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<whitequark>
anyone here knowledgeable about metalworking/welding?
<whitequark>
because I just tried to fix a metal thingy and failed miserably
<whitequark>
also found out that my butane torch has enough power to melt copper, but if it's at least a little bit less thick than the one I need
<qi-bot>
[commit] David K
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<qi-bot>
Jon Phillips: Via @qihardware qihardware: Video drones fly and hover above the city creating ad hoc networks in a new form of noma... http://t.co/kT9tUbSK ( 185539602306699264@rejon - 57s ago via Ping.fm )
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<kristianpaul>
ergh i could reproduce that VID00003.MP4 file from rejon
<kristianpaul>
could not*
<rejon>
ok
<kristianpaul>
oh you here
<kristianpaul>
VID00002.MP4 seems ok, but the other well
<rejon>
ha
<rejon>
ok, I'll try a reupload of that file
<kristianpaul>
thanks !
<kristianpaul>
ISO: Unknown File Type Major Brand: MSNV
<kyak>
yeah, it's some recent change.. thanks to jow
<kyak>
and it also works :)
<viric>
mth: I let to you the fixing of the commit for the kernel, ok?
<mth>
viric: ok
<mth>
I don't understand his second comment though
<mth>
"And why this should be out of order case?"
<viric>
maybe it is not an English sentence :)
<viric>
out of order means that it does not work, isn't ti?
<mth>
it can mean that ("elevator out of order"), but it can also mean that things are done in a different order ("out of order execution")
<mth>
also, I don't know if "case" means "situation"/"instance" or refers to upper/lower case letters
<mth>
I mailed asking for a clarification
<viric>
perfect
<mth>
actually, why does the JZ4740 need a different address? is it implied by the hardware somehow or is it just a convention that the existing tooling uses?
<mth>
for Dingoo, I changed it because the existing boot loader required it, but I don't know if that address was originally picked at random or whether it was the only sensible option
<viric>
I think it's hardcoded in another place of the tree
<viric>
I recall little though.
<qi-bot>
[commit] Adam Wang: added libraries: nxp, diodes_inc; changed outlook same as datasheet as possible. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3a983ff
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<bartbes>
kyak: because of physfs? I'm pretty sure we've been building against 2.0.2 for a while now
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<DocScrutinizer51>
sigh
<DocScrutinizer51>
~cookie
<infobot>
Hey docscrutinizer51, zip 62433 is Hutsonville Crawford IL
<DocScrutinizer51>
~botsnack
<infobot>
DocScrutinizer51: thanks
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<DocScrutinizer51>
wpwrak: what's new?
<DocScrutinizer51>
and exciting
<DocScrutinizer51>
hmm, ok. so back to boring ClearCase mess, brunch break declared finished :-S
<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer: not much new and exciting, i'm afraid. oh, maybe from daily politics - argentina implemented a de facto ban on book and newspaper imports, basically as an overnight surprise. and lifted it a few days later.
<viric>
mth: so we'll have to investigate why I committed such a particular case for jz4740
<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer51: you seen the atheros/qualcomm article?
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: should work. You already has pygame as well I think. python has bindings for everything.. BUt why you would like to replace gmenu2x?
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: better integration: replace /usr/bin/gmenu2x with
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: /bin/bash ;)
<mth>
the plan we had for integration is to add a boolean to the icon info that indicates whether something is a console app or not
<mth>
and switch to a text terminal or not based on that
<kristianpaul>
zrafa_: i dont, i ask you about it :)
<kristianpaul>
zrafa_: i alredy replace by bash ;)
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: cool :)
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<mth>
larsc (or anyone else who knows the answer): is it safe to assume that if the RTC is taken from an external clock, it will either be 32 kHz or a frequency near that value?
<mth>
never mind, the issue only starts if RTC is over 40 GHz, which simply won't happen
<mth>
for some reason I thought it could wrap at somewhat realistic freqs
<viric>
a rtc at 40GHz may need einstein relativity correction
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<kristianpaul>
zrafa_: ha i just saw you mail about genode-fx ;)
<kristianpaul>
so it compile under linux without minor/zero modifications
<kristianpaul>
?
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: yes. Using sdl as canvas. You can build several targets
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: I just tried on my PC "make sdl"
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: (and tested of course)
<viric>
mth: for the patch, add also a comment of *why this address*
<viric>
otherwise it's quite a magic number for reasons out of the kernel tree
<mth>
oh, I already sent a new patch
<viric>
ah
<viric>
:)
<mth>
and I don't really know why
<viric>
ah you looked like having done a research, in your answer
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<mth>
I know that booboo's u-boot uses that address and that you adopted it for the NN as well
<mth>
since the original patch only forced it for the A320
<mth>
how does a computed load address even work, by the way?
<mth>
I don't think injecting it into the boot loader would be an option, since then you'd always have to replace boot loader and kernel at the same time
<mth>
but the alternative would be to have the boot loader figure out the load address at run time, which is extra overhead
<mth>
provided that the vmlinuz.bin image even has the desired load address in it in a way that is discoverable
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<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: I am downloading root.tar.gz from your host. Which has some tools for jlime and sie
<zrafa_>
kristianpaul: do you remember if you tried some test with fpga and your tools there?
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<Jay7>
hello, ppl
<Jay7>
just quick question
<Jay7>
do NN have 8Gb NAND flash?
<Jay7>
i.e. is it NAND and is it 8Gb? :)
<wpwrak>
Jay7: i'm certain it's NAND. but i think it's less (don't have a machine up to check). wikipedia says 2 GB.
<Jay7>
hm.. seems I confised a bit
<Jay7>
*confused
<viric>
mine, 2GiB
<viric>
mth: the load address is determined at mkimage, isn't it?
<viric>
I mean... there is the kernel start point. Then we make a vmlinuz, which has a specific load address. Then we make mkimage of that vmlinuz, telling to mkimage the same load address.
<viric>
no?
<viric>
or mkimage takes vmlinux, and it compresses it? Why did I want vmlinuz at all?
<DocScrutinizer>
whitequark: yes, very interesting
<zrafa_>
Jay7: wpwrak: if we need to check wikipedia to know the size of the nn nand then we are lost :)
<wpwrak>
zrafa_: well, the qi-hw wiki is a bit chaotic, wouldn't you say so ? :)
<wpwrak>
zrafa_: and the nand size hasn't troubled me yet, so it's not the sort if number i'd keep in my head
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<MabYwen>
zrafa: my nn has 10cmx7.5cmx1.7cm in size :-D