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RickHull >
using chruby, installed ruby 2.1.3 as non-root
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README says chruby updates PATH
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did `gem install pry`, reloaded shell, but no pry in PATH
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oops, `gem install --user-install pry`
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havenwood >
RickHull: did you source chruby.sh?
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havenwood: yeah
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i was hoping chruby would take care of updating my PATH for --user-install gems
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RickHull: ah
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i believe it supports custom methods
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no I hadn't, I'll take a look at the source, thanks!
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RickHull: chruby and --user-install still aren't compatible unfortunately, but after a chruby it should install gems into your home, just a slightly different path
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jhass: oh ok
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boosh, thanks!
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oh, welp
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banisterfiend: i got "invalid options: -SNw2" on pry install
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komanda: try looking at the source for e.g. HTTP::Get
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RickHull: Good idea
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you can do that on your local machine, or maybe github
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komanda: yeah, just confirmed it's super simple :)
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komanda: assuming ruby is installed, `locate requests.rb`
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(on a unix type machine with locate installed)
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RickHull: thanks so much
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np, cheers!
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basically generating code for API requests in multiple languages (hence why I'm not a rubyist but still looking into this...)
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I'm out for dinner, thanks again :)
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banisterfiend: googling around, i think it's a coderay problem
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yorickpeterse >
morning children
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apeiros_ >
moin boy
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apeiros_ >
adventure time :D
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yorickpeterse >
what
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doing shit I haven't done in ages
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and it's a bit make or break
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hence adventure time
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of course… "MX records that point to IP's are technically legal, but can cause problems for some mailing systems. Always better to use a FQDN."
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apeiros_ >
well then, boilerplate it is.
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yorickpeterse >
Ah, mail servers
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yorickpeterse >
sounds like fun
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huh, I thought MX records had to point to an A record
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yorickpeterse >
I take it you have a full procedure on how to deal with asshole sysadmins putting your server on blacklists?
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but then it's been a while since I was a postmaster
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yorickpeterse: no. but that MX is 99.9% receiving
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but still interested - how do you deal with them?
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apeiros_: you hurl abuse
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. by sending an Email (oh the irony) :P
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but they will never see it because you're blacklisted!
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In a distant past I ran my own Email server
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brrrr
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great. website migrated. temporary DNS entries for MX migration up. now to the interesting part - configuring postfix/dovecot/pg/amavis/spamassassin
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and after that: figuring out how TF I test that stuff
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modifiers:
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not null default ''::character varying
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lol psql
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it's for a text field
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darix >
apeiros_: i have a nice test script for mail server testing ;)
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tomaz_b >
hi guys...
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tomaz_b >
i was trying to get some numbers... how long does it takes for getting results for some queries...
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tomaz_b >
i prepared myself one script... but i am not sure... that i did it correctly. is there a way that i could put more load on postgresql..
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tomaz_b >
do i need a diferent approach reagarding connections and executions?
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i would just like to get some numbers, pgbench is "too much for me"..
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tomaz_b >
i am new to PG...
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tomaz_b >
can i somehow execute those in parallel?
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tomaz_b >
to occupy all cores?
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Your question makes no sense
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yorickpeterse >
Also, this channel is about Ruby and not PG :)
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apeiros >
x44x45x41x4E: hi DANE
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tomaz_b >
i use ruby with pg?
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x44x45x41x4E >
apeiros Umm. Hi? Hahah. Sup?
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apeiros >
x44x45x41x4E: nothing, was just curious what your nick was ;-)
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apeiros >
tomaz_b: ruby is not a good choice to load test pg.
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tomaz_b >
i moved "conn" into a loop
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x44x45x41x4E >
apeiros Haha. I see. A lot of people tell me that. It's really just the hexadecimal of my first name. =))
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x44x45x41x4E >
And it's not DANE. Hehe.
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tomaz_b >
well... i don't really need to fully stres test postgres
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x44x45x41x4E: whoops, misremembered. DEAN, of course
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tomaz_b >
but prepare this script in a way, that i could issue some sort of load.... so that at the end ... I can make some endings... about two different Azure VMs
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apeiros >
I looked it up last time I saw you. been a while.
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tomaz_b: want to be able to say something meaningful at the end? use a proper benchmark tool.
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apeiros: thanks..
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yorickpeterse: saw you mention something about thread safety and autoload in gitter...can you elaborate?
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apeiros: OT: looks like there's a new player handing out free certs: wosign :D
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Hey I'm a total noob in Paris on day 9 of a Ruby dev bootcamp, and I have a question about method_missing in classes. I'm supposed to make an UberHash class that instantly creates a method within the instance of the class if I call that unexisting method. I don't understand how method_missing works
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I might need to use instance_eval as well, but I'm not sure what that does either
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def method_missing(*args); p args; end
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chris2 >
then try to figure out what you can do with args
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jhass >
atmosfeer: sounds like a job for method_missing + define_singleton_method
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jhass >
atmosfeer: docs for those two should be a good starting point
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jhass >
then come back with a more specific question
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Alright thanks, I'll look those two up
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atmosfeer >
jhass: What am I missing so uber_hash.color returns red on the last line?
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jhass >
atmosfeer: I think you said your task was to define a getter for it, for that you use define_singleton_method
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jhass >
if it just should dynamically return the value you need to either differentiate on the method name or examine the number of arguments
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jhass: OK, what's the default value of a key that doesn't exist in a hash? nil?
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jhass >
you can also set with Hash::new/Hash#default/Hash#default_proc
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jhass >
note that nil is also a valid value
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jhass >
so to check for key existence use Hash#has_key?
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jhass: ah yes of course
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headius: I have code using the aws-sdk-v1 running on JRuby 1.7.something which seemingly randomly throws errors such as "NameError: uninitialized constant AWS::Core::Signers::Version4" and "NameError: uninitialized constant AWS::Core::Client::Response"
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yorickpeterse >
it only occurs very rarely, not sure what's the cause of it just yet
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headius >
ok, what is it you consider to be not threadsafe?
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yorickpeterse >
either AWS is doing something that breaks, or JRuby 1.7's autoloading is apparently not thread-safe
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yorickpeterse >
Not sure in this case, haven't been able to try out 9k with this code either :/
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headius >
I don't think it's the latter...it's pretty easy for a library to do something like defined?(SomeClass) that's autoloaded and see it partially initialized
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headius >
or defined?(SomeOtherClass) that is defined during an unrelated autoload
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headius >
save the backtrace next time you see it
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headius >
if it is a problem in jruby's autoload we need to fix it
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yorickpeterse >
wouldn't defined?(SomeConstant) trigger the autoloading process first?
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jhass >
atmosfeer: btw can you choose some filename that ends in .rb for your gists? turns on syntax highlighting ;)
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atmosfeer >
jhass: If the key exists it should just return the value at that key, and if not, it assigns the argument to it...
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jhass >
atmosfeer: anyway, to find out why t doesn't make the first line in your method_missing p(method_id) ;)
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atmosfeer >
jhass: sorry, I'm new at this
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headius >
yorickpeterse: it would, sorry, I meant a class or constant
*not* directly autoloaded
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atmosfeer >
jhass: I don't understand what :color= is. Can I .to_sym it?
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e.g. you autoload :Foo, 'foo.rb', but have a defined?(Bar) and Bar is defined by foo.rb too
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so basically bad combination of autoload and defined
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headius: Ah right
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jhass >
atmosfeer: it already is a symbol
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headius >
the real problem is that ruby should not allow partial classes to be visible across threads
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jhass >
atmosfeer: and it's the name of the method that's being called
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jhass >
obj.foo = bar is mere syntax sugar for obj.foo=(bar)
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headius >
I have a patch for JRuby that makes all class/module modification transactional (STM)
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headius >
some day I will be able to convince others
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jhass: Ahh, so I need to trim the = from the symbol name?
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atmosfeer >
jhass: IT WORKED. Thank you, man
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headius >
yorickpeterse: in any case...let me know if you see it again or need assistance debugging it
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meh, everybody already left the office
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yorickpeterse >
and it's not even 18:00
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yorickpeterse >
and we're out of snacks :<
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yorickpeterse: time to find a new job
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yorickpeterse: Where do you work?
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Cool stuff
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yorickpeterse: Sounds challenging
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Senjai: heh, it can be at times
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in different ways
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apeiros_ >
my hero for today: darix
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* apeiros_
bows & thanks
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