#ruby-lang on 2013-02-15 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-02-10 21:45 drbrain_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 1.9.3-p385: http://ruby-lang.org (ruby-2.0.0-rc2) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

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00:29 <zenspider> manveru: probably! I'd be totally open to that patch

00:29 <zenspider> sorry I didn't see this earlier

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00:32 <zenspider> manveru: I think you'd just want a method that asked for the raw bitmap and dupe'd it, no?

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00:32 <masterkorp> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a6mw2dqn-8c/UQ2Eko_Eh8I/AAAAAAAAAes/KGxoX63W6pA/s1187/IMG_20130202_160956.jpg

00:33 <masterkorp> figure out the unstuck algorithm

00:33 <zenspider> ruby can't help that situation

00:34 <masterkorp> trow("Back winch")

00:35 <zenspider> minitest version 4.6.1 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/02/minitest-version-4-6-1-has-been-released.html

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00:39 <darix> zenspider: you are in a release spree again?:)

00:40 <zenspider> just a couple

00:41 <zenspider> RubyInline version 3.12.1 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/02/RubyInline-version-3-12-1-has-been-released.html

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00:42 <zenspider> sexp_processor version 4.1.5 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://bit.ly/UkGPQG

00:42 <zenspider> there... done

00:43 <darix> when i looked in last night you were releasing too:)

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00:43 <darix> i will update the packages after sleeping

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00:49 <zenspider> did I release something yesterday/

00:49 <zenspider> oh right. flay and flay-persistence

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01:07 <zenspider> I need a new project

01:07 <zenspider> what's the state of MIDI on ruby (on osx)?

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01:11 <RickHull> archaeopteryx comes to mind http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/2008/02/archaeopteryx-ruby-midi-generator.html

01:13 <oddmunds> it's pretty old, though

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01:13 <oddmunds> zenspider: i've used some midi thing that (if i rember correctly) worked out of the box on both linux and windows.

01:14 <oddmunds> chances are it works on osx too

01:16 <zenspider> oddmunds: remember what it is?

01:16 <oddmunds> no :)

01:16 <zenspider> I've used midiator in the past, but it is EOL'd

01:16 <zenspider> unimidi seems like the replacement... but I didn't have luck last time I tried it

01:16 <oddmunds> it might just be called midi or something

01:16 <oddmunds> or unimidi

01:16 <oddmunds> :/

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01:17 <banisterfiend> zenspider: can u explain this bug https://github.com/seattlerb/minitest/commit/d31618a6bc0472cafc4e0dbd697ac56068ea356a

01:18 <banisterfiend> i dont see what process_args could do such that the original code is broken but the new code works

01:18 <banisterfiend> curious

01:19 <zenspider> banisterfiend: sec

01:20 <zenspider> banisterfiend: https://github.com/seattlerb/minitest/issues/240

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01:20 <zenspider> you really can't understand the bug by looking at the patch... which is what makes this so. fucking. stupid.

01:20 <zenspider> needless to say, I'm a bit pissed

01:20 <zenspider> and, using your parlance... a bit pissed because of it :)

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01:22 <RickHull> oh wow, self.options lazy initalize

01:22 <banisterfiend> zenspider: ah interesting

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02:36 <rking> Where does 'def options' happen?

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02:38 <rking> Oh, minitest/unit.rb

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04:45 <rking> Surely there's a cleaner way to do this: http://jacobswanner.com/2012/07/21/ruby-1-9-3-p194-with-perf-patches.html

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04:46 <rking> I can't put "curl this gist into sh" in a frickin install doc.

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06:59 <manveru> zenspider: yeah, pretty much all i need

07:00 <manveru> we're using rmagick only for a single resize in memory... huge waste :P

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08:26 <chekcmate> Guten Morgen die Herren!

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08:42 <darix> moin chekcmate

08:42 <chekcmate> hi darix

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08:56 <yorickpeterse> morning kids

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09:43 <judofyr> morning yorickpeterse

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10:04 <injekt> moin

10:05 <chekcmate> :>

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10:29 <injekt> :<

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10:30 <rue_XIW> Right-associative

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10:35 <yorickpeterse> =>

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10:41 <sush24> Hi, I'm getting an error Net::IMAP::ResponseParseError: unknown token - "{14652}\r\n" .. for an UID fetch of ["BODY.PEEK[]", "FLAGS", "INTERNALDATE", "ENVELOPE"]

10:41 <sush24> Any ideas? Alt-n Mdaemon Mail Server

10:41 <sush24> it seems to works everywhere els

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11:24 <jasiek> is there a validating RSS feed parser for ruby?

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11:39 <whitequark> jasiek: nokogiri + RSS DTD

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11:50 <soahccc> I would like to refactor my Enumerator. Before making it a bit more cleaner I would like to know if I have to take care about something important concerning the merging of enumerators (which might will make my map_with_position thought obsolete I guess) @L119 => https://gist.github.com/2called-chaos/cbee24bc2e1a2340e002

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12:59 <chekcmate> again that eurovision song contest bullshit!

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13:03 <chekcmate> vicarious embarrassment at its finest

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14:09 <chekcmate> who broke dhcp?

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14:17 <chekcmate> what would judofyr say? Keep your cheap shots for monday.

14:17 <chekcmate> :)

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14:18 <chekcmate> oh well, at least internet works

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17:57 <whitequark> wow

17:58 <whitequark> found a bug in ARel

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17:58 <havenwood> whitequark: What kinda bug?

17:58 <whitequark> which is fixed by adding a `p' in the right place, with an operation which shouldn't have side effects at all

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17:58 <whitequark> havenwood: TypeError: Cannot visit Arel::Nodes::Union

17:59 <havenwood> :O

17:59 <whitequark> and if I add `p dispatch[object.class]' to visitors.rb:19

17:59 <whitequark> then it works

17:59 <whitequark> WTF

17:59 <whitequark> arel-3.0.2

18:00 <whitequark> I don't even fucking know how can I debug such crap

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18:01 <whitequark> havenwood: are you one of arel maintainers?

18:01 <havenwood> whitequark: nope

18:02 <eam> does ruby have any shorthand for file tests, like perl? Like if I want to say: if -d "/somefile"

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18:03 <eam> or is the shortest thing File.exist?

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18:04 <havenwood> eam: I don't know of any shorter sugar for File.exist?

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18:24 <injekt> test()

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18:25 <injekt> test '-e' file

18:25 <havenwood> injekt: wow, who knew? cool!

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18:27 <injekt> eh 'e' not -e

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18:28 <havenwood> test 'chucknorris', 'Vagrantfile'; #=> false

18:28 <injekt> havenwood: yeah it's one of the hidden gems I guess, i've used ruby for many years and remember it some time ago

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19:02 <freedrull> is that test ported from bash lol

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19:54 <sush24> i'm reading code from net/imap.rb .. I can't quite understand $~.end(0)

19:54 <sush24> Is it something to do with global vars?

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19:59 <ryanv-raptor> http://jimneath.org/2010/01/04/cryptic-ruby-global-variables-and-their-meanings.html

19:59 <drbrain> sush24: $~ is the MatchData for the last regular expression match

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19:59 <ryanv-raptor> I still think they're all there to appease the perl defactors

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20:02 <sush24> hmm.. I think that came from the index method

20:03 <sush24> still can't quite figure where $1, $2 came from

20:03 <ryanv-raptor> Those are the last capture groups

20:03 <ryanv-raptor> unless that isn't your question

20:03 <ryanv-raptor> $1 is the first group, $2 is the second, etc.

20:04 <ryanv-raptor> "hello 123" =~ /(\w+) (\d+)/

20:04 <ryanv-raptor> $1 => "hello"

20:04 <ryanv-raptor> $2 => "123"

20:04 <sush24> oh okk

20:04 <sush24> makes sense… probably from BEG_REGEX

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20:05 <sush24> i thought ruby was supposed to be "very expressive"

20:06 <sush24> this sort of stuff is hard to google too

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20:20 <mistym> sush24: For what it's worth, the ruby stdlib has some of the least "rubylike" code I've seen around ;)

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20:21 <drbrain> it was rubylike once upon a time

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20:23 <CoverSlide> there's still /myregex/.match

20:24 <CoverSlide> btw boobies in the example: http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/Regexp.html#method-i-match

20:25 <CoverSlide> the other syntax is more perl-like

20:26 <CoverSlide> im not a perl-head so i use .match

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20:28 <drbrain> I'm not a perl person and I use regexp globals

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20:29 <drbrain> although named captures are much better

20:30 <ryanv-raptor> I think with the regex globals (and the =~ match syntax) your code makes more sense to non-ruby folks

20:31 <ryanv-raptor> most any sysadmin that i've ever met knows enough perl to understand it

20:32 <CoverSlide> i don't know any langauges other than perl that do that

20:32 <CoverSlide> pythoners i think would be more comfortable with match

20:32 <CoverSlide> javascripters

20:33 <CoverSlide> i'm sure java regexes don't use globals

20:33 <sush24> I'm down the rabbit hole trying to fix an error… Can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/N8cvur4D (I'm sort of a noob, see line 18 for the analysis so far)

20:33 <CoverSlide> so other than perl-heads, who would it make sense to?

20:33 <ryanv-raptor> that's what I'm saying, it makes sense to perl programmers

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20:34 <ryanv-raptor> I think a great majority of people have dabbled with perl (if they are from any sort of *NIX world)

20:34 <ryanv-raptor> people being programmers/admins, not the general population :)

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