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<libv> mele a1000 ndhed.
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<oliv3r> libv: \o/
<libv> i am not happy with the G version also being folded into the same page
<oliv3r> what was the diff again
<libv> anyway, standard A1000 external pictures will happen later today
<libv> 1GB, and thus a slightly different motherboard
<libv> plus, for A1000/A2000, it has 8GB NAND
<libv> mnemoc: is there a chance of getting access to sunxi-boards/u-boot-sunxi so i can commit the wexler tab?
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<oliv3r> libv: i thought you had that allready
<oliv3r> is there any easy way to take screenshots from/via fb0? i want to take a few screenshots from the fedora installer, so print-scrint might not work
<libv> oliv3r: fbcat
<oliv3r> awesome
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<oliv3r> looks like we don't have any HDMI sticks documented on our wiki?
<Wizzup> oliv3r: I think you can even just cat /dev/fb0
<Wizzup> at least for the raw data :)
<libv> well, fbcat at least figures out dimensions and such
<Wizzup> Yeah, that's nice :)
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<cubear> what's the current status of the sunxi 3.10 kernel? is it any close to replacing 3.4?
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<oliv3r> cubear: about 6+ months :)
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* atsampson peers at http://linux-sunxi.org/More-images and wonders why people use spamware hosting sites when archive.org's available...
<oliv3r> because that's well known and 'easy' to host big files i suppose
<oliv3r> though the 'good stuff' is usually hosted with sunxi anyway i think
<oliv3r> then again; we aren't hosting hansg's image either are we
<oliv3r> mnemoc: ^
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<mnemoc> oliv3r: I don't remember if hansg even has an ssh account in the sunxi.org server... he should
<Wizzup> What services does sunxi.org host?
<oliv3r> i always have o google for his image and the scot thing is down for weeks
<mnemoc> libv: can you check your permissions in https://github.com/linux-sunxi now?
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<mnemoc> Wizzup: wiki and dl.linux-suxni.org for static downloads... smtp-auth and ML are still incomplete
<mnemoc> Wizzup: the current mail stuff is been hosted by gzamboni
<oliv3r> mnemoc: yeah i'll try to find time for that soon; but with new job + book; there's little time left atm
<Wizzup> mnemoc: thanks
<oliv3r> bah, looks like there's no fbcat package for fedora arm
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<ccaione> oliv3r: try fbdump
<oliv3r> nope
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<ccaione> then cat or dd :D
<oliv3r> cat it will be :p
<oliv3r> lets hope gimp will open it :)
<Wizzup> no, it can't
<Wizzup> I tried
<oliv3r> what about imagemagick?
<oliv3r> mnemoc: :D
<mnemoc> there is a cleaner way using imagemagik's convert in the last comment
<oliv3r> First you’ll need to install Gimp 2 in your computer (Linux or Windows).
<oliv3r> First you’ll need to install Gimp 2 in your computer (Linux or Windows).
<oliv3r> oh
<oliv3r> heh
<oliv3r> neat hack cnx! neat hack!
<arky> sweet!
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<libv> mnemoc: thanks, pushed
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<mnemoc> :)
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<hno> oliv3r, just build fbcat. It's a trivial program witn no library dependencies.
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<oliv3r> hno: except for needinga compiler etc :p
<libv> oliv3r: cross-compile it?
<libv> as a static binary?
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<oliv3r> yeah i'm gonna do that, and then transfer it via usb stick i guess :)
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<Net147> is it normal that the X axis is reversed for the touchscreen when using evdev?
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<oliv3r> Net147: on the 3.4 kernel; there's a flag for specifically that in the fex config
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<Net147> oliv3r: it's just the X axis. the Y axis is fine.
<Net147> oliv3r: I am using resistive touch panel, rtp_para only has option to exchange x and y
<oliv3r> ah ok the capacitive has that :)
<oliv3r> erm, well looks like a X invert option needs to be added to the fex file toot hen
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<Net147> oliv3r: it all works out fine if you calibrate with tslib though. only matters if you read directly from /dev/input/...
<Net147> oliv3r: I take it the resistive touch panel requires calibration anyway as the values do not go to the min and max when you touch the edges of the panel
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<Net147> oliv3r: it looks like rtp_exchange_x_y_flag is validated but it isn't used at all in the driver
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* libv is now taking pictures of the lime
<libv> all on a camera phone, but better than nothing
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<mnemoc> libv: maybe Tsvetan can get us highres pictures of the lime for the wiki?
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<Tsvetan> mnemoc updated the image
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<mnemoc> Tsvetan: I believe libv wants a boring but high-res to mark certain blocks and pins
<mnemoc> where you can read the chips and the markings on the PCB
<mnemoc> Tsvetan: can you upload the original of that one? higher res and no drawings
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<Tsvetan> mnemoc done
<libv> urgh, edit conflict on the lime page.
<Tsvetan> just uploaded 3 pictures
<mnemoc> Tsvetan: thanks!
<mnemoc> libv: sorry :(
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<libv> ok, just the pictures got added.
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<Tsvetan> now you can see every component :)
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<libv> thanks, adding the pictures to the respun page.
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<libv> now with added case pictures.
<libv> do we have a oshw devices category?
<plaes> I think there was
<plaes> http://linux-sunxi.org/A13-OLinuXino uses [[:Category:Open Hardware|OSHW]]
<plaes> though it should be [Category:Open Source Hardware] or [Category:OSHW]
<plaes> yup
<libv> yeah, OSHW sounds like the ticket.
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<libv> http://linux-sunxi.org/A10-OLinuXino apparently never shipped...
<CaptHindsight> http://linux-sunxi.org/Category:OSHW_Abuse would this also cover hardware designs that have portions covered by patents? EOMA for instance. Where the reuse of the PCMCIA connectors were reported to be patented.
<Turl> libv: they got shipped with A20 on them
<Turl> CaptHindsight: I'd say patents are unrelated to OSHW
<Turl> just like there's free software to play MP3 and h264
<CaptHindsight> so as long as all the design files are released
<CaptHindsight> even if they do you little good
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<Turl> well that's my personal opinion, I'm no lawyer and I don't actively participate in the OSHW community :)
<CaptHindsight> just asking :)
<CaptHindsight> not setting policy
<Turl> CaptHindsight: EOMA wasn't OSHW yet either way
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<Turl> (and probably still isn't)
<libv> Turl: yeah, but the page probably needs to die
<CaptHindsight> then again, for ~$2K you would just make your own connector and case and not reuse the pcmcia
<Turl> libv: why so?
<libv> CaptHindsight: the iteaduino baseboard was shipped with the oshw logo on it, but until we complained, no cad files were available
<libv> Turl: because the board never shipped and i do not want to go NDH it
<CaptHindsight> figures
<libv> CaptHindsight: so this is why we added that category
<Turl> libv: it's good material for historical reference, even if not NDH'ed
<Turl> libv: if you NDH the A20 version though, we can just drop a note and a redirect :)
<libv> right, so keep it until a20 is in shape
* libv looks at the a20 board Tsvetan sent him
<libv> 2 mmc and 1 nand :)
<Turl> libv: so does my A10S olinuxino :)
<libv> :)
<Turl> libv: too bad it got obsoleted already :(
<CaptHindsight> there's so little on the Iteaduino UNO, that not posting files is similar to 2 + __ = 5, but I understand your point
<libv> CaptHindsight: the baseboard now has cad files, and that satisfies them carrying to logo
<libv> i will not add them to the oshw category, as it's only the baseboard that's oshw
<CaptHindsight> most of the CAD files I see I want to fix anyway before I'd use them, same as lots of source that you guys come across :)
<CaptHindsight> but if you let them slide an inch .....
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<bjoernb> hi
<ijc> Can anyone guess who the "certain vendor" Rob Herring referred to in his response to the u-boot AHCI thread is? I thought it was probably DesignWare but the code/registers doesn't seem to line up.
<bjoernb> i have a cubietruck and put linux on a sd-card. i tried booting from it and observe dhcp requests via lan but nothing happened. i attached the mini-usb-cable but it did not work for a serial console as i expected.
<bjoernb> i used this tutorial to put debian on the sdcard: http://blog.night-shade.org.uk/2013/12/create-a-bootable-sd-for-a-cubietruck/
<bjoernb> i build a rootfs with debootstrap and included the kernel modules from the lubuntu image, then used the linked uboot image and bootfs.
<libv> bjoernb: #cubieboard
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<bjoernb> libv: thanks luc.
<Turl> bjoernb: what did you expected to happen?
<ijc> Tur: synopsys == design ware I think?
<ijc> Turl: ^
<bjoernb> i did expect the device to boot and request an ip address over dhcp. but i listened via connected ethernet cable but there were no requests.
<Turl> ijc: yeah, Synopsys is the company I think
<Turl> bjoernb: you just said you saw the requests on ethernet? I'm confused
<CaptHindsight> Turl: nice list of cores. Does anyone know who they license them from or which ones are home grown? It's nice to see that they reuse much.
<Turl> CaptHindsight: the list is based mostly on guessing and comparing code
<bjoernb> Turl: i tried to listen to dhcp requests but did not see any.
<Turl> bjoernb: ah
<Turl> bjoernb: did you load the ethernet module?
<ijc> Turl: "Synopsys DesignWare SATA but PHY part maybe AW" would fit -- the thing looks a lot like a DW part but the PHY init stuff doesn't seem to hit with any other DW part -- so it would make sense for it to be an AW part
<bjoernb> Turl: lib/modules/3.4.61+/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/allwinner/gmac/sunxi_gmac.ko i did load this.
<bjoernb> Turl: actually i did copy all the modules via tar xvfz rootfs-part2.tar.gz -C $targetdir lib/modules lib/firmware using http://dl.cubieboard.org/software/a20-cubietruck/lubuntu/ct-lubuntu-card0-v1.00/desktop/rootfs-part2.tar.gz
<Turl> bjoernb: I don't mean copy
<Turl> bjoernb: I mean load, like modprobe
<Turl> or adding to /etc/modules
<CaptHindsight> I wonder if Tom Cubie ever noticed where they get some of the IP blocks
<bjoernb> Turl: i put sunxi_gmac into /etc/modules
<bjoernb> Turl: i am in cubieboard as well like you. should we switch the discussion there?
<Turl> bjoernb: same thing really :) it's on topic here as well
<Turl> bjoernb: do those modules match your kernel (uImage) exactly?
<bjoernb> Turl: how do i find out?
<Turl> bjoernb: did they come together in one bundle?
<Turl> otherwise it's a safe bet they don't match
<bjoernb> this bundle. i expect them to match
<Turl> should be ok then
<Turl> there's not much more we can guess then
<Turl> bjoernb: can you connect to the UART and see what's happening?
<bjoernb> turtu
<bjoernb> argh
<bjoernb> Turl: for uart i need some cable, no? the micro-usb does not do serial right?
<Turl> bjoernb: yes, a USB to UART thingy
<Turl> bjoernb: http://linux-sunxi.org/UART some info there
<Turl> you can also try your luck and connect a hdmi monitor, maybe you'll get something there as well
<bjoernb> Turl: if i had hdmi, i could.
<Turl> :)
<bjoernb> i try to set a fixed ip and try to connect to the device with the fixed ip.
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<bjoernb> Turl: it works. i reach it via fixed ip.
<bjoernb> from now i can work things out because i have a running linux machine. thanks for your patience and help
<bjoernb> bye
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<Turl> great
<Turl> see you :)
<bjoernb> does the lima driver support opengl or only opengles?
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<bjoernb> ok the cubieboard does only opengles as far as i read.
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<popolon> bjoernb, only few ARM SoC are able to do OpenGL and only announced 1 month ago
<popolon> else there are library that try to emulate OpenGL on OpenGL ES devices
<popolon> 2 or 3 I believe
<popolon> The first to do that, is dev of Xscreensaver, for port it's application and every modules on iOS
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<breeze7> I want to follow the instructions from http://linux-sunxi.org/Installing_to_NAND#First_MB, but I have no /dev/nand block device. What I have is only /dev/block/nanda|b|...|j . So where I can find the device for the whole nand?
<breeze7> My dump of partitions is:
<breeze7> root@android:/data/local # cat /proc/partitions
<breeze7> 7 0 4190 loop0
<breeze7> 7 1 45770 loop1
<breeze7> major minor #blocks name
<breeze7> 93 0 16384 nanda
<breeze7> 93 8 16384 nandb
<breeze7> 93 16 32768 nandc
<breeze7> 93 24 524288 nandd
<breeze7> 93 32 1228800 nande
<breeze7> 93 40 16384 nandf
<breeze7> 93 48 32768 nandg
<breeze7> Its a A13 Trekstor 4GB internal storage device.
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<breeze7> What I also can say is, that a dump with Uberizer Tool let me get a file dump with name bootloader.img which is exactly the same size as with doing a dd dump of /dev/block/nanda. They are 16M sized.
<breeze7> And byte compared identical.
<breeze7> Does this mean, that I can use nanda instead of nand block device to get the MBR ?
<breeze7> ... get the MBR from?
<breeze7> Does anybody has experience with Trekstor Surftab breeze 7" ??
<Turl> bjoernb: if you don't have /dev/nand you're using a kernel provided by allwinner
<Turl> err breeze7 , sorry bjoernb
<Turl> breeze7: you need to use linux-sunxi to get /dev/nand
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<breeze71> @Turl: When I use root@android:/data/local # cat /proc/devices then I get
<breeze71> Block devices:
<breeze71> ...
<breeze71> ...
<breeze71> 93 nand
<Turl> breeze71: read the clarification I added http://linux-sunxi.org/Installing_to_NAND#Prerequisite
<breeze71> @Turl: Ok. So I need to boot from USB or extern SD Card, right?
<Turl> yes
<Turl> sd card is the easiest
<breeze71> Thx!
<Turl> breeze71: as you mention you have some device I don't see on our wiki, we'd appreciate it if you could go through http://linux-sunxi.org/New_Device_howto
<Turl> breeze71: it'll help you get the things you need to make your sd card too
<breeze71> O.k. I will give my bests. But I am a novice! It could take time to write to the wiki. I will make a log for myself first and the port it to the wiki.
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<ccaione> oliv3r: which target do you use for crossdev?
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<ccaione> nvm using armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi
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<Turl> oliv3r_: it's been bad lately
<oliv3r_> aye
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<ZetaNeta> hi
<ZetaNeta> Does anyone got a ready image for inet97f?
<ZetaNeta> I really fail to even use the ready ones "just setup the bootloader"
<ZetaNeta> So i need one with a ready bootloader XD
<ZetaNeta> + USB Gadget (Serial)
<ZetaNeta> Ready images are mostly broken, and the "manual one"... i had some stuff laying around, but i am currently not ready for a second attempt
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<binaryferret> Hi ZetaNeta I don't, but have you tried Hans Fedora image?
<ZetaNeta> binaryferret, Fedora 8 "does not exist"
<ZetaNeta> and Fedora 9 are not working
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* ZetaNeta wonders why wiki is under CC
<ZetaNeta> CC is terrible
<ZetaNeta> Why not GFDL for example?
<ZetaNeta> The latter suits documentation more than some CC
<ZetaNeta> + CC actually, affect any image built by anyone reading this instruction
<ZetaNeta> And its quite hard to write a new material under a more suitable licence now. "As long as you know english, you wont understand how french people hear it"
<Turl> wut
<ZetaNeta> Turl, Just saying that WIKI is published under a retarded licence?
<Turl> ZetaNeta: why do you think so?
<ZetaNeta> I grew my hate to CC, back when i wanted to insert some CC module music into a GPL game
<ZetaNeta> Turl, 1) What i said about affecting every image
<ZetaNeta> 2) Its not really free.
<Turl> ZetaNeta: how does it affect every image?
<ZetaNeta> Its a work based on it
<ZetaNeta> And i dont really wanna include links and author names into my images XD
<ZetaNeta> CC was never meant for documentation
<ZetaNeta> "And you dont it wrong"
<ZetaNeta> s/dont/done
<ZetaNeta> now, i need to run, brb
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<Turl> ZetaNeta: an OS image is hardly a documentation derivative
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<Turl> ZetaNeta: the license tl;dr version is "you're free to share and adapt for any purpose provided you give appropriate attribution"
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<Turl> and I'd say it's free, just like BSD and apache licensed software is
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