<purrr>
System/Master e28c542 elliottcable: `woman` to pipe manpages into Preview. Fuck fixed-width.
<whitequark>
yay for noninformative names
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<whitequark>
ah that's dotfiles
<purr>
<eboy> ohhhhhhhhh
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<audy>
What's your favorite Python argument parser?
<audy>
please tell me Kenneth Reitz made something
<audy>
huzzah! he has
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<Nuck>
Well shit
<Nuck>
Apparently my jailbroken iPhone made all the apps disappear today, because they were "stashed improperly"
<Nuck>
So now I've gotta restore from backup, possibly manually redo all my home screens, etc.
<Nuck>
Luckily, I took a bunch of reference screenshots back when I was sharing my setup on /w/, but still... What a pain in the ass
<whitequark>
Nuck: use OSes which can do full-disk backups?
<Nuck>
whitequark: Meh, I'd rather have a system that rarely needs pain-in-the-ass restores than a system which needs regular easy restores
<Nuck>
Plus I'm rather fond of iOS
<whitequark>
Nuck: regular restores?
* whitequark
couldn't quite remember if he ever restored his phone except once when it was stolen
<whitequark>
in, er, 1.5 years
<whitequark>
it's... common sense. if you take backups, those backups should be readable. preferably by anything.
<Nuck>
My iPhone works fine. I don't get why people bitch about it. The system runs perfectly unless you start raping it yourself.
<Nuck>
It's my fault these apps disappeared — I let it sync with iTunes unsupervised (I fell asleep)
<vil>
Nuck: s/unsupervised//
<whitequark>
yes, the system works fine unless you do something except 1.5 royally approved actions
<vil>
I quite enjoy my iPhone as well
<whitequark>
it's amazing to watch the prevalence of stockholm syndrome
<vil>
but syncing with iTunes is asking for trouble even when not jailbroken
<Nuck>
It's not stockholm syndrome. I just like my phone to work right out of the box with zero config.
<vil>
whitequark: I'd be quite happy to switch away from Apple, if someone could make something that I consider better
<Nuck>
^
<vil>
I'm not a huge fan of where they're taking OS X
<vil>
but it's still better than dealing with Linux
<vil>
and fuck Windows
<Nuck>
I've used Android. It felt trashy, it felt awkward, and everything was poorly-composited.
* whitequark
shrugs
<purr>
¯\(º_o)/¯
<vil>
the scrolling is enough to turn me off
<vil>
one swipe and I feel all icky
<whitequark>
Nuck: if it's less than 4.1, it doesn't matter anymore
<Nuck>
I love Mac's scrolling
<Nuck>
whitequark: Android version?
<whitequark>
Nuck: yeah
<vil>
Nuck: do you use "natural"?
<whitequark>
prior to 4.1 it's shit
<Nuck>
vil: Yep
<vil>
good
<vil>
my future roommate doesn't
<vil>
he thinks it's silly
<vil>
going to have to change his mind
<whitequark>
haha
<Nuck>
I honestly don't remember what version it was — it was one of Sony Ericsson's models, and it was at least a year or two ago
<whitequark>
Nuck: chances that it was 2.x. it is indeed really bad.
<Nuck>
There's one Android device that I'd be willing to touch, honestly
<Nuck>
And that's the Nexus series.
<whitequark>
they hired a designer prior to releasing 4.x series. it's much better
<whitequark>
agree on Nexus.
<Nuck>
I have the utmost respect for the Nexus series.
<whitequark>
I've SGS2 now and while the hardware is fine--actually what it could withstand is amazing--but the software is really, really fucked up
<Nuck>
But all the other models seem to be like Windows PCs — preloaded with 1200 trash apps, takes a few hours to configure for the first time, etcn.
<whitequark>
and cyanogenmod can't even fix that.
<whitequark>
because the kernel is totally fucked up
<Nuck>
Yowch
<Nuck>
Recompile it?
<Nuck>
:D
<vil>
Nexus is sexy, I'll give it that
<whitequark>
Nuck: ugh
<vil>
one of my friends has the 4 and 10
<vil>
so nice
<whitequark>
no one could make sense of the shit samsung did with it
<whitequark>
seriously. just don't use it.
<whitequark>
also security holes all over it
<whitequark>
nexus is neat
<whitequark>
I'm going to buy Optimus G E971, which is exactly the nexus but with LTE
<whitequark>
(and shitty LG firmware, but I don't care as I use cyanogenmod anyway.)
<whitequark>
nexus 4
<Nuck>
I recently got bitched out by an Android fanboy for saying that the Nexus was the only phone I'd use, because apparently "the Galaxy ones are good too, it's the same hardware duuuuuh"
<whitequark>
Nuck: it was
<vil>
lol
<purr>
lol
<whitequark>
in the ages of galaxy s (not 2)
<whitequark>
they were both shitty
<whitequark>
google rotates manufacturers for each nexus
<vil>
yeah
<Nuck>
My iPhone's been sitting on this boot screen for quite a while... Should probably do the long-boot procedures
* whitequark
looks at e971 specs
<whitequark>
why the fuck do they put quad-cores in smartphones
<whitequark>
why?!
<Nuck>
Oh nevermind it's doing something :o
* vil
is learning moar vim
<whitequark>
and 8-core chips is on the track
<Nuck>
vil: Apparently there's a vim-tutor app and I didn't know :D
<vil>
yep
<Nuck>
whitequark: I honestly don't know
<vil>
never finished it
<vil>
got bored
<Nuck>
vil: Same lol
<whitequark>
they even add another smaller chip (tech called big.LITTLE) because the main 8 cores (either of them) eat waaaay too much battery
<vil>
I'd rather learn by destroying a few files and getting lost in the configuration
<whitequark>
I'm watching it and just don't get wtf is it about
<whitequark>
also if you'll ever know something contains big.LITTLE. don't buy it. ARM couldn't quite figure out the synch between the two cores/parts of the chip, and it doesn't really work good
<purr>
<elliottcable> HARRY PIOTR
<whitequark>
purr: fuck off
<Nuck>
Battery consumption shitty? ADD MOAR CHIPS
<whitequark>
Nuck: to be fair in SGS2 the most battery-eating element is the modem
<whitequark>
which is ironically exactly the same, including firmware, as in iphone 4s
<whitequark>
it's Intel XMM6260 for the record. an exceptional piece of crap
<Nuck>
The modem?
<whitequark>
Nuck: baseband
<Nuck>
ah
<Nuck>
The difference there lies in that Apple is fucking OCD about battery life and will do crazy shit elsewhere to get that 8 hour mark :P
<whitequark>
they could assemble another phone there. its own RTOS, 64MB of RAM
<whitequark>
Nuck: SGS2/CM has no problems with the 8 hour mark :p
<Nuck>
8 hour active use?
<whitequark>
Nuck: FSVO active, yes
<whitequark>
I mean if you sit on the internet on the moscow carrier I'm on, your phone will discharge in 30 minutes
<whitequark>
but exactly so will do an iphone 4s
<Nuck>
Filesystem Venereal Disease?
<whitequark>
Nuck: for some value of
<Nuck>
Wait
<Nuck>
Russian phone carrier
<whitequark>
but I think I once watched h264 video for 6-8 hours or so
<Nuck>
OMG HACKERZ
* Nuck
runs back to the 90's
<whitequark>
Nuck: wat.
<purr>
beep.
<Nuck>
C'mon, who doesn't think of 90's hackers when they think of Russian ISPs?
<whitequark>
dunno, I don't
<Nuck>
The entire hacking community just uses Russian sites for some goddamn reason
<whitequark>
ah. that explains... some things. :/
<whitequark>
Nuck: I guess because until very recently you could register domains for $3/y and without any paper trail
<whitequark>
cheaper in bulk
<Nuck>
That's probably part of it, yeah
<Nuck>
Also, Russia and America still aren't exactly on great tersm
<whitequark>
now they do require passport, but because it's a fucking oppressive regimen
<whitequark>
has nothing to do with prevention of illegal activity. in practice at least.
<Nuck>
Russia just has so many problems
<whitequark>
two actually: fools and roads (it's an old proverb)
<whitequark>
and the first problem constantly fixes the second :p
<Nuck>
haha
<whitequark>
1km of road in moscow costs something around $100m, ±1 order of magnitude
<Nuck>
All Americans think that "Russian Highways" are simply muddy rivers with cars stuck in them
<whitequark>
Nuck: THAT IS FUCKING CORRECT
<Nuck>
Woooooo, Americans were right for once!
<whitequark>
I mean it is LITERALLY fucking correct for most of the russia
<Nuck>
What's the like trans-siberian highway
<Nuck>
Which gets so bad during summer that it'll take like 3 months to cross
<Nuck>
Well fuck, noy my phone is stuck in recovery mode and won't recover. Not sure how dumb the devs behind jailbreaks are, but this isn't impressing me at all
<whitequark>
Nuck: enjoy.
<Nuck>
Oh wow
<Nuck>
TinyUmbrella fixes errything
<Nuck>
Useful
<Nuck>
Looks like it was a HOSTS file modification on my iPhone which probably caused the restore issues — I forgot to remove the patch
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* Nuck
puts the "broke" in "jailbroke"
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<Nuck>
'hoy alexgordon
<alexgordon>
o7 captain Nuck
<Nuck>
NUCK NUCK GIVE IM THE NUCK
<alexgordon>
i suppose Nuck is more like worf
<alexgordon>
if elliottcable is the captain and micahjohnston is the number one
<alexgordon>
not sure what I am. probably like commander data or something