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<OxADADA> are they any useful tools for experimenting/debugging/emulating bitcoin script?
<OxADADA> as of right now i'm using python-bitcoinlib, and debugging the op codes aren't very user-friendly :)
<kanzure> webbtc.com had a debugger at one point; i think bitpay also released one implemented in javascript.
<kanzure> yeah i would personally prefer to use python-bitcoinlib for script debugging
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<OxADADA> thx b.
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<andytoshi> OxADADA: are you comfortable using rust?
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<andytoshi> OxADADA: #bitcoin-dev is probably a better channel for this. i have a rust library that can do script tracing etc (though i got distracted and the rust language moved on, so i don't have any tools that actually implement this right now)
<OxADADA> andytoshi: not Rust, but i've been interested in trying it.
<OxADADA> andytoshi: what do you mean 'tracing'?
<andytoshi> OxADADA: i mean my lib has a function that you give a Script to and it returns an array of ScriptTrace objects which have a bunch of info about the opcode as well as the state of the stack, whether we are in an executed/unexecuted branch etc
<andytoshi> i used to have a wallet that exposed this over RPC but it got bitrotted by the rustlib changes over the last year
<OxADADA> andytoshi: what rotted, the libs?
<andytoshi> OxADADA: my code. the library changed a lot because i did all the development before 1.0
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<OxADADA> andytoshi: if you posted it on GH it might get some lovin' from some code-fairy that finds it useful enough to update ;-)
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<yoleaux> nsh: Sorry, I don't know what timezone that is. If in doubt, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones for a list of options.
<yoleaux> Thinking Algorithmically About Impossibility - YouTube
<nsh> (Simons Inst)
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<MRL-Relay> [tacotime] 0xADADA: hashmal
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<amiller> probabilistic micropayments at CCS, one of the top security conferences
<gmaxwell> amiller: does the scheme prevent/discourage doublespends?
<amiller> (that link is failing for me now so ymmv)
<amiller> back up now
<amiller> yes, using a greenaddress / micropayment 'hub' kinda thing
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<amiller> btw, if i haven't mentioned it here already yet, CCS has TWO sessions on cryptocurrency http://www.sigsac.org/ccs/CCS2015/pro_agenda.html
<bsm1175321> Ah you're presenting your nonoutsourceable paper. Good. I like that idea.
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<nsh> Abstract: We propose a new Elliptic curve at a security level significantly greater than the standard 128 bits, that fills a gap in current proposals while bucking the expected security vs cost curve by exploiting the new trick recently described by Granger and Scott. This essentially reduces the cost of field multiplication to that of a field squaring. -- http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/991
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<gmaxwell> Faster ECC over F 2 521 −1 by Granger and Scott is actually the interesting paper. :)
* nsh nods
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<derperter> new blood can I really mine coins for $
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