<ssvb>
libv: (not sure if my yesterday's message has reached you, freenode was rather broken)
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<mnemoc>
hi ssvb, ccaione
<ssvb>
mnemoc: hi, are you already back home?
<mnemoc>
yes, returned yesterday night
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<mnemoc>
that's why I had to rush after libv's talk :\
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<ssvb>
mnemoc: I missed the kms talk because I had to leave to the airport early, but it's really nice that it was recorded on video :)
<mnemoc>
there like a hundred talks I missed :p
<mnemoc>
there are*
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<oliv3r>
there are TOO many talks imo
<oliv3r>
ssvb did I see you at the grate talk? did you sit to the right of room?
<oliv3r>
i saw so many new faces, i forgot them really quickly and i'm allready really bad with faces
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: you have 12 months to watch them :p
<oliv3r>
lol starting thursday :p
<oliv3r>
i'm gonn awatch the sunxi talks the next few datys
<oliv3r>
but I hope everybody had a great time
<oliv3r>
i'm really upset I didn't get to spend time with ya'll
<oliv3r>
ssvb: you are a former nokia employee too right, you still live in finland?
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: by arm-netbook started searching for an arm11 netbook from a vendor open to provide the sources. we made a group-buy coordinated by a friend from luke who was living in china. we got the "chi-tech" 10" netbook with s3c6410 in a so-dimm. never got any source. made some gpl-violation things, pushed the factory... and we got the finger
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: some years later the ML and IRC channel were revived with the announcement of EOMA68
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<oliv3r>
ah, i did see you spamming the arm-netbook list about some generic arm-netbook
<mnemoc>
:p
<oliv3r>
so i did figure that' sthere was where the naem came frmo
<oliv3r>
(fingers freezing lol)
<oliv3r>
but it's more related to the eoma history I suppose; our history forked!
<mnemoc>
our story begins with lkcl discoverying the annoucement of this awesome and incredibly cheap (in 10k+ qty) SoC with SATA and trying to make the contacts to see if the first eoma68 card can be made with it, and get access to sources
<oliv3r>
i guess i should have done better research :p
<oliv3r>
i read the rhombus-tech site, and their search for the right soc
<oliv3r>
from there it didn't seem the A10 was the first chance
<mnemoc>
hipboi found it exciting, he had been working for aw only for 6 months, and joined the arm-netbook community, helped getting the 2.6.36 kernel released and published his u-boot-mmc tree and the tool to make SD cards bootable
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<mnemoc>
then someone commented about the mele a1000... and tom said he had 2!
<oliv3r>
hehe
<oliv3r>
i really should have done a little more research :p
<mnemoc>
after some pushing he started reselling them on aliexpress, and we finally got an A10 board with uart
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: you should wiki that [[History]] :)
<mnemoc>
*cough*.... need to work :p
<oliv3r>
but was my 30 seconds on that so bad? :p
<oliv3r>
just copy paste this :p
<mnemoc>
nah, the talk was nice :)
<mnemoc>
you just missed the part where we forward ported 2.6.36 to 3.0 :p
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<mnemoc>
and ssvb making the first big contribution, fbcon!
<mnemoc>
uh, sorry.
<mnemoc>
that was techn
<mnemoc>
and techn making the first big contribution, fbcon!
<mnemoc>
:p
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: ah right, i thought we took their 3.0 dump and forward ported that
<oliv3r>
my bad; i'll do an errate set of slides soon
<oliv3r>
i completly even forgot about 2.6.36
<ssvb>
oliv3r: I came a bit late to the grate talk, and tried to sit on a squeaking seat in the right side of the room
<ssvb>
oliv3r: yeah, I also have a little bit trouble matching names and faces
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: we did too... trashing my forward port and forwarding the real fixes and improvements
<mnemoc>
that's why the "official" 3.0 in my github (before been moved to linux-sunxi and renamed) was -v2
<oliv3r>
ssvb: ah yeah then i did see you; i wasn't sure
<oliv3r>
ssvb: i remember the seat :p
<mnemoc>
way too many new faces to map to irc nicks :(
<mnemoc>
looking forward to the next meeting
<oliv3r>
yeah i got lost a little
<oliv3r>
how did the dinner go?
<oliv3r>
ssvb: is it true that 40% of finish folk run with windows phone on nokia's?
<mnemoc>
lumia means slut in spanish...
<oliv3r>
ssvb: understandable as it's a finish company of course
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: oh how did you like my version of sunxi :p
<mnemoc>
good
<mnemoc>
sort of "sun-tzi"... libv used the same
<mnemoc>
some I guess it now became official
<oliv3r>
sun-tzu :p
<oliv3r>
well xi is our thing isn't it; so it's greek
<oliv3r>
:p
<mnemoc>
I tend to pronounce it as sun-X-i with the X pronounced as "cha" (chinese) but the rest in english.... as hipboi told me they pronounce it within allwinner
<ssvb>
oliv3r: lumia is almost indistinguishable from N9, they basically reused the same mechanic part for it :)
<oliv3r>
yeah that i knew
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: allwinner 3.0 and 2.6.36 included a couple of "sunxi" drivers and headers already
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: sun-chai?
<ssvb>
oliv3r: somewhat surprisingly, there were a lot of people having jolla phone at fosdem
<mnemoc>
sun-cha-i
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: you should have done the history stuff :p
<oliv3r>
sun-tja-i
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: you never asked...
<mnemoc>
i could have given you the same summary a week ago
<oliv3r>
i was a little supprised at thea mount of windows laptops though
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: i know i know :p
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: I should have; bu the history bit i did last, wasn't too important :p
<amx>
btw, I have some A13 chips here. I ordered them a year ago or so to design a board, but I havent yet found the time.
<oliv3r>
amx: designing the board for a13 is easy, EXCEPT for the DRAM bit; that can be very very tricky if not done perfect
<amx>
yes, ddr2 is only available in bga, right?
<oliv3r>
possibly
<amx>
I had a look at the olimex a13 schematics
<oliv3r>
but i ment getting the routing right
<Wizzup>
oliv3r: thanks
<oliv3r>
Wizzup: i'll upload that to penta tomorrow
<amx>
yeah the routing is tough and I even planned to use kicad
<oliv3r>
amx: i think EOMA68 did the routing in some propriatery package; and then backported it to kicad, as kicad didn't cut it to get the tracelenghts right (but this was 2? years ago)
<Wizzup>
oliv3r: :)
<Turl>
ccaione: /q
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<amx>
I saw a demo of a kicad push-pull router recently and CERN seems to work on kicad too
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<ccaione>
Turl: what?
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<Turl>
ccaione: I sent you a private msg, have a look :p
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<amx>
btw, what happened to sysfwlab.com?
<Turl>
amx: maybe the owner got tired of having a blog (or it simply broke?)
<Turl>
amx: google cache should help
<oliv3r>
amx: yeah kicad is advancing nicely; it just (might) miss the ability to calculate route length/width and possible interference
<oliv3r>
but i might be talking out of my ass now
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<ccaione>
Turl: news?
<Turl>
ccaione: told you on /q
<Turl>
ccaione: it works for me
<Turl>
ccaione: have you tried make mrproper?
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<oliv3r>
libv: do we really have 8 dac's? I was sure we only had 4
<oliv3r>
so you could do 3 vga + composite, or 2x svideo, or composite x4
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<oliv3r>
though composite x4 with only 2 lcdc/tvec is useless i suppose
<Turl>
oliv3r: drive ALL the monitors!
<oliv3r>
:p
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<oliv3r>
ccaione: don't use codesourcery! dev only on gentoo like real men!
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<plaes>
crossdev, you mean? :)
<oliv3r>
yeah :p
<ccaione>
fuck gentoo :)
<oliv3r>
arch!
<oliv3r>
apt-get install arm-gcc
<ccaione>
arch FTW (even though I'm start thinking to swith to debian)
<plaes>
any cedarx reverse engineerers?
<plaes>
..around?
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<oliv3r>
plaes: ask :)
<arete74>
i spossible add to wiki an section projects, how do an user can add project with sunXi hw?
<plaes>
I'm slowly copying the registers into envytools format (like freedreno guys)
<oliv3r>
arete74: probably the new device howto?
<oliv3r>
plaes: ah yeah
<plaes>
and I wanted to know which tool is currently used for tracing...
<arete74>
oliv3r: i have an my project with cubieboard and read sensor via 1-wire bus
<arete74>
my little domitic experiment
<oliv3r>
arete74: ah just make a page i suppose
<oliv3r>
subection of cubieboar?
<oliv3r>
or start on your own 'talk' page
<plaes>
basically what I would like to do is take a trace log
<plaes>
and create a tool that annotates the trace log using current xml database
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<Turl>
plaes: I believe they use a custom tool based on valgrind
<atsampso1>
I think the number of Ls in oliv3r's name is indeterminate ;-)
<laureon>
hi everyone. Anyone knows how do I change the audio output priority for a sun6i_fiber? I need to output audio to codec instead of hdmi even if hdmi is plugged. Is this done by the kernel?
<leviathanch>
Turl: I can do HS200 according to the Chinese :-)
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<leviathanch>
Turl: but cubieboard2 can't do that, since there the power supply for the sd card is static
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<Turl>
mnemoc: that's the real name :p
<Turl>
mnemoc: one l is his pseudonym for us people who can only read simple names :)
<Turl>
leviathanch: is that part of UHS?
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<leviathanch>
Turl: yeah
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<mnemoc>
Turl: doh
<leviathanch>
Turl: oh, not wait
<leviathanch>
MMC operation motes
<leviathanch>
ah
<leviathanch>
damn
<leviathanch>
have a look into sunxi-mci.c
<leviathanch>
there is a nice very long comment
<leviathanch>
with a table
<leviathanch>
:-)
<leviathanch>
with all supported operation modes
<leviathanch>
straigt from the datasheet as far as I understood
<Turl>
hmmm, just noticed your driver says 3 * (C) Copyright 2007-2011 Reuuimlla Technology Co., Ltd.