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[commit] Werner Almesberger: f32x/: renamed OpenWRT target from "ben" to "ben_openwrt" and added "ben_jlime" http://qi-hw.com/p/f32xbase/9019985
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[commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/atrf-txrx/atrf-txrx.c (enter_test_mode_231): clean up and exit on error http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/110d5ab
<kyak>
xiangfu: having fun with flite :) i noticed that playing the resulting file with aplay produces much better result than playing the output immediately
<xiangfu>
kyak: don't notice that.
<kyak>
hmm, ok
<xiangfu>
kyak: what is the text, you using in flite?
<kyak>
xiangfu: compare flite -t "test string" play.wav && aplay play.wav and flite -t "test string" play
<kyak>
the first one is much cleaner
<kyak>
no "jittering"
<xiangfu>
kyak: seems same here :), I can not find out the difference.
<kyak>
strange..
<kyak>
flite -t "this is just a test string" play && flite -t "this is just a test string" play.wav && aplay play.wav
<kyak>
maybe this way you can hear the difference?
<xiangfu>
kyak: sorry. still same here. with 2.6.32.25 kernel  image 12-14.
<kyak>
xiangfu: ok, don't bother! still sounds not bad with aplay
<kyak>
xiangfu: btw, it seems that "dialog" is also upstream
<Jay7>
yeah.. it really need player control buttons at some side
<Jay7>
or at least wheel+ok/cancel buttons like zauruses
<Jay7>
or remote control like some players have (via 4th connector on audio jack)
<Jay7>
4th ring even
<wpwrak>
these wheels are surprisingly expensive
<Jay7>
buttons are cheaper :)
<wpwrak>
the ben already has a ton of these :)
<Jay7>
no one is accessible when ben is closed :)
<Jay7>
at least 3 button needed: play/pause, stop, ff
<Jay7>
s/ff/next track/
<wpwrak>
yeha, it's not really designed as a media player
<wpwrak>
i.e., the dictionary shows :)
<wpwrak>
ild love to
<wpwrak>
get rid of the function keys, though
<kristianpaul>
touchpad !
<wpwrak>
wrong century :)
<Jay7>
trackpoint!
<wpwrak>
(the fn keys)
<wpwrak>
analog joystick !
<kristianpaul>
yeah fn are not good
<Jay7>
wpwrak: how to switch VT instead? :)
<Jay7>
openpandora have lot of joysticks :)
<kristianpaul>
too many
<wpwrak>
Jay7: (vt) have the fn keys as some key + modifier
<kristianpaul>
how old is qwerty
<kristianpaul>
?..
<wpwrak>
1878
<wpwrak>
(according to wikipedia)
<wolfspra1l>
wpwrak: lekernel and I had an excellent day at the reichl-emv.de testing lab!
<wpwrak>
wolfspra1l: so it is as good as it looks ? :)
<wolfspra1l>
for milkymist one, the tests went great, everything passed except for one test related to an ESD induced magnetic field
<wpwrak>
wolfspra1l: excellent. congratulations !
<kristianpaul>
quack
<kristianpaul>
:-)
<wolfspra1l>
and for that one, we already found a solution in the form of an additional shielding layer on the bottom of the case (under the pcb)
<wolfspra1l>
and, amazing, Berlin is like little China, we sourced a 0.2mm 99.5% aluminum foil, had it cut to 149x124mm, got 100 pieces for 25 EUR, all in 2 hours :-)
<kristianpaul>
That explaing why lekernel had troubles in 27C3 in some particular place?
<wolfspra1l>
only the holes were missing but we drilled them by hand
<wpwrak>
wow ;-)
<wolfspra1l>
roh will polish this improvement a little, but basically it's under control
<wolfspra1l>
and except for that all other tests passed
<wolfspra1l>
also, this must be the cheapest ce/fcc testing - total is only 450 EUR including report! :-)
<wolfspra1l>
and
<wolfspra1l>
it gets better
<wpwrak>
that's a very good result.
<wolfspra1l>
the guy has a whole daniel duesentrieb style lab, and sebastien will get access for 'personal research'
<wpwrak>
hey ! when's the next plane to berlin ? ;-)
<wolfspra1l>
I mentioned the ben-wpan project and he said sure he can help.
<wolfspra1l>
so as of right now, that's definitely the place I would first try to go to.
<wolfspra1l>
if roh is involved in the case, either roh or Sebastien can go there, with a little irc session on your end to back it up
<wpwrak>
perfect. ben-wpan will probably be more of a challenge, since it's designed to radiate stuff.
<wolfspra1l>
Sebastien also offered to go there with the ben-wpan, since he is interested to go to the lab anyway (some radar stuff he wants to do...)
<wolfspra1l>
absolutely no problem
<wolfspra1l>
as I had suspected, this guy is a really good source and if he and us stays around, I'm sure we will work with him more...
<wolfspra1l>
totally fits our style and culture as well
<wpwrak>
sounds wonderful
<wolfspra1l>
kristianpaul: I don't think the esd/field related bug we found is the same as the video-in issues Sebastien saw once (they went away the next day btw).
<kristianpaul>
oh, SAR research nice :-)
<kristianpaul>
greats news then :-)
<wolfspra1l>
yes I think so.
<wolfspra1l>
it was a long and hard day, but it was good.
<wolfspra1l>
we still need to improve the shielding solution a little, but more important is that all the other tests passed (quite a few...)
<wolfspra1l>
and we have a fully understood and verified solution for that one test that failed
<wpwrak>
excellent. now i have to figure our why atusd produces such an ugly spectrum. i was hoping it was me getting test mode wrong with the new chip, but atusb (with the 231) looks quite sane.
<wpwrak>
s/our/out/
<wolfspra1l>
wpwrak: btw, roh pushed the latest case dxf file, but he wanted to call the subdir 'cad' not 'cam'. oh well :-)
<wolfspra1l>
I still want to add a little more, for example a little description/documentation about this production process, as well as details for some of the parts, like screws, spacers, etc.
<wolfspra1l>
but most importantly the root dxf he uses for production is now published, and a little .svg assembly manual (ikea style) as well
<wpwrak>
(assembly manual) oh, very good !
<wolfspra1l>
yeah
<wolfspra1l>
it's great
<wolfspra1l>
some more info about specs of screws, spacers, etc. missing - will follow...
<wpwrak>
** (inkscape:8207): WARNING **: Unable to open linked file: /home/labor/Desktop/Kunden/Milkymist-Howto/Mm1_rc1_parts_on_pcb_farb.png
<wolfspra1l>
he :-)
<wolfspra1l>
roh: you there?
<wpwrak>
(in response to inkscape milkymist-assemble-howto.svg)
<wpwrak>
do the rubber feet go on top of the screws ? or are they located on the side of them ?
<wpwrak>
in the latter case, it would be clearer if they had their own dashed line
<kristianpaul>
If you remove the linked image is more clear
<kristianpaul>
yes rubber position is confusing
<kristianpaul>
guess is on top
<roh>
wpwrak: the rubberfeet are mounted diagonally to the center from the screws
<roh>
just like 1 or 1.5cm offset from the hole
<wpwrak>
roh: ah, good. makes them simpler. the drawing out be clearer if you added a dashed line and maybe even a dashed ellipse for their final resting place for them too.
<wpwrak>
s/out/would/
<roh>
wpwrak: will talk about that with my inkscape-operator