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<gzamboni> mripard, thanks for the SPI patches :)
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<hno> oliv3r, and anyone else listening. Please test current u-boot. Just merged v2014.01
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<lioka> hno: hmm, i've had successfully built tree at af9f4057a5919f32bd8aa1ab62fa706962879278, three commits before merge
<lioka> hno: now i get:
<lioka> /usr/bin/ld.bfd: u-boot: could not find output section .gnu.hash
<lioka> /usr/bin/ld.bfd: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output
<lioka> on every sunxi board
<lioka> with same toolchain etc
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<hno> lioka, ok. I'll look into it shortly. Still finishing up the merge into sunxi-patchqueue.
<hno> if you or anyon else have time to look into it meanwhile please give it a shot. Some hours of patch juggling left in sunxi-patchqueue.
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<idella4> can someone assist with kernel config of next kernel, cb2?
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<hno> ok. mostly done with patch juggling now. Remaining diff is: 4 files changed, 90 insertions(+), 122 deletions(-)
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<hno> mostly done with first the first step of cherry-picking over changes that is.. remains to squash and reorder into sensible order.
<hno> lioka, seems to build fine for me..??? Maybe you need to "make distclean"?
<hno> tried both Cubieboard2 and Cubieboard2_FEL
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<hramrach> hello
<lioka> hno: nope, clean checkout
<lioka> hno: seems commits in mainline between 2014.01-rc1 and 2014.01 and touching arch/arm/config.mk or arch/arm/cpu/u-boot.lds were ignored in sunxi
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<lioka> starting from 47ed5dd031d7d2c587e6afd386e79ccec1a1b7f7 and few later
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<lioka> hno: and probably our toolchains have different defaults for hash-style
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<hno> lioka, which toolchain are you using?
<hno> Is it the SPL that fails linking?
<hno> because normal u-boot is not using a special lds file, only SPL and FEL binaries do.
<jelly-home> oh btw... that A23 tablet that looked too cheap to be true was indeed too cheap to be true. The scammer's business model is a bit interesting, relying on automated acceptance of first offered dispute solution
<jelly-home> aliexpress provided a full refund.
<jelly-home> scammer wanted to refund just the shipping costs, and that would have been accepted if the buyer didn't respond in 5 days
<hno> jelly-home, was there anything shipped?
<nabblet> hi, is sunxi based on linux kernel 3.4 ?
<jelly-home> hno: They claimed it was and provided an invalid CN post tracking number. I believe they never shipped a thing.
<hno> nabblet, our 3.4 kernel is based on 3.4 + android support + a bit more..
<nabblet> hno: if you try to get your changes to mainline, will they be merged to 3.4 mainline?
<jelly-home> hno: near the end of dispute, they claimed it got shipped to wrong address and got back to them. Using China Post, shipping to SE Europe (Croatia) and back. Under 15 days.
<hno> nabblet, no. The mainline efforts always go into current development mainline.
<nabblet> hno: ok, so how do you keep up with the development of mainline?
<hno> nabblet, what do you mean?
<nabblet> maybe i have the wrong idea but if you want to commit to current mainline your changes should not base on a non-current version.
<hno> everyone working on mainline support is working relative to current mainline, and submitting patches to current mainline.
<nabblet> just right off: i have enough knowledge about this to get the wrong ideas, but to little to get the right ideas :P
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<hno> it's pretty much different tracks working on the 3.4 kernel or mainline. They share very little in the sunxi parts.
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<nabblet> ah ok.
<nabblet> so if there is something for mainline it will be sunxi -> sunxi-mainline -> mainline
<hramrach> hmm, I wonder how far is lima right now? how was the fosdem demo?
<nabblet> more or less?
<hramrach> also somebody here talked about old sun3i devices being hacked on some time ago
<hramrach> are there any kernel sources and stuff?
<hramrach> and especially u-boot sources. We do have kernel sources of sorts
<nabblet> hno: oh i think i understood that wrong.
<nabblet> hno: so sunxi and the mainline-effort people are quite independent?
<nabblet> s/people/efforts
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<cubear> Is there a way to add an external antenna on cubietruck?
<hramrach> no
<cubear> bleh
<hramrach> well, perhaps with a soldering iron
<hramrach> WiFi is the metal covered chip. right?
<cubear> There could have been an iOEX connector at least :(
<cubear> iPEX*
<hramrach> there does not seem any connector near that other than the GPIO one
<cubear> well thats why I'm forced to use an external wifi card
<hramrach> there could have been many things
<hramrach> but it's not like the PCB space is infinite and the connectors free
<hramrach> iPEX is the small thingy they put on mini-PCIe cards?
<cubear> yes
<cubear> it's also called u.fl I think
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<cubear> Okay, looking at my cubietruck I take it this metallic chip is the bt/wifi.
<cubear> I can't even see the PCB antenna
<hramrach> well, you could probably fit it somewhere near the screw. I think the antenna is the larger SMD part near the edge
<hno> nabblet, at the code level yes.
<hno> but many persons is working on both trees.
<cubear> that black thing?
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<cubear> I wonder, if this can be replaced
<hramrach> yes, black on top and metal on sides
<nabblet> hno: sure. so what is the plan for linux-sunxi? stay on 3.4?
<hramrach> anything can be replaced with a soldering iron ;-)
<cubear> Interesting, I haven't seen an antenna like this before
<hramrach> but I am not quite sure this is the antenna. Just recall that a part looking like this was markes as antenna on some pictures of other boards
<cubear> Having dealt with some routers and openWRT, most of the PCB's had some copper layout for the antenna part
<hramrach> takes more space but the routers tend to have enough of that
<cubear> I'll need to check the datasheet for this
<hramrach> also check the writing on the part
<hramrach> there *is* something written on it but I cannot read it clearly
<cubear> I can't read it
<cubear> AA929?
<cubear> that's the larger text on the outer edge
<hramrach> there is a name also
<cubear> uniciran?
<cubear> something like that
<libv> jelly-home: :(((
<cubear> UNICTRON502216
<cubear> page 6
<hramrach> there you have it
<hramrach> so you can probably desolder that and put in a connector if you trust your soldering skills
<lioka> hno: native 4.7/4.8. full build log for cubietruck if you interested:
<lioka> as you can see, it's u-boot and it's actually using lds
<cubear> I'm not sure whether a standard 2.4GHz antenna is compatible with this layout. It needs to be connected to both pins - ANT and ground. This SMD antenna is only connected to ANT, but no ground.
<atsampso1> that's because it's placed next to an appropriately-shaped chunk of ground plane...
<atsampso1> have a look at the datasheets for the similar ones from Vishay: http://www.vishay.com/chip-antenna/
<atsampso1> (it's not really an "antenna", it's a matching network for a PCB trace)
<cubear> atsampso1: thanks for the link, that explains a few things
<cubear> hmm, looking at the cubietruck hardware datasheet it looks like there are two caps and an inductor before the antenna, but looking closer at the actual PCB, the caps seem to be missing
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<sehraf> q
<sehraf> sry false chat
<nabblet> hno: will linux-sunxi stay on 3.4 then? or will you merge in changes from current later?
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<amx> hramrach, do you have a sun3i device?
<amx> there is an older branch of sunxi-linux that contains sun3i code
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<CaptHindsight> cubear: you can try a few external antennas and see it they work well enough for you
<CaptHindsight> most cheap internal "antennas" use in wifi/bt designs just radiate or leak
<hno> nabblet, there is also a 3.10 tree that we try to get to, and when maninline is good enough many will go there instead.
<nabblet> hno: ok
<hno> lioka, there is always an lds when linking u-boot, but there is no special lds in sunxi for main u-boot.
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<hno> lioka, can you build other armv7 u-boot boards?
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<lioka> hno: tried hummingboard_solo; failed both in sunxi and mainline 2014.01
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<lioka> hno: adding --hash-style=sysv to LDFLAGS_u-boot fixes things for me.
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<oliv3r_> hno: ok will build latest u-boot tomorrow and test on cb3, cb2
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<Wizzup> this cubieboard a10 seems broken, on boot it shows uboot version, board name and then DRAM: <stops>
<Wizzup> What's weird is that is says Cubieboard2, even though it has an A10...
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<Dolence> hi :)
<Dolence> anyone had success running xbmc + hardware acceleration udner linux on A10 devices?
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<Nyuutwo> Wizzup: have you cubie1 spl installed?
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<lioka> hno: tested on hackberry and cubietruck
<Turl> Wizzup: that means you got the wrong uboot...
<Turl> it's not broken
<Wizzup> Turl: yeah, I just figured that out :)
<Wizzup> Silly me, but I expected it to at least print that it was booting from sd card
<amx> I just executed my first own code on the f1c100 ;-)
<Wizzup> I didn't know it doesn't print anything before booting from sd card
<amx> Wizzup, this is also true for the f1c100
<Turl> Wizzup: you see 'u-boot spl blah blah' as first line
<Turl> that's from your sd card
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<Dolence> sorry, I was testing
<Dolence> I downloaded this debian image http://linux-sunxi.org/More-images
<Dolence> xbmc run...
<Dolence> 1080p avi video sample (big buck bunny) reproduces just fine
<Dolence> wonderful
<Dolence> but almost all my mkv videos, no joy
<Dolence> choppy playback, artifacts, screens turns pink
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<Wizzup> Turl: yes, indeed, but I didn't see anything before it
<Wizzup> which is why I assumed it was not sd card
<Wizzup> I was obviously wrong
* Wizzup feels stupid
<Turl> Wizzup: anyway, now you know :)
<Wizzup> yep
<Wizzup> u-boot compilation fails, any hints? http://bpaste.net/show/181972/ (this tool chain worked fine for: cubie2, beaglebone black, chromebook)
<Wizzup> this is for cubieboard1, used the right config
<Turl> I think someone else was reporting that same thing earlier today after hno merged some stuff
<Dolence> Turl I'm sorry, but do you know if anyone else working on it? rella fork is not being updated for months, and as I said, it seens to work with just some few files from my library
<Dolence> vidon.me seens to be based on our beloved A10
<Dolence> but they seen to be ignoring GPL
<Wizzup> Turl: I also don't mind going back a commit or two
<Turl> Dolence: empat0?
<lioka> Wizzup: 20:42 < lioka> hno: adding --hash-style=sysv to LDFLAGS_u-boot fixes things for me.
<Turl> Dolence: most of the efforts from video people these days are in reverse engineering and vdpau
<Dolence> I see...
<Wizzup> lioka: will try,ty.
<Dolence> I will try building empat0
<Dolence> vidon.me is a $#@!
<Dolence> it's not like theft?
<Turl> I don't even know what vidon.me is
<Dolence> they made a xbmc box running under A10
<Dolence> using empat0 or soemone else GPL code as base
<Dolence> but they dont give sources
<Turl> looks like A20/A31 judging by their site
<Turl> unless it's some other box
<Dolence> other box, I think
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<Wizzup> lioka: that helped
<Dolence> well, ty for the help
<Dolence> I have to go
<Dolence> see you, thanks
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<rellla> solves osd problem in VDR :)
<rellla> next: improve performance ;)
<jemk> rellla: :)
<jemk> rellla: that happens when one doesn't follow the spec but follows what mplayer does...
<rellla> jemk: it works initially, so perhaps more people can be gathered around vdpau. i'll look into it later. thanks for fixing it! bbl
<memleak> what is the CEDAR driver for if you use MALI?
<memleak> CEDAR meaning the kernel video driver in "multimedia" not the radeon HD GPU ;)
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<jemk> memleak: mali is for 3d acceleration, cedar for video decoding
<memleak> MALI doesn't do hw-accel video decoding? That's a first!
<Turl> memleak: want a second? mali doesn't handle video outputs either!11one
<Turl> :)
<memleak> that actually is a second!
<Turl> memleak: you'll need to forget about the "gpu" concept from the x86 world
<memleak> yeah i'm normally doing x86 kernel development, it's my second real whack at ARM in awhile
<Turl> memleak: GPUs here are fast 3D thingies, and just that
<Turl> for video you get a VPU, and to push the generated bytes into a HDMI monitor or whatever there's a separate display controller
<Turl> and for 2D blitting and stuff you get a 2D engine
<memleak> thats G2D right? in drivers/char?
<Turl> yes, that's G2D
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<Hdr33> Hi all :)
<memleak> hello!
<Hdr33> How are you ?
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<memleak> good!
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<Hdr33> I have question
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<dmesg> good afternoon. I just installed a Cyanogenmod rom on my Hackberry A10
<Hdr33> on A13 alwinner : we can add usb host ?
<Hdr33> dmesg: good !!!
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<dmesg> The speed is awesome, but the wifi driver doesn`t work. I opened the filesystem from a Debian installed in the SD card and, put the module inside /system/lib/modules. Then i gained root in the android terminal and did insmod /system/lib, etc, etc
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<plaes> Hdr33: depends on the board
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<Hdr33> plaes: I have A13 olinuxino by olimex
<dmesg> but, the wifi driver doesn`t seem to work... Neither the ethernet one, so, i downloaded the hwpack for the hackberry A10 but, i don`t know how to install it into Android
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<dmesg> because the instructions seem to be
<plaes> Olimex has at least 3 different A13 boards
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<plaes> micro, regular and wifi
<dmesg> for other Linux, so, anyone knows a way to get my wifi working so i can turn my A10 in the Netflix client of my dreams?
<Hdr33> plaes: sorry, wifi (it's the same architectur than regular ?)
<memleak> netflix is very difficult to get working in linux
<plaes> Hdr33: it has 3 USB host ports
<memleak> a mix of user agent switching, getting pipelight to work, and among other things
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<dmesg> memleak: i know, that`s why i am using Cyanogenmod
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<Hdr33> plaes: exact, but i want to use GPIO than usb host
<memleak> ah i missed that part
<plaes> um?
<dmesg> memleak: help me getting the wifi to work :D :D
<memleak> sorry i don't like wifi..
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<memleak> nor bluetooth or anything wireless really
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<Hdr33> plaes: i thincking it's possible, yes ?
<dmesg> memleak: the ethernet doesn`t work either
<plaes> I don't really understand your idea
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<Hdr33> plaes: sorry, and i speack a very bad english..
<Hdr33> plaes: so, i want to use 2 GPIO pin ( +2 for electric alimentation ) like USB host
<plaes> ahh.. like differential pair?
<Hdr33> plaes: i read wiki :)
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<Hdr33> plaes: yes, like this
<plaes> it should be possible, though, I don't know which speeds are possible
<Hdr33> and if i connect usb key debian see this like usb key
<Hdr33> plaes:
<Hdr33> plaes: if it's slow it not bad too
<plaes> low speed usb is 1.5mbit/s
<plaes> I'm not really sure whether it's possible
<Hdr33> plaes: but how "build" it, i'll just modify script.bin ? or it's more complexe ?
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<libv> hrm... firefox os tablet from alcatel rumoured...
<libv> 1.2GHz dualcore?
<plaes> Hdr33: first you need to create a driver that handles the GPIO stuff
<libv> same as for their cheapest handset
<libv> mtk?
<Hdr33> plaes: Ok
<plaes> Hdr33: also, USB works at 5V (?) so you possibly need extra HW to handle level conversion
<Hdr33> plaes: on A13olinuxion i have 5v output
<Hdr33> so i use this
<plaes> GPIOs are 3v?
<libv> ah, no all qualcomm
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<Hdr33> plaes: maybe..
<libv> firefoxos is worse than windows phone
<Hdr33> plaes: and only with row add on script.bin ?
<plaes> Hdr33: probably
<Hdr33> plaes: Yes.
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<Turl> libv: they were working with A31
<Turl> I doubt they'll release a tablet in the short term though
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<hramrach> speaking of wifi antennas
<hramrach> is there some antenna you can place into a tablet that actually gets you some WiFi?
<hramrach> I have a Chinese tablet with a ffc antenna which has really poor reception
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<hramrach> but they do not look convincingly better
<hramrach> it may be in part caused by the antenna being sandwitched between the battery and the metal display cover
<hno> lioka, I meant if you can build some other non-sunxi armv7 board successfully.
<hno> from all what it looks this is a generic v2014.01 bug outside of sunxi.
<hno> lioka, Wizzup above lds patch applied and pushed. Please try again.
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<lioka> hno: yep, i've answered earlier, vanilla 2014.01 has same problem, i've fixed it with forced --hash-style=sysv, having upstream fix for this in sunxi is nice, thanks
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<hno> lioka, right you did. Misunderstood your answer at first.
<hno> And the fix is not upstream yet for some reason.
<hno> there was some discussion about it defining the scope to be arm build failure, and then all silence.
<hno> no + or -, just silence.
<hno> lioka, can you please try if other armv7 boards works in current u-boot master for you?
<hno> in case there has been another fix that I did not notice.
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<Seppoz> how can i get rind if the dual outputon lowvelv uart
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<memleak> heh Seppoz it is a bit annoying isn't it?
<memleak> The bracketed numbers on the side also get on my nerves
<Seppoz> how can i get rid of it
<memleak> do you get the numbers on the side as well?
<Seppoz> yes
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<Seppoz> but i also get double output
<Seppoz> i want to remove one of them
<Seppoz> i dont care which
<memleak> hmm not sure..
<memleak> i'm sure someone here does
<memleak> i'm working on my own kernel and u-boot trees to try and find out why weird stuff like that is happening
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<kenny__> I'm using hans u-boot-devel and trying to boot a legacy (original 3.4) uImage, but it hangs at Starting Kernel. Is there any other options needed after upgrading uboot?
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