DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #qi-hardware to: Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs and http://irclog.whitequark.org/qi-hardware
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<wpwrak> if you sign your binaries, people can verify that what they download comes from you. that's a good first line of defense.
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<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: worried?
<wpwrak> by the time you have reason to worry, it's too late
<DocScrutinizer05> hah
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<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: look at this for a nice example how to draw schematics that cause headache :-P http://wstaw.org/m/2013/11/15/plasma-desktopwI3743.png
<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: any idea why the placed MICP and MICN like *this*?
<DocScrutinizer05> they*
<DocScrutinizer05> also they use micamp2(TWO) for the first stage you see in that clip, and micamp1 (ONE!) for the second(!!) amplifier stage
<DocScrutinizer05> micamp1 is the usual 0/+20dB
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<viric> wpwrak: yes, crucial information should never get into a computer, in any case. :)
<viric> if you are targetted... I don't know if you can be careful enough against that, for a whole computer system
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<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: the usual explanation is "for historical reasons" :)
<wpwrak> viric: yeah. viric vs. NSA doesn't sound too good. but then, you can at least make it a bit harder for them. every obstacle is an opportunity to trip
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<viric> yes
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<pcercueiS2> larsc: I didn't thank you for the beer :)
<larsc> no problem. you got back without problems?
<larsc> or are you still in paris?
<pcercueiS2> I'm on the train
<pcercueiS2> I left Paris 20min ago
<pcercueiS2> it was scheduled for 8pm but I found one earlier
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<viric> wpwrak: in fact, I use rsa 2048 for certificates, and ECDHE (NIST) for the shared key. Not that insecure.
<whitequark> devil lies at the endpoints
<viric> yes
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<kyak> viric: sign the binary, sign the tarball as the best options. Or at least post a hash
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<apelete> mth larsc: g_ether gadget driver is loading by using the musb one -> http://paste.debian.net/66070/
<larsc> apelete: awesome :)
<apelete> larsc: don't know if it works, haven't tried to actually use it yet ;-)
<apelete> time to connect the nanonote to the computer via usb
<apelete> larsc: ok, let's say it's not quite ready for ethernet-over-usb yet -> http://paste.debian.net/66077/
<apelete> it seems like the kernel crashes as soon as the device is plugged into a host computer
<DocScrutinizer05> :-/
<apelete> that might come from interrupt handling I guess
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<apelete> irq and/or vbus hanlding in the glue layer; that's the parts I didn't put much thought into yet
<apelete> larsc mth: kernel seems to crash just by powering down the device -> http://paste.debian.net/66079/
<apelete> interesting
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