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<gmaxwell>
WOOT. google books case is great
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The ultimate goal of copyright is to expand public knowledge and understanding, which
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14 copyright seeks to achieve by giving potential creators exclusive control over copying of their
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15 works, thus giving them a financial incentive to create informative, intellectually enriching
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16 works for public consumption. This objective is clearly reflected in the Constitution’s
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17 empowerment of Congress “To promote the Progress of Science . . . by securing for limited
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1 Times to Authors . . . the exclusive Right to their respective Writings.” U.S. Const., Art. I, § 8,
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2 cl. 8) (emphasis added). 11 Thus, while authors are undoubtedly important intended beneficiaries
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3 of copyright, the ultimate, primary intended beneficiary is the public, whose access to knowledge
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4 copyright seeks to advance by providing rewards for authorship.
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<c-cex-finch>
why does bitcoin 0.11.1 getinfo give ""errors":"This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications""
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<kinlo>
c-cex-finch: did you compile it yourself or so?
<c-cex-yuriy>
Yes we did :)
<c-cex-yuriy>
Looks like we need some github option to use stable fork instead of default one
<kinlo>
in contrast to other software, we don't recommend building your own bitcoin, you want to use the official binaries imho :)
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<bsm117532>
kanzure: interesting...
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I don't understand how it avoids double spending. It comes down to order of operations on a central tracker. Given multiple trackers, I could broadcast different spends to different trackers, and he doesn't indicate a way to resolve the discrepancy between trackers. Or did I miss something?
<gmaxwell>
c-cex-yuriy: git checkout v0.11.1
<c-cex-yuriy>
cool thanks
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<trinity_help>
hey, I was wondering, did anyone reputable ever vette the Vanitygen codebase?
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<katu>
trinity_help: i dont think officialy, but i presume plenty of people have seen it
<trinity_help>
katu: agreed, just wondering if anyone officially reviewed it
<phantomcircuit>
trinity_help, "officially" ?
<phantomcircuit>
if what your asking is whether anybody will guarantee that it works correctly.... no
<katu>
trinity_help: afaik some people were only surprised about the split key mining, but thats just natural property of the ec group law and is completely secure.
<Luke-Jr>
vanilla vanitygen doesn't even support that, does it?
<trinity_help>
phantomcircuit: right, I guess I'm asking specifically has anyone encountered a case where the keypair output didn't match, or was a duplicate of a keypair previously generated
<phantomcircuit>
i haven't seen anybody report such an error
<trinity_help>
admittedly I haven't either but I've only played with it casually
<Luke-Jr>
some day, I'd like to add vanity mining to BFGMiner.. :p
<katu>
trinity_help: while this is possibly the most efficient "key bruteforcer" for secp256k1 publi keys available, the search space is still too enormous to accidentally trip a collision.
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katu: understood
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<katu>
Luke-Jr: i believe it does, though not sure about compressed keys
<Luke-Jr>
katu: pretty sure I personally contributed compressed-key support years ago
<katu>
the guy who wrote the thing, thepiachu. maybe he didnt want to get embroiled in the flaming surrounding p2sh back then ;>
<Luke-Jr>
samr7 = thepiachu?
<Luke-Jr>
and no, he wanted me to rewrite it to use blockchain spam
<katu>
:)
<katu>
samr7 is only maintainer, or alt account, god knows
<katu>
but is listed in the official thread so i trust it
<Luke-Jr>
anyhow, thepiachu clearly doesn't care about getting embroiled in flaming, considering all the trolling and scamcoin pumping he's been doing
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<katu>
i thought this is a technical channel :) but agreed, various oldtimers have .. various motivations.
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<Luke-Jr>
well, technically this whole conversation is off-topic, as this is a future-technology channel :P
<katu>
Let's discuss future of vanity addresses instead!
<Luke-Jr>
there's no future for a deprecated concept
<trinity_help>
Luke-Jr: what's deprecated about it?
<Luke-Jr>
#bitcoin ?
<katu>
honestly, i share a bit of trinity_help's worries. that vanitygen sufficiently powerful enough might trigger uber rare, but withn realm possibility fixed point in ripemd160
<katu>
and second attempt to generate the prefix would yield same hash (different pk)