#ocaml on 2015-11-30 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-11-14 15:27 adrien changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://www.ocaml.org | OCaml MOOC http://1149.fr/ocaml-mooc | OCaml 4.02.3 announced http://ocaml.org/releases/4.02.html | Try OCaml in your browser: http://try.ocamlpro.com | Public channel logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml

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01:03 <dr_toboggan> ok, so, i'm debugging this package. i can build a test version in the git repo directory

01:03 <dr_toboggan> i can use this test version in ocamlscript with the flags: Ocaml.ocamlflags := ["-I"; "path_to_repo/_build/src/"; "package_name_here.cmxa"]

01:03 <dr_toboggan> is there an easy way to do that in utop?

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01:08 <Druup> the same options ?

01:08 <nullcatxxx_> uu ...

01:09 <dr_toboggan> File "/tmp/sociaml-tumblr-api/_build/src/sociaml_tumblr_api.cmxa", line 1, characters 12-13:

01:09 <dr_toboggan> Error: Illegal character (\132)

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01:11 <dr_toboggan> let me see if -require works...

01:12 <Druup> give it the .cma

01:12 <Druup> instead of the cmxa

01:12 <Druup> (require is for ocamlfind packages, which you don't have if you haven't installed it)

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01:16 <dr_toboggan> bingo, using the cma worked

01:16 <dr_toboggan> thanks

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02:23 <Algebr> I'm using bitstring and confused a little bit about results that are differing from just using C. Code in pastebin with more info http://pastebin.com/R5nq8PJr

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02:35 <cody`> Algebr: You probably want to leave it as Int32, you can print it directly with "%lx"

02:35 <cody`> (Int32.to_int x land 0xffffffff) would work on 64 bit systems

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02:37 <Drup> (or just Int32.logand x 0xffffffffl)

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02:44 <cody`> What's happening is sign-extension, by the way

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07:29 <reynir> Yes

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17:51 <Leonidas> does anyone know how constructors are represented in OCaml?

17:51 <Leonidas> after the compiler runs, the types are eliminated, but how are different constructors represented at runtime?

17:52 <Drup> Leonidas: integers

17:53 <Drup> There is a good chapter about memory representation in RWO

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17:57 <hcarty> Leonidas: This FFI tutorial also has some nice descriptions and examples

17:58 <zozozo> Drup: is there somewhere an explanation of how exceptions are represented ? I didn't find anything

17:58 <Drup> zozozo: hum, I don't now exactly

17:59 <Drup> the constructor itself is still an int, but there are other things

18:01 <zozozo> Drup: from what I can see, it seems like exceptions have the same tag as objects (i.e Obj.object_tag), and also store their name as a string

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18:10 <companion_cube> wooooooow magichttp://vrac.cedeela.fr/yolo_exn.ml <-- wow.

18:10 <Leonidas> Drup: thanks, that's a good idea

18:10 <Leonidas> (to check out RWO)

18:13 <Drup> companion_cube: :D

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18:15 <flux> companion_cube, cool technique, I shall employ that greatly for its benefits in my projects!

18:16 <companion_cube> yeah, I don't like readability either

18:16 <companion_cube> renaming exceptions is the future!

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18:19 <flux> some say ocaml is just way too dynamic compared to ie. ruby, so I see this paving way for better ways to affect code behavior at runtime

18:19 <flux> oops s/dynamic/static/

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18:21 <Leonidas> you could load ctypes, look up the tag and do your own pattern matching in your code

18:21 <Leonidas> such dynamics, wow.

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18:25 <zozozo> companion_cube: I'd say compiling with safe_string should solve that problem

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18:29 <companion_cube> it ruins all the fun

18:30 <companion_cube> Leonidas: just use Obj

18:30 <zozozo> companion_cube: actually, Printexc.to_string uses a *lot* of Obj functions when no custom printer can handle an exception

18:31 <companion_cube> :)

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18:33 <Drup> the whole Printexc module is deeply magical

18:33 <companion_cube> :/

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18:34 <zozozo> well, it does pretty magical things, ^^

18:34 <companion_cube> well I suppose that without magic it would just print "<exn>" when no printer is found

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18:37 <Drup> well, there is that, but also, print_backtrace is not referentially transparent

18:37 <Drup> and some other functions too

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19:19 <Algebr> Does Gerd every come to #ocaml

19:19 <Algebr> ever*

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22:20 <companion_cube> hannes: looking at https://github.com/hannesm/conex 's readme, not everyone uses opam publish... :/

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