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where can i find detailed diagramm on rubys object mode? the one with inheritance down to module and singleton objects
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it seems i'm not getting something. from what i see if i have two classes A and B < A and i define singleton method in A it should be accessible from Bs singleton class, right?
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according to this diagramm it is so
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or i'm reading it wrong :\
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according to irb it is, too :)
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thats a class method of the meta class you are calling
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class B < A; should_work; end
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chris2, i know it'll work this way, but if metaclasses inherit each other than it should work
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oh, wait, method of level 1 metaclass should be defined in parent level 2 metaclass. or am i getting this wrong?
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i think inside the <<self you are in class context
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of the metaclass
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but .foo is an instance method
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it indeed does work
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chris2 >
up to infinity :)
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just use irb and the source code :)
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thats a "trial and error" way but i would like to understand why so. it seems i've finally put a puzzle together
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chris2, thanks for help
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Anyone know of a ruby framework with a gui built in?
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"module A ... def foobar puts "test" end end" ... when i never 'include' my module 'A', the method 'foobar' can't ever be called, right?
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Erlkoenig: You want "extend", I think.
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well i just wanted to know what happens to methods that are defined by "def foobar", and NOT "def A.foobar" - so they're not accessible via "A.foobar" and can only be used when the module is included... right?
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Erlkoenig: Can you make a 1-shot gist of what you're trying for here? I think I'm getting lost.
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i just want to understand how it works :D
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i just want to know what the "def foobar" -method-style is good for
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Erlkoenig: Well, that's an instance method. The "def A.foobar" (or, less redundantly, "def self.foobar") is a class method.
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rking >
Want me to elaborate more on that or are you asking a different question?
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but module's usually don't have instances?
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they are something like singletons, so there's not really a difference between "instance method" and "class method"
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rking >
Erlkoenig: Things that mixin modules can make use of those.
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okay, that's exactly what i wanted to know ;-)
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they're only for mixins
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Erlkoenig: Get rid of the 'self.' from your #blub method, and it works.
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well then "blub" will be an instance method, and therefore not accessible for "B.blubb"
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Erlkoenig >
but it's a video :o
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whatasunnyday >
Hi Everyone! I was wondering what's a good way to compare the execution time between two functions I have in ruby.
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whatasunnyday: look for benchmarking
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whatasunnyday >
cool TTilus
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whatasunnyday >
thanks
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TTilus >
stdlib has some basic tools
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TTilus >
and then there are a few profilers for more complex stuff
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yeah benchmarking turned out to be perfect
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whatasunnyday >
didn't need anything too complex
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whatasunnyday >
i appreciate that
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kitallis: :/
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kitallis >
steveklabnik: if that's because I sent you a ton of messages
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kitallis >
then, sorry
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how do others deal with object finalization?
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postmodern >
im working on some FFI bindings that deal with opaque structs, which i have to call a *_free function when finalized
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postmodern: I use ObjectSpace.add_finalizer for that
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postmodern >
Mon_Ouie, does the callback receive the actual object or just the id?
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Mon_Ouie >
Just the id. I make the closure that I pass have a reference to the FFI pointer (not the actual object, which wraps around that pointer)
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Mon_Ouie, ah gotcha
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Mon_Ouie: ;-)
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'alut matti ;)
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