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<adrien> is it possible to have cmdliner output its --help message in something that similar to the "traditional" output for --help, i.e. not a manpage but like gnu mv's --help
<adrien> basically I don't want a 10 feet manpage
<adrien> especially considering my target users won't have groff nor a pager most of the time
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<flux> that would be nice, I think
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<flux> hmm, quite a compact snmp daemon in C, 20-kilobyte binary. I guess no sense trying to beat that in ocaml :)
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<orbifx> vbmithr here?
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<orbifx> is there any advantage using `let open Xyz in` as a nested statement?
<orbifx> other than preventing namespace pollution?
<orbifx> does it mean it will load the library at that stage for that function only for example?
<Drup> considering ocaml is statically linked by default, that doesn't make much sense
<Maelan> no
<Maelan> “libraries” (modules) are linked statically
<Maelan> all the open statements, global or local, are only syntactic sugar to save typing
<orbifx> since we are on the topic, I presume there is a way to do it dynamically, right?
<Maelan> (i may be wrong, in that case please correct me)
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<def`> Maelan: you are correct
<def`> orbifx: there is the Dynlink module
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<def`> lyou can read the documentation if you want to know more :)
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<orbifx> def`: will do when necessary, thanks for providing the direction though.
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<Maelan> def`, i suddenly had a doubt because i once saw a thread on the camlist titled “destructive local open” which i did not read
<Maelan> but it is something else
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<sbrouf> Hello
<sbrouf> can someone help me with a small compilation problem ?
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<sbrouf> Here is a description of my problem : http://pastebin.com/Wjmz8kGm
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<companion_cube> sbrouf: -I src/ would help, I think
<companion_cube> using ocamlbuild, too
<sbrouf> ok -I src did it, thanks a bunch :)
<ollehar1> -I is include, right?
<companion_cube> yes
<ollehar1> include source path, to be precise
<Maelan> aow, i just found (), true and false are now valid constructor names
<Maelan> but i can’t figure out the syntax to construct () with arguments
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<Maelan> hm, utop was guilty
<Maelan> the expected syntax just works in the default REPL
<Maelan> actually, utop completely fails with that
<Maelan> after typing:
<Maelan> utop # type t = () of int ;;
<Maelan> (which is accepted)
<Maelan> utop gives the following error on any single command typed:
<Maelan> utop # 0 ;;
<Maelan> Error: The constructor () expects 1 argument(s), but is applied here to 0 argument(s)
<Maelan> is this known?
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<thizanne> Maelan: it works with ocaml, it's utop's fault also
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<Drup> Maelan: that you have camlp4 auto loaded
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<python476> ocaml complains when I nest function p0 | p1 ... px -> function ... what does it mean ?
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<Maelan> python476, maybe you forgot to enclose the inner pattern matching (with parentheses or begin … end)?
<python476> I did neither of that
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<python476> no wait, I tried parens, in vain
<python476> Maelan: aight, it was a 'higher' type error
<python476> I misunderstood the problem
<python476> (duh)
<Maelan> Drup, i do not think so
<Maelan> if i write « #camlp4o » i get a parse error when defining « type t = () of int »
<Maelan> (the same in utop and ocaml)
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<Maelan> (but if type t was defined before, () is still recognized as a constructor of type t (with the same bug in utop if () is non-constant))
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<thizanne> you should not actually care about how to use () as a constructor, Maelan :)
<Maelan> very true
<Maelan> the case of true|false is curious too
<Maelan> # type t = true ;;
<Maelan> # true = false ;;
<Maelan> ==> Error: This variant expression is expected to have type t; The constructor false does not belong to type t
<Maelan> # false = true ;;
<Maelan> ==> - : bool = false
<Maelan> # not true ;;
<Maelan> ==> - : bool = false
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<Maelan> so the new constructor ‘true’ does not shadow the standard one, ‘true’ still means the standard one if it was first inferred to be of type bool
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<Maelan> … just realized this is the usual behaviour :/
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<Drup> Maelan: that's constructor disambiguation at work
<Maelan> i find it very confusing
<Drup> that's because you are using it in a completely absurde case
<Drup> type t = true of bool ;;
<Drup> true true ;;
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