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<qi-bot>
[commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: new option -d (debug) to print MIDI messages we receive (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/571af6d
<whitequark>
a friend of mine wants to use some own NIH-syndrome-induced protocol for a wireless sensor
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<whitequark>
any reasons to convince him to use 6lowpan?
<wolfspraul>
he would probably not agree with your NIH-syndrome diagnosis
<wolfspraul>
if he likes he can come to this channel and we think about the pros and cons of rf options for his sensors
<wolfspraul>
I think he should go the shortest path to a working solution for him
<wolfspraul>
and maybe what he currently has in mind will do just that for him? don't know...
<whitequark>
wolfspraul: do you recall what I've said about russians and their English skills?..
<whitequark>
ahem
<wpwrak>
depends a bit on what platform he uses and how much work he plans to put into it. if it's a platform already supported by linux or contiki, then it should be easy. for some one-man diy project, of course, whatever works will do :)
<whitequark>
oh, he personally hates linux and likes RSX-11 a lot, but that's not the reason here
<whitequark>
he says that the standard protocols are bloated and not energy efficient, which I doubt, but I haven't worked with 6lowpan, for example
<whitequark>
(bloated as both in code size and packet size)
<whitequark>
and he needs guaranteed delivery for at least firmware upgrade
<wpwrak>
good luck with that ;-)
<whitequark>
(well, some of things he says about linux are quite valid. for example, the absence of async I/O)
<wolfspraul>
seems very opinionated
<wolfspraul>
in theory of course if he makes his own semiconductors etc he can implement all he wants in hardware and have the perfect energy efficiency
<wolfspraul>
28nm lithography of course
<wolfspraul>
:-)
<whitequark>
heh
<wolfspraul>
if he wants to get something working soon he will have to take a different path and reasoning
<whitequark>
he's not a fanatic, and actually he's kind of asked me for advice on what to use--he's not sure that the NIH route is the way to go
<whitequark>
now that I look at it, 6lowpan may be really bloated for this application
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<Artyom>
Kristianpaul hello! :)
<kristianpaul>
hi
<kristianpaul>
woakas: hey
<kristianpaul>
woakas: if you still interested in a nanonote with amazon it will be 94usd plus 40usd shipping handling with coordinadorausa
<woakas>
kristianpaul: yes
<woakas>
kristianpaul: you want one?
<kristianpaul>
woakas: i have mine,no more for now but i can give you mail for other guys interested..
<kristianpaul>
at least this time from the USA is cheaper than from Taiwan it seems