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<apo> weird client.
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<libv> wigyori: no, that's fine. i was just reminding you that very little actually was still needed to make these devices fully documented, which still is a bit of a rarity
<libv> more than half of the devices in the wiki are not fully documented/implemented. and then there are those devices which have only u-boot/sunxi-boards patches which we do not even know how to even identify
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<evilbanana> libv: interesting
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<Skaag> I think in the more recent 3.4.x kernel, something went wrong with the rtl wifi drivers...
<Skaag> I get a lot of reconnections with some "CRDA Database" stuff...
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<studentol> Hello everyone~ I used livesuit(linux) for burn image which one burn ok on windows7 to broad.But Livesuit tell me the image file is correct!
<studentol> And console print:
<studentol> You are running on Manjaro
<studentol> Load /opt/LiveSuit/bin/tools.scj failed
<studentol> LoadTools, LoadToolsPlug failed 203
<studentol> There is no tools.scj file at /opt/livesuit/bin/
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<studentol> Could anybody help me ?
<robincook> my experience is install a virtual and a windows inside, and then map the USB into the windows, then burn it via PhinexSuit .
<robincook> *virtualbox*
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<studentol> I do that too
<studentol> I have Vbox with win7 and use livesuit (windows). I map usb into virtual windows. But it does't work. I don't know why? But normal udisk do well.
<studentol> Did I have other way to burn uImage Script.bin u-boot into broad ? Could anybody give me some help?
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<vector80> studentol: I also experienced same issues with you, under linux, there is no way to use LiveSuit
<vector80> That is really really disappointing, I hate using fcking win7
<vector80> ssvb: Thank you very much, but honestly, I use 1200 for about 2 weeks under android, and it is interestingly stable
<vector80> shineworld, my best score with antutu4.3.3.APK is 9873
<ssvb> vector80: probably you just have not tried any really heavy workloads on it
<vector80> ssvb: antutu test must be applied on devices without any load
<vector80> Of course, it is questionable that antutu is a good test or not
<vector80> but antutu test have a feature called "Stability Test"
<vector80> and under 1200, it allways passes
<vector80> However, I am still thinking to use 1152
<vector80> How to define a safe value for android cpufreq....
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<vector80> ssvb: I also have a strange issue
<vector80> It is about a10meminfo tool
<vector80> I am running it under android
<vector80> and it gives dram clk as 360Mhz
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<vector80> But when I check script.bin under android, and convert it to fex via sunxi-tools, it shows 432Mhz
<vector80> How this can happen ?
<ssvb> vector80: maybe script.bin is not used for setting the dram clock frequency in android either?
<vector80> Where does 10meminfo read the values ?
<ssvb> vector80: directly from the hardware registers
<vector80> yes, I just see the source
<vector80> Let me clean whole uboot source of android
<vector80> and recompile everything again
<vector80> let ssee what happens
<rm> afaik it's boot0/boot1 that set up the DRAM freq
<rm> not even u-boot
<rm> or hmm
<rm> maybe that was about something else
<vector80> waww
<vector80> boot0 or boot1
<vector80> let me try that one first
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<rm> looks like many of the clock values are initialized before u-boot
<vector80> only removed boot0 and boot1.bin files
<vector80> recompiling again
<vector80> dram clock extremely effects antutu score
<vector80> when dram clk was 432,
<vector80> I was getting around 9700-9800
<vector80> now dram clk is 360Mhz
<vector80> and I am getting around 9100-9300
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<blsd> I've tried to build u-boot according to the instructions on linux-sunxi.org for cubietruck
<blsd> unfortunately it won't start, it timeouts on dram initialization
<blsd> anyone knows what's wrong?
<vector80> there should be one file called dram_boardname.c
<vector80> may be that could have an issue?
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<vector80> What I really feel sorry about is, it is wonderful that everybody have some idea about how to fix / develop / run linux on Aw Soc, but almost nobody know anything about android internals..
<libv> vector80: yes, because proper linux develop a clue, while android users....
<libv> blsd: what does the serial log state?
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<blsd> libv: U-Boot SPL 2014.04-10631-gfc51606-dirty (Apr 29 2014 - 12:43:19)
<blsd> DRAM:
<blsd> Board: Cubietruck
<blsd> and that's it
<blsd> but I've checked another board now and on the other one it works
<blsd> so it must be some issue with my board
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<libv> blsd: sounds like it
<blsd> libv: I noticed one thing
<libv> blsd: does this board work with a lower memory clock, does it work under android or with a cubietech image?
<blsd> it must be some kind of a race either in u-boot or brom
<blsd> because a "cold" start causes this issue, but when I press the hw reset button it boots
<libv> that sounds like a tough one to debug
<libv> blsd: are you certain that it is hw dependant?
<libv> if so, try playing with dram clocking and things
<blsd> libv: I was able to reproduce it once on the second board
* libv is not up to speed with what is possible there
<blsd> so it seems like a sw problem
<libv> once on the second board, but always on the first?
<libv> blsd: first, try lowering the ram clock
<libv> blsd: then, try an older version of our u-boot
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<ssvb> blsd: http://cubieboard.org/2014/01/13/upgrade-new-android-for-cubietruckv1-01/ says that there is a new revision B of the A20 chip, which is somewhat special
<ssvb> blsd: I don't know whether it affects non-android u-boot, just found this link and decided to share
<blsd> ssvb: both boards are the same revision
<blsd> I bought 5 boards at once and all of them are the same (I checked)
<blsd> ssvb: but thaks
<blsd> libv: what is weird is that u-boot doesn't use multithreading and the second cpu should be just looping, so my hypothesis about a race must be invalid
<blsd> it needs to be some hw issue then
<ssvb> blsd: then maybe it could be related to http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi/2014-05-01#7285257;
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<ssvb> blsd: it would be nice if you could quickly check whether changing the order of axp and dram initialization helps
<ssvb> blsd: need a patch for that?
<blsd> ssvb: I don't know u-boot so it would be convenient if you gave me one
<blsd> but I assume it's somewhere right in the beginning of main?
<libv> ssvb: are we supporting rev b of the a20?
<libv> that's the first time i hear about this though
<ssvb> libv: I have no clue and no rev b hardware, maybe we can ask Benn
<ssvb> blsd: will push it to my github repository in a few minutes
<blsd> ssvb: I changed the order of sunxi_dram_init() to be after all the axp ifdefs
<blsd> and it didn't help
<blsd> the problem is the same
<ssvb> blsd: ok, then it must be something else
<blsd> but it could be something in this function, because there should be a log on the console which doesn't appear
<ssvb> however initializing dram only after axp is more correct, at least theoretically
<ssvb> blsd: you can add a bunch of printfs in different parts of this function to see where exactly it fails
<blsd> ssvb: yeah, I will debug it
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<ssvb> oh, just checked the cubieboard u-boot repository to see if they have any extra patches and found this - https://github.com/cubieboard/u-boot-sunxi/commit/fb357b4e1f0792f9 :)
<ssvb> we need to do a more detailed review of the cubieboard u-boot and kernel forks to see if they are sitting on some fixes without sharing them with anyone else :-/
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<ssvb> blsd: any new findings debugging the dram initialization?
<blsd> ssvb: right now I'm not working on it. I will in about half an hour and I will let you know about the results
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<ssvb> blsd: ok, there is no hurry, but just don't forget to share this information with the others once you have it :)
<blsd> ssvb: ok, it is also important for me to figure this out, so I will definitely try to at least find the place where it locks. If I have further questions I'll ask
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<vector80> ssvb: , and others, I have find the reason for DRAM_Clk in android
<vector80> the problem was not related to SDK or the board or anything
<vector80> the problem was Phoenix Suit program running on Windows
<vector80> When I reboot the program, it succesfully write correct values
<vector80> I mean, same IMG file
<vector80> but the results were different
<vector80> before I close and open Phoenix suit,
<vector80> whatever I compile,
<vector80> Dram_clk was reported as 360 allways
<vector80> Even I change it in the fex
<vector80> But after I close and open Phoenix suit again
<vector80> I updated same IMG,
<vector80> and it reported 432Mhz correctly
<vector80> So the problem was Phoenix Suit itself
<vector80> as I understand, it need to be restarted sometimes
<vector80> Have a nice Day !
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<libv> everyone believes that what the wiki says never applies to them personally.
<torindel> libv: most ppl are like "what wiki" ^^
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<codekipper> 10,000 units sold but no info here on the wiki!
<codekipper> re:a20 dev board
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<codekipper> who is buying these things?
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<Turl> codekipper: at times I wonder the same
<codekipper> Turl, just the person I what to chat with.
<Turl> :)
<codekipper> DMA on A10/A20.....it's been mentioned that you're doing this during Gsoc
<Turl> I need to leave in 5m but shoot
<Turl> yes
<codekipper> when is this?
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<codekipper> I'll have some time during July for helping out testing wise if you need it
<codekipper> I started looking at harmonising the 3,4 code but it was getting so messy in the code and in my head
<Turl> may 19-aug 18
<Turl> sure, that'd be great :)
<codekipper> that's a lllooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnggg summer
<Turl> I'll probably start these days now that I got less stuff to worry about
<Turl> haha
<Turl> it's actually winter here :)
<codekipper> Are you in South America?
<Turl> ok, gotta leave, ttyl :) feel free to /msg and I'll read later today
<Turl> yes, .ar :)
<codekipper> Looking out my window it looks like winter here
<codekipper> Will do...let me get on with getting this wifi working on my MK808 and I'll think of something later
<wens> 399 RMB on taobao
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<amitk> anyone know what "usb_recovery = 1" stands for in the fex file?
<syeekick> where would i get this driver from ? RT2870/RT3070 ... i can find it for ubuntu and debian but the architecture is x64 and x86.
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<tipolosko> hi
<tipolosko> i've usb problem with my mk802 II;
<tipolosko> days ago i've changed usb network card, thinking that it was causing most problem
<tipolosko> changed usb hub (yes, i need to use one, too much devices..)
<tipolosko> but under high loads i've observed some freezes
<tipolosko> After building rs232 interface and waiting for another freeze, i've seen that the mk802 isn't actually freezed
<tipolosko> but usb port was hung (where also usb and network card is connected)
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<tipolosko> i was able to login; he system was unstable but working
<tipolosko> obviously a reboot fixed the problem.. until next time
<tipolosko> Wondering if linux-sunxi 3.10 would help
<tipolosko> Background info: MK802 with all video options disabled (used as server), 5a power supply with wire soldered directly to the mainboard, 1x2.5 usb hd (system), 1x3.5 usb hd (data), usb 4 port hub, usb network card, usb dvb-s2 tuner card
<torindel> tipolosko: you're used externally powered hub?
<tipolosko> OS is debian, installed from here https://romanrm.net/a10/debian
<tipolosko> torindel: i've tried both an external powered hub, and an internal one
<tipolosko> same problem
<tipolosko> on the hub i have: the 3.5 hd (so not hub powered), network card (usb powered), dvb-s2 card (not usb powered)
<tipolosko> so basically only one device on the hub is bus-powered
<tipolosko> running lsusb on the "hung" system continued to display the correct devices
<tipolosko> so no devices disappeared
<rm> try a different USB hub
<rm> also you do need it to be powered
<rm> the 3.5 hd (so not hub powered) <- it may still consume some from USB
<tipolosko> rm: this is the 2nd one
<rm> also which USB port do you use on the MK802, not the OTG port by any chance?
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<tipolosko> i use two ports:
<tipolosko> the big one (standard usb socket)
<tipolosko> and the one on the other side, the small one (otg)
<rm> 2nd one, for what?
<tipolosko> the small one has the 2.5 hd connected
<rm> oh okay
<tipolosko> (system)
<rm> prepare it to have like 2x lower performance
<rm> prepare FOR *
<tipolosko> oh that port is slower?
<rm> yes
<tipolosko> mmm ok didn't know that
<tipolosko> (but i've noticed some difference)
<tipolosko> btw now my 1st issue is stability :(
<tipolosko> is that too much for the a10?
<rm> I did have some USB stability issues, USB with many devices connected to cheap chinese devices and cheap chinese hubs with everything using cheap chinese PSUs
<tipolosko> i've seen there is a separate branch for "usb-next" on linux sunxy website
<rm> ..is one word, "ugh"
<tipolosko> rm: so you have good performance with one good hub and some devices?
<rm> one thing I'd try in your case, ensure you use a good USB hub with a good PSU
<rm> get a 7-port one if you have to
<rm> and then just not use the OTG port
<tipolosko> i've changed psu from the last time
<tipolosko> built one myself, 5a.
<rm> also try without 1-2 devices
<rm> how often the problem happens?
<tipolosko> i think i'll buy a manhattan 7-port hub
<rm> also what do you mean by "high load"
<rm> CPU load or disk
<rm> or network
<tipolosko> well, in idle was up in days
<tipolosko> mainly happens with torrents (no 100% cpu) and big samba transfers
<tipolosko> i roughly get 1 day uptime before my girlfriend screams that "nothing is working!" :D
<tipolosko> i'll try without dvb-s2 board, but was always idle..
<tipolosko> so mainly network + disk (both with torrent and samba)
<tipolosko> the funny thing is that mk802 itself is solid; i can compile big softwares without issue
<tipolosko> today i've (tried to) compile mono svn
<tipolosko> no crashes so far with that
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<tipolosko> i use my mk802 as router, and doesn't crashes with only internet traffic done from clients
<tipolosko> i've also disabled swap, suspecting some mystic swap deadlock on usb (trying to swap to usb, when usb needs more memory etc..) very improbable, but i've also tried that :D
<tipolosko> rm: did you know if the port bounded to wifi is slower than the standard one?
<tipolosko> i could hack that to get another usb port
<torindel> tipolosko: for starters ensure its not power drop problem - ensure you power your usb devices from external 5v
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<tipolosko> torindel: i had a 7-port externally-powered hub
<tipolosko> but was giving the same problem
<tipolosko> so i've substituted with one 4 port (not powered, didn't have one powered at work)
<tipolosko> the same thing happens
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<rm> <tipolosko> rm: did you know if the port bounded to wifi is slower than the standard one?
<rm> should not be
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<tipolosko> oh, now i remember: last time that happened was using readpst to convert a big Microsoft Outlook PST file to mailbox
<tipolosko> between the two usb disk
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<tipolosko> so no intense network activity
<tipolosko> but a lot of i/o from usb
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<tipolosko> can anyone suggest a "known good" usb hub? Just to be sure..
<tipolosko> planning to buy this, hoping doesn't give problems.. http://www.amazon.com/Manhattan-7-Port-Windows-compatible-161039/dp/B0035LXOPY
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<rm> it does not seem to be powered
<tipolosko> "Versatile bus or AC powered with over-current protection; hot-swappable"
<tipolosko> should be..
<rm> oh, noticed the PSU socket now; but it does not seem to include one
<rm> also the flat USB cable does not inspire confidence
<tipolosko> i've seen one very similar where i work, and seems to include one (but obviusly sold out when i need one :D)
<tipolosko> mmm i agree
<tipolosko> i'll try to find a better one
<tipolosko> and hope it solves the issue
<tipolosko> otherwise don't know where to look
<rm> also it's just too expensive
<rm> you can get an USB 3.0 hub on Aliexpress for cheaper
<tipolosko> the cheaper one are.. too much chinese ?
<tipolosko> searching there
<rm> but I can't find one with an AC adapter included
<rm> too much chinese ? <- entirely possible, but also the Amazon one is chinese too
<tipolosko> seems ok, but all these switch scares me
<tipolosko> comes with the same stupid cable, altough i can buy a better one after
<tipolosko> could this list help in my research? http://elinux.org/RPi_Powered_USB_Hubs
<tipolosko> this was the powered hub i was using before http://www.ebay.it/itm/New-7-Port-USB-2-0-LED-High-Speed-HUB-Powered-AC-Adapter-/271207911316 (sorry, italian page)
<tipolosko> the old one was getting really hot, i've also added heatsink to the two ics
<tipolosko> this stays cold, but the wire is very thin
<ccaione> moin
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<Tipolosko_> another crash
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<Tipolosko> i've captured kernel messages
<Tipolosko> shell was idle at line 9
<rm> do you have a non-ASIX NIC?
<Tipolosko> had replugged the asix one
<Tipolosko> because i had hangs also with the non-asix one
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<Tipolosko_> Another crash
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<Tipolosko> plugged non-asic card now
<Tipolosko> let's see
<Tipolosko> asix
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<Tipolosko_> :'(
<Tipolosko_> another crash, with non-asix network card
<Tipolosko_> same log as before
<Tipolosko_> all with samba transfer
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<Tipolosko> re
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<mnemoc> just for the sake of discarding problem try ssvb's lima-memtester
<oliv3r> has any of the lima stuff been released yet?
<oliv3r> and hi :)
<mnemoc> hi oliv3r. i don't think so, but i've been VERY disconnected
<oliv3r> as have I!
<oliv3r> so that makes two of us
<oliv3r> have you seen olimex's new a20 SoM?
<oliv3r> it's not OSHW :(
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<mnemoc> uh, an A31 devkit for $70 in cnxsoft
<Tipolosko> mnemoc: i'll try, thank you
<Tipolosko> mm seems that i'm unable to use lima-memtester
<Tipolosko> my kernel is compiled without graphic support
<Tipolosko> going with memtester
<ssvb> Tipolosko: ordinary memtester very likely will not find anything interesting
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<syeekick> you reckon its worth downloading all the repositores collection of pakages incase something gets pulled form the repos?
<syeekick> have like an offline storage of them
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