different purposes

21:10 <canton7> then they converged, as I alluded to before

21:10 <havenn> and ruby-lang used to have nick reg req

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21:10 <WhoNeedszZz> For posterity, eh?

21:10 <canton7> who's going to kill off a channel

21:10 <canton7> "sorry guys, show's up"

21:10 <canton7> who's got the authority to make that call?

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21:14 <WhoNeedszZz> Man you are reading way too much into my question. I never suggested getting rid of oen.

21:14 <WhoNeedszZz> one*

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21:15 <WhoNeedszZz> Sorry I'm not allowed to voice an opinion that it is confusing

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21:17 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: There are only 190 people in this chan who aren't also in #ruby.

21:18 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: Two do exist for historical reasons, so having one does indeed mean killing the other.

21:18 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: You're allowed, notice you've not been kicked or banned. :P

21:18 <havenn> WhoNeedszZz: It's a fine question. The answer just isn't very interesting.

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21:21 <WhoNeedszZz> havenwood, i didn't suggest only having one

21:21 <WhoNeedszZz> All i said was it was confusing, shit

21:22 <havenwood> WhoNeedszZz: I'd expect they'll eventually be folded into a single channel. When someone gets around to bothering to try again.

21:23 <havenwood> WhoNeedszZz: The creator of #ruby is somewhat AWOL.

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21:24 <havenwood> I recall drbrain saying something about asking Freenode and they wanted proof he had rights to do it. >.>

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21:24 <havenwood> I don't recall the details. Anyway #ruby is more populated but ruby-lang.org links to here.

21:26 <Senjai> havenwood: They also kind of have different communities

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21:26 <Senjai> There is definitely a different vibe in either room

21:26 <havenwood> ay

21:26 <havenwood> aye*

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21:27 <Senjai> And honestly, I prefer the difference

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21:28 <havenwood> Senjai: I think I've argued that in the past. I care less as they converge but yeah there's still a difference.

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21:29 <WhoNeedszZz> Senjai, that's what I was trying to ask. Thanks

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21:58 <moogumbo> Where in the docs is the "&&" method defined?

21:58 <moogumbo> I looked on Object, TrueClass, FalseClass... no luck.

21:58 <apeiros_> moogumbo: && is not a method

21:58 <moogumbo> Oh, that's... unfortunate

21:59 <moogumbo> Well, what I really want is to take an array and reduce it using the && operator... I was trying to be clever and pass it in like my_array.reduce(&"&&".to_sym) but I guess I have to write a block?

22:00 <|jemc|> moogumbo: it's not a method because it has no conditionally evaluate the right hand

22:00 <centrx> moogumbo, that's usually any? or all?

22:00 <|jemc|> *it has to

22:00 <moogumbo> |jemc|: Oh I see

22:00 <moogumbo> centrx: Good point. Totally forgot about those for some reason.

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22:02 <|jemc|> moogumbo: also, FYI, if you're going for concise:

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22:02 <|jemc|> :"&&" == "&&".to_sym

22:02 <moogumbo> Oh, that's handy. Thanks.

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