apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.1; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p643: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on https://gist.github.com
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<TiMike> hello, I am brand new to ruby, I am trying to print out some values from a json object.. I have it working when I output json, but not html, any help on what I am doing wrong would be appreciated.. here are my 2 lines of code
<TiMike> format.json {render :json => foos.to_json( :only => [:def, :value])}
<TiMike> format.html {render :inline => "*#{foo.def}* &mdash; _#{foo.value}_"}
<jhass> TiMike: please join #RubyOnRails for rails questions
<TiMike> oh ok, thanks jhass
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<darix> drbrain: how can i do something like: Gem::Version.new(RUBY_VERSION) ~> Gem::Version.new("2.1.0") in a ruby script?
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<drbrain> $ ruby -ve 'p Gem::Requirement.new("~> 2.1.0").satisfied_by? Gem.ruby_version'
<drbrain> ruby 2.1.5p273 (2014-11-13 revision 48405) [x86_64-darwin14.0]
<drbrain> true
<drbrain> $ ruby19 -ve 'p Gem::Requirement.new("~> 2.1.0").satisfied_by? Gem.ruby_version'
<drbrain> ruby 1.9.3p551 (2014-11-13) [x86_64-darwin14.0.0]
<drbrain> false
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<drbrain> darix: ↑
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<darix> drbrain: thanks
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<darix> will patch that in after sleeping
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<etxud> not much activity here
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<ruby-lang807> Hi, I'm a Perl developer, I want to learn Ruby now, could you suggest me a good book? Not looking for a heavy reference type book.
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<ruby-lang807> I know docs are an awesome way to learn any language, I refer perldoc for perl, but for ruby I want to get a book so that I can read it on weekend in free time and explore the language and then go in detail if I like it.
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<chris2> i liked 'programming ruby'
<chris2> serves as intro to programmers and ref
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<yorickpeterse> morning children
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<minminsanjose> sudo gem install cocoapods
<minminsanjose> Password:
<minminsanjose> Successfully installed cocoapods-0.36.0
<minminsanjose> 1 gem installed
<minminsanjose> Now pod setup:
<minminsanjose> pod setup
<minminsanjose> /usr/local/var/rbenv/versions/2.1.5/lib/ruby/2.1.0/rubygems/dependency.rb:298:in `to_specs': Could not find 'cocoapods' (>= 0) among 154 total gem(s) (Gem::LoadError)
<minminsanjose> from /usr/local/var/rbenv/versions/2.1.5/lib/ruby/2.1.0/rubygems/dependency.rb:309:in `to_spec'
<minminsanjose> from /usr/local/var/rbenv/versions/2.1.5/lib/ruby/2.1.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_gem.rb:53:in `gem'
<minminsanjose> from /usr/local/var/rbenv/versions/2.1.5/bin/pod:22:in `<main>'
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<yorickpeterse> minminsanjose: please do not paste directly into IRC
<yorickpeterse> (see the topic)
<yorickpeterse> Also, if you're using rbenv you don't need to install gems with sudo
<yorickpeterse> In fact, you should never do that
<yorickpeterse> it's super dangerous
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<Eising> People prefer rbenv to rvm nowadays?
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<workmad3> Eising: I prefer chruby and ruby-install, personally
<workmad3> Eising: RVM has too many things I don't tend to use (although plenty of people find them useful, so don't discount it just because of my personal preference) and I dislike the way rbenv works
<jhass> ^ same
<jhass> rbenv completely looses for me for the fact that by design you have to put the exact version into .ruby-version and it won't do any matching
<apeiros_> Eising: I stuck with rvm because it hasn't disappointed me so far. why learn something new if what I have works just fine?
<Eising> well, I have rvm on my laptop, but I'm so confused on what I should do on my production machines...
<jhass> https://gist.github.com/jhass/8839655bb038e829fba1 is my setup, I switched from RVM to it so I get my ruby updates via regular system updates
<toretore> Eising: don't use a version manager in production
<Eising> toretore: which is why I haven't deployed one either
<yorickpeterse> apeiros_: I actually have a document as to why RVM really doesn't work
<yorickpeterse> sec
<Eising> currently, I use whatever the newest one bundled by my distribution is, but that means I'm stuck on 1.9.3 on mostly everything
<toretore> your production env shouldn't depend on some state set by some program not relevant to its functionality
<toretore> just install a new one, it's not a big deal
<yorickpeterse> Oh hm, it's more a collection of random notes
<apeiros_> Eising: well, theoretically you'd compile your stuff on another machine. at work we just have gcc & rvm on prod, because it's just so much less effort.
<jhass> what's with RVM2 btw? Isn't it in development now for ages?
<Eising> apeiros_: you sound like a freebsd kind of type :P
<yorickpeterse> either way, it's the Gems it installs by default (rubygems-bundler, executable-hooks, bundler-unload) that fuck up shebangs, though you can at least disable those
<apeiros_> yorickpeterse: ok, s/works just fine/works just fine for me/ :)
<yorickpeterse> it's also that even with that it sometimes still fucks up shebangs
<yorickpeterse> and that it tries to muck with RubyGems upon Ruby installations
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<apeiros_> jhass: should have been done last year I think.
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<yorickpeterse> mpapis is focusing on finishing it last I heard
<yorickpeterse> Either way, I really hate RVM, it actually lead to downtime various times
<yorickpeterse> e.g. because the "unicorn" cmd had a fucked shebang, even though we were using --env-shebang
<yorickpeterse> but yes, chruby/ruby-install > all
<apeiros_> Eising: if we were running public prod, I'd probably insist on spending the additional effort. but since our servers are in private networks, I don't see enough value in it. also I'm only a voice in that regard, I'm not responsible :)
<Eising> apeiros_: oh definitively
<Eising> I agree
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<Eising> My projects are also very internal
<Eising> so I don't really care that much
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<Eising> I just haven't been able to see the best solution for deploying another version of ruby in a debian environment, while both making sure that the bundled version still works, and my apps always select the newer version
* Eising hears the silent whisper of the word Docker
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<workmad3> yorickpeterse: hehe :) it was rubygems-bundler that finally drove me away from rvm tbh... it was interferring with my own preferences on how to sort out 'bundle exec'
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<jhass> Eising: it'd be interesting to know how well the Brightbox packages work in Debian
<jhass> if they do work, I'd say those + chruby ;)
<Eising> jhass: I had no idea about brightbox
<Eising> thanks for that. That helps
<jhass> they are for ubuntu though, so might as well cause conflict hell on debian
* Eising triest to resist the temptations of upgrading production to 2.2
<workmad3> Eising: on my company servers, I set up ruby-install via chef just to handle compiling a ruby version for the box (I'd like to move to a more packaged approach, possibly with an omnibus-style embedded version of everything needed for a particular app) but compiling the version(s) needed and setting up the environment for services via chef works fine for now :)
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<darix> and now to find out how to fix option parser behavior on 1.8
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<darix> hah shell script wrapper is to be blamed. fixed.
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<morfeen_> hi
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<morfeen_> does using methods like any? impose performance penalities as opposed to using the corresponding iterative form?
<Senjai> morfeen_: Depends
<apeiros> morfeen_: no. any? iterates itself.
<Senjai> apeiros: In all cases?
<centrx> morfeen_, usually enumerable methods are faster than the iterative form
<morfeen_> centrx: how so? Does the compiler optimize them?
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<Senjai> ActiveRecord::Model#any? (sql query)
<Senjai> Cant you also
<Senjai> just determine if there is anything in an array
<apeiros> Senjai: depending on what precisely you do, one or the other will be faster. but almost certainly it's only academically.
<Senjai> by the length of the array
<centrx> morfeen_, They are written in C and use best practices
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<centrx> morfeen_, e.g. a naive iterative implementation of any? might not cut off when it finds the first one
<Senjai> apeiros: I would have thought any? could determine if ther eis anything in the array via sizeof in C?
<apeiros> Senjai: you think of any? without a block?
<apeiros> it still has to test whether any of the items in the array is non-nil non-false
<Senjai> Without a block
<Senjai> sorry
<Senjai> I know .any? with a block iterates until it finds the first item where the condition is true
<apeiros> without a block, that condition is testing for truthy
<Senjai> Oh.
<Senjai> So I want collection.size > 0?
<Senjai> or #length?
<apeiros> empty?
<Senjai> !collection.empty?
<Senjai> ?
<apeiros> yes
<centrx> Array#any? has if (!len) return Qfalse;
<Senjai> centrx: So it does just short circuit if the length is zero?
<centrx> Senjai, seems so, in C if len == 0 then !len == 1 or something I think
<Senjai> Aye, I think so too.
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<Senjai> I had thought that'd be the desired behavior
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<jtoy> hi all
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<jtoy> gem list bigbroda ->bigbroda (0.0.7, 0.0.5) ; but irb -rbigbroda -> /Users/jtoy/.rbenv/versions/2.1.2/lib/ruby/2.1.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:55:in `require': cannot load such file -- bigbroda (LoadError)
<jtoy> its driving me cray
<jtoy> crazy
<jhass> jtoy: compare shebangs of gem and irb
<jhass> jtoy: actually that library is at fail: https://github.com/michelson/BigBroda/tree/master/lib
<jhass> no bigbroda.rb to require
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<jhass> jtoy: if you want to blame them, here's a handy reference: http://guides.rubygems.org/name-your-gem/
<jtoy> jhass: what did you check to do that?
<jtoy> that was such a waste of time
<jhass> mh?
<jhass> do what?
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<jhass> going to their github and browsing to lib?
<jhass> rubygems.org -> search bigbroda, click homepage
<jtoy> i mean but how do you know there is no bigbroda to require?
<jhass> I went to their github and saw there's none in lib
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<jtoy> because the module name is not actually BigBroda
<jtoy> i see
<jhass> then send you the link to it to prove
<jhass> yeah, completely failing conventions
<jhass> you have the full right to blame then
<jhass> see second link if you need some backup in doing so
<jtoy> thanks for the help, saved some of my hair :)
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<ruby-lang428> is ruby on rail language dead?
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<ruby-lang428> it seems the startup world is moving on the new things
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<weaksauce> does the startup world dictate the usefulness of a project nowadays ?
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