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<oliv3r> so what's this i read on hackaday? RIP C.H.I.P.?
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<KotCzarny> if it's old article, then yeah, wrong news
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<swiftgeek> april 3
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<KotCzarny> sad news
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<f11f12_> icenowy[m]: do you have a patch for the allwinner/phy-sun4i-usb.c (linux 4.15+) that lists the r40? I compared the datasheets from h3/a83t/... to the r40. I added a r40 entry myself and it shows up, but it needs debugging. I'd skip that if you have a patch :-)
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<icenowy[m]> f11f12_: I think it's merged into linux-next
<icenowy[m]> commit f3d96f8d23d8e6d0b7642ee946b9b2ac3418fb4d
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<ep_> hi everybody. any idea if there is a quadcore arm board which can be used without any binary blobs?
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<adj__> ep_, many
<adj__> i.mx6 based, for example
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<ep_> ah.. hi again adj__
<adj__> i.mx6 quad exists
<ep_> you mean the freescale stuff
<jonkerj> depends on what you want to use it for
<jonkerj> if by 'used' you mean 'everything, except video/3d', allwinner h3 will do
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<ep_> im (still ^^) planning to run some "secure" boards. 100% free. without any blobs. on freebsd if possible and/or linux-libre
<jonkerj> still depends on what you want to run on your boards in terms of applications
<jonkerj> if CLI is good enough, you don't need video/3d, so you can ignore blobs for that
<jonkerj> if you don't need wifi, you can ignore wifi firmware blobs
<ep_> CLI freebsd, samba, https, some cronjobs for instance
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<jonkerj> really don't know how bsd support is for allwinner (maybe there is a #bsd-sunxi), but sounds like h3 will do the job blobless for you
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<ElBarto> ep_: if you want freebsd info ask me, I'm the one working on it with kevans91
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<jonkerj> my guess would be that at this moment linux support for quad core sunxi is better than bsd
<ElBarto> and as jonkerj said no blobs needed if you don't need video
<ElBarto> that is on linux mainline or freebsd
<ElBarto> jonkerj: could be
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<ElBarto> jonkerj: but better for what ?
<jonkerj> very good question, that's what I tried to ask ep_ ;-)
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<ElBarto> don't mind me, I know that mainline linux have better support for sunxi in term of drivers
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<ElBarto> but it all depend on what you want to do
<jonkerj> yeah, bsd is better suited for some jobs than linux and vice versa
<jonkerj> don't use a screwdriver if you want to put a nail in the wall
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<ElBarto> yup
<ElBarto> there is good things everywhere
<ep_> the aim is to run a tiny https server which is rock solid and secure by blobless/free design
<jonkerj> well, a lot of ARM boards need blobs for some peripherals (mainly wifi/3d/video), but as long as you don't use that, you don't have to deal with those blobs
<ep_> afaik the linux kernel implements some nonfree drivers. therefore I ve tried to stick to *bsd
<ElBarto> and as long as it don't have sdio wifi no problem for freebsd :)
<ElBarto> ep_: not mainline (except for mali)
<ElBarto> but the blob isn't distributed
<ep_> it will be connected via ethernet and thats it :)
<ElBarto> there is just glue for it to work properly
<jonkerj> and you could argue that if 'secure by design' is something you want to cling on to, OpenBSD (https://www.openbsd.org/armv7.html) could be your tool of choice
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<mripard> ElBarto: not in the mainline kernel itself, it's in a separate project
<jonkerj> than obsd fanpeople consider themselves more secure than others
<ElBarto> jonkerj: don't get me started on that :)
<ElBarto> mripard: oh really ? I thought that at least some parts needed for mali was in mainline
<ElBarto> so it only need dma-buf ? you just load a kernel module and that's it ?
<mripard> ElBarto: the only thing there is in mainline regarding mali in the DT node
<Net147> mripard: need anything else before merging my sunxi-mali pull request?
<mripard> Net147: some time to look into it :/
<mripard> sorry
<ep_> i know that there is a difference between "open" and "free" as in freedom. from that perspective i'd prefer freebsd i guess
<Net147> mripard: no worries. just checking it hasn't been forgotten.
<ElBarto> ep_: that's not how it works, but again what do you want to do exactly ?
<ElBarto> ep_: I'm sure that some armbian distro will suit you, or freebsd
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<ep_> ElBarto, oh sorry.. i thought https server was enough as an answer :)
<ElBarto> well even a RTOS could do this job so ...
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<ep_> a second device should handle an usb disk with rsync
<ElBarto> ok so there is more :)
<ep_> kind of. the plan was to outsource every small task into a seperate device
<ElBarto> honestly go for what you feel confortable with
<ElBarto> and if you have problem with linux mainline talk here, if you have problem with freebsd talk here or in private with me
<ep_> tnx a lot ElBarto
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<jernej> rellla: H6-CedarC repository should be properly licensed now, which unfortunately means removal of VP9 code
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<rellla> jernej: it reminds me of the neverending story...
<rellla> at least the files are copyrighted until 2020 :)
<rellla> btw, vp9 code is still hosted on github...
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<jernej> how can you view it? by commit id?
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<jernej> or did I miss anything?
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