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<gmaxwell> yea, because leap seconds totally happen three days in a row at the end of september. :-/
<TD-Linux> oh oh. is this chrony or ntpd?
<nsh> maybe your computer just really wants to be in the rocky horror picture show
<gmaxwell> TD-Linux: neighter of them were on the host so I assume it's systemd's fault! (debian testing)
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<nsh> entirely plausible
<TD-Linux> oh right, systemd has its own client now
<TD-Linux> systemd-timesyncd
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<GreenIsMyPepper> I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, systemd/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux.
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<jgarzik> GreenIsMyPepper, :)
<gmaxwell> tehehe
<gmaxwell> "or linux--"
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<fluffypony> .title
<yoleaux> Effective Cryptography in the JVM - Terse Systems
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<azariah> maaku: how has vitalik "been plagarizing the entire bitcoin space" ? from what I've seen he's often refering to and crediting previous work in the Bitcoin space, BIPs, bitcointalk threads, etc in his blog posts and other writings.
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<phantomcircuit> azariah, he only does so after he's called out on failing to do it
<phantomcircuit> and then still fails to credit things correctly
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<nsh> i am become qubit, the devourer of worlds
<nsh> ' Here we present a two-qubit logic gate, which uses single spins in isotopically enriched silicon14 and is realized by performing single- and two-qubit operations in a quantum dot system using the exchange interaction, as envisaged in the Loss–DiVincenzo proposal2. We realize CNOT gates via controlled-phase operations combined with single-qubit operations. Direct gate-voltage control provides single-qubit addressability, together with a switchable exc
<nsh> hange interaction that is used in the two-qubit controlled-phase gate. By independently reading out both qubits, we measure clear anticorrelations in the two-spin probabilities of the CNOT gate.'
<nsh> (hold your nose)
<moa> and pat the top of your head while rubbing your tummy
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<jcorgan> cl
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<psztorc> re: Nature article. ...painful to read.
<psztorc> One could tear it apart, but, you know, journalists exist to sell themselves (ie, tell people what they want to hear).
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<bsm1175321> Which article?
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<bsm1175321> Anyone here want to present a paper in my journal club in NYC? http://blog.sldx.com/announcing-whitepaper-wednesdays/
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<kanzure> someone should tell w3c about compact spv proofs http://interledger.org/
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<kanzure> preferably someone who can actually tolerate w3c
<kanzure> oh it is ripple people
* bsm1175321 adds interledger to his ignore list.
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<kanzure> ignoring it is probably bad- two-phase commit is generally a good idea, and there's some merit to the idea of atomic cross-chain trading, but it would be better to inform the standards bodies that there are solutions out there that they should be considering
<bsm1175321> Given that this seems to be a Ripple initiative, they have their centralized solution already...
<bsm1175321> I'm really not a fan of atomic cross-chain trading due to the large timeouts and backout transactions required.
<kanzure> also there are other techniques which could use compact spv proofs but otherwise use lightning network stuff like http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/010909.html
<bsm1175321> I think there's a better solution to the fair 2-party exchange problem that we haven't seen yet.
<kanzure> actually i don't remember why i didn't include spv proofs in that email
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<bsm1175321> I'd love to have a journal club on lightning networks. I haven't had a chance to dig into that topic yet...
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<nwilcox> 13:11 < bsm1175321> I think there's a better solution to the fair 2-party exchange problem that we haven't seen yet.
<nwilcox> I'm all ears. ;-p
<bsm1175321> As am I ;-)
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<bsm1175321> kanzure, Taek: what's the latest on wiki-fying your bookmarks? I have another volunteer to throw at the effort... (And I still didn't set up the wiki itself like I promised...)
<Taek> bsm1175321: another meeting tonight. We'll be working on the same pages that we started last time
<Taek> Txn fees page is ~complete, as far as getting started goes
<bsm1175321> Where is your github for *.md files again?
<Taek> I'm going to be focusing on the uxto page tonight
<Taek> I think the readme + transaction fees.md give a good example of what I'm currently aiming for things to look like
<bsm1175321> Ok, sounds good. Send me your email privately and I'll copy you in mailing this new volunteer.
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<kanzure> bsm1175321: plz use kanzure@gmail.com in the future for me
<bsm1175321> ok
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