#ruby-lang on 2015-03-03 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-02-25 16:26 apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.0; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p643: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on https://gist.github.com

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02:28 <zdennis> Would anyone be up for taking a peek at an issue I’m having on OSX with SIGTSTP and STDIN.gets? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28733968/reading-input-after-child-process-receives-sigtstp-in-a-ruby-shell

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09:25 <maloik> Anyone aware of any RoR channels other than #rubyonrails ? I always fail to get any help in there at all

09:25 <yorickpeterse> morning

09:25 <maloik> ohai

09:25 <yorickpeterse> maloik: there's #django

09:25 <yorickpeterse> :>

09:25 <maloik> :-(

09:26 <ljarvis> moin

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09:38 <DefV> maloik: I always start with "I'm not an idiot, but.."

09:38 <maloik> maybe I am an idiot for even trying

09:39 <maloik> I'll go in there, explain a general problem as best I can, they'll start yelling "zomg show code" and then stop responding when you do show code :D

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09:39 <ljarvis> there's a lot of assholes in there

09:40 <ljarvis> I left a long time ago, the place only made me angry

09:40 <maloik> exactly, but for some reason I still seem to think it's the best place to ask a question from time to time

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09:41 <tbuehlmann> I'm regularly helping over there and don't have the feeling that there are many assholes. either that or I myself am an asshole

09:41 <ljarvis> the problem with that place is as sson as you ask a question it's assumed that you are an idiot

09:41 <ljarvis> by a lot of people

09:41 <maloik> yea I feel that way as well

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09:42 <tbuehlmann> assumed by whom?

09:42 <maloik> I've never seen people really try to help out on somewhat complicated problems either... perhaps irc isn't the place for that, but still

09:42 <maloik> I'm not going to name names :)

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09:55 <toretore> maloik: they are quite right to ask you for your code

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10:15 <maloik> toretore: are you saying that in general, or in the context of my actual question?

10:16 <maloik> in general I agree, in the context of my question... not so much. That said, I did give my code, but they remained silent after that

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10:22 <piotrj> maloik: maybe there was no one that knew how to help you?

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11:01 <toretore> maloik: not in general, always.

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11:17 <apeiros_> I got mixed experiences

11:17 <apeiros_> sometimes I was surprised to get good help on complex topics

11:18 <apeiros_> and sometimes I got unhelpful and condescending responses on what I assumed to be simple topics

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12:50 <maloik> toretore: imo sometimes a problem can easily be explain in a simple sentence

12:50 <maloik> just yelling "code!" and then ignoring the question isn't helpful at all

12:50 <maloik> I honestly think the original question often isn't even read

12:51 <rsl> GOTO 10

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13:12 <toretore> maloik: it is presumptious, selfish and arrogant not to prepare your code when asking a question related to it

13:12 <toretore> but that's just like my opinion man

13:13 <toretore> rsl: o/

13:13 <rsl> \o

13:13 <maloik> toretore: surely there's concepts that don't require it

13:14 <toretore> it's outrageous, egregious, preposterous

13:15 <maloik> let's just agree to disagree then

13:17 <toretore> lewd, lascivious and salacious

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13:17 <maloik> I get it

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13:23 <DefV> rash, smug and egotistic

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13:24 <DefV> I never ask questions without having a simplistic version of the problem with code written out

13:24 <DefV> often, writing the simplistic versions improves my idea on the problem as well

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14:00 <apeiros_> english lessons in #ruby-lang today

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14:22 <oddmunds> i have several times asked a question, then when preparing a code example, discovered the solution myself

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15:20 <darix> that is normal

15:20 <darix> because that normally forces you to articulate the idea and think it through

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19:09 <godd2> I'm imagining a 90s sitcom where Matz gets into all kinds of shenanigans, and cout is the angry neighbor

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19:13 <cout> I really just want to rebind a block to get a different cref

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21:09 <yatish27> I want to parse a simple string like "My name is **NAME**" to "My name is NAME"

21:09 <yatish27> What is the best way to do it in Ruby

21:10 <jhass> yatish27: sounds like markdown?

21:11 <yatish27> Yes it is

21:11 <jhass> yatish27: check through https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/categories/markup_processors

21:11 <yatish27> but I just have to parse this string

21:12 <yatish27> No external Gem

21:12 <jhass> why not?

21:13 <yatish27> bcos I have to built a markdown like parser

21:13 <havenwood> yatish27: why?

21:14 <yatish27> studying parsers

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21:15 <yatish27> havenwood: So i need to start with simple parsing rules so I am trying for regexp

21:16 <yatish27> But I am not able to get regex rule which will substitute in this way

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21:27 <womble> yatish27: That would be because regexps are terrible parsers.

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21:27 <womble> Use a real parser, such as racc or treetop.

21:27 <darix> yatish27: https://gist.github.com/fooqri/4573704

21:28 <darix> http://www.colm.net/open-source/ragel/

21:28 <|jemc|> just to throw out other parser generators: 'kpeg' is a good one

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21:31 <jhass> (they crossposted to #ruby)

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21:45 <havenwood> >> "My name is **NAME**, I live in **CITY**".gsub(/\*\*[^\*\*]*\*\*/) { |strong| "#{strong[2..-3]}" }

21:45 <eval-in> havenwood => "My name is NAME, I live in CITY" (https://eval.in/295702)

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21:45 <havenwood> yatish27: Just for fun^, but yeah look at how a real parser does it.

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21:46 <yatish27> yes

21:47 <jhass> havenwood: [^\*\*] == [^*]

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21:47 <havenwood> jhass: ha, indeed

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21:48 <jhass> havenwood: and for some fun http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=hey+**foo+*bar**

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21:49 <jhass> change the spacing around any of the * for more fun

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21:52 <havenwood> jhass: oh wow, that's all over the place :O

21:53 <jhass> yeah, markdown is fun

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