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<brain_> Turl: I am using the rootfs from this page, as well as the kernel config as my base. it already had tslib installed and setup which I needed and the sunxi-mali repo was synced, just not up to date. http://olimex.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/building-debian-linux-image-for-a10-olinuxino-lime-with-kernel-3-4-67/
<Turl> brain_: and gnome works?
<Turl> brain_: is that debian testing or stable?
<Turl> ah, squeeze
<Turl> maybe the older gnome works :)
<Turl> with the newer one, the fallback gets me the sad gnome face
<Turl> the normal gnome mode works
<Turl> leveraging gallium+llvmpipe
<Turl> so, like 0.5fps :)
<brain_> yep squeeze, it works really well
<Turl> I'll give it a try then
<Turl> brain_: what about fbturbo?
<brain_> fbturbo is working, it comes included with the rootfs you just have to build it.
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<Turl> ok
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<Turl> brain_: you may want to regenerate the ssh keys btw
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<Turl> brain_: ok, that works :) thx for the info
<brain_> Turl: no problem, glad its working. :) time for me to hit the sack i've been up far too long.
<mnemoc> aaaarg! lost my bus :(
<Turl> brain_: good night
<Turl> mnemoc: :\
<Turl> mnemoc: can you hop on a later one or did you lose your money? :(
<mnemoc> nah. public transport... but the night freq is awful
<Turl> ah
<mnemoc> so yes, i'll take the next but arrive to the airport 35m before departure
<Turl> :\
<Turl> do you require checkin long before?
<mnemoc> don't think so. but first time flying to BRU.
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<mnemoc> *stress/axiety*
<mnemoc> and freezing :p
<Turl> mnemoc: let's make FOSDEM on latam next year, you can enjoy 30C at night then
<Turl> :P
<mnemoc> *g*
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<Turl> mnemoc: when do the sunxi streams start?
<mnemoc> no clue :p
<mnemoc> haven't had much time these days :(
<Turl> mnemoc: says the guy taking the bus to go to a conf :p
<mnemoc> *g*
<mnemoc> i'll my homework while boarding :p
<mnemoc> +do
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<Turl> mnemoc: I'll probably will be sleeping then
<mnemoc> go to sleep and set an alarm
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<Turl> mnemoc: they're tomorrow it seems
<Turl> at least oliv3r's and libv's
<mnemoc> there is a tizen-sunxi and an olinuxino talk too
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<Turl> dunno about the olimex one
<Turl> a bit after the tizen one
<mnemoc> last ape to board :p
<mnemoc> bye!
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<vpelletier> hi. is there a reason why I cannot create a user page on the wiki ? I would like to collext everything I learn fiddling with an A31 board but I do not know yet how to dispatch what I'll write into specific pages
<plaes> vpelletier: admins have to add you to "humans" list :P
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* nove doesn't want to be in bad mood, so will not reply to maillist
<nove> but the streams aren't in good health
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> nove: expected major news at fosdem?
<nove> JohnDoe_71Rus: you don't know, there will be sunxi related talks
<JohnDoe_71Rus> suddenly publish full support mali
<nove> no, there is work to be doen for lima, but there is news about a sunxi kms driver
<JohnDoe_71Rus> heard that the A20 will include support in the kernel 3.12
<plaes> yup, kms driver
<plaes> JohnDoe_71Rus: yup, it was merged into 3.12
<nove> mailline work started with kernel 3.8, and is still continues, but is still no ready, for what a end user expects
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<geecko> so is it possible to make a headless server if i compile a vanilla 3.13 kernel for A10s/A20?
<geecko> i'll be using usb ports, ethernet, some GPIO ports. that's all.
<wens> no usb in mainline yet
<wens> will probably be in 3.15
<geecko> ok ok
<geecko> is sunxi-3-10 working yet?
<plaes> SATA isn't mainline either
<plaes> ooh.. gmac was merged :D
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<wens> plaes: only driver core
<plaes> and what's left?
<plaes> glue for dt?
<wens> dt and clock driver
<plaes> argh..
<plaes> missed tsvetans talk :S
<wens> me too
* mnemoc at tizen-sunxi talk. it's also olinuxino based
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<mnemoc> a10s
<wens> plaes: wait, isn't his talk in half an hour? or am I mis-reading the schedule
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<mnemoc> any idea where olimex's booth is?
<mnemoc> weird to hear other people pronouncing sunxi :p
<wens> maybe we should capitalize the X
<nove> mnemoc: can i abuse linux-sunxi.org to record the sunxi related streams?
<mnemoc> dl. yes, not wiki attachments please
<wens> won't fosdem release the recordings afterwards?
<mnemoc> indeed
<nove> oliver can't watch the last kms talk, and will take some days to the videos showing up
<nove> it takes some days
<nove> mnemoc: if i still have shell access, i will record there
<nove> i will make a test
<mnemoc> iirc you do
<mnemoc> tsvetan talk is in 20m
<nove> mnemoc: got the shell, and is recording
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<wens> a lot of background noise in the Docker talk
<plaes> ahh.. indeed
<wens> Hans has a talk at 3pm on running X11 without root
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<nove> tell me the room and the time, i will try to record, must be related or of interest for sunxi
<wens> tsvetan talk should be starting any minute
<nove> is recording
<wigyori> nah, tsvetan's talk
<plaes> no stream :S
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<wens> plaes: use auto
<plaes> yup
<wens> my stream just died :(
<nove> lime should be of lime colour
<plaes> indeed
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<nove> still not complete
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<mnemoc> =)
<plaes> yay
<plaes> fosdem schedule web page is off by one hour for me
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<plaes> in 15 minutes, hansg will start?
<plaes> hrm.. the graphics devroom audio sucks
<plaes> s/sucks/cracks :)
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<paulk-collins> oliv3r, hey, you there?
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<nove> too bad the audio
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<wens> wow, extra long break
<plaes> yeah.. Keith Packard's plane was cancelled :(
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<bsdfox> wow that lime board looks cool
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<Turl> cool, gregkh is at fosdem
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<ccaione> Turl: I saw also russel king around (or at least I think he was rking)
<Turl> they were giving a miracast on linux talk
<Turl> I'm watching tsvetan's talk now
<Turl> thx nove for archiving :)
<ccaione> I'm sleeping in Janson room
<Turl> ccaione: what's on there? :P
<ccaione> nothing :P
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<Turl> cancelled? or break?
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<ccaione> Turl: there are no more interesting talks (to me), so I'm wasting my time until meetup at 19
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<ccaione> but really I'd like to sleep
* ccaione is wondering why there are so many men with skirt at fosdem
<jelly-home> skirts are cool?
<ccaione> dunno ... I'm not fashionable
<bsdfox> the embedded room isn't streaming?
<ccaione> bsdfox: no more talks in embedded room
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<Turl> ccaione: weren't you guys going to meet on a hackerspace?
<Turl> For the first time this year, the FOSDEM wireless network will be IPv6-only.
<Turl> :o cool
<ccaione> Turl: we met yesterday at hackerspace. tonight at olimex booth
<Turl> oh
<ccaione> Turl: and there was also a double-stack wifi ;)
<Turl> did you get any hacking done? :p
<ccaione> nope :D
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<nove> incomplete tizen-sunxi talk uploaded http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/nove/sunxi_at_fosdem2014/
<nove> Turl: ^
<Turl> nove: how incomplete is it?
<nove> tomorrow schedule is done, 5 talks to watch and try recording
<nove> misses the start
<nove> misses the first minutes, the video is around 15min, and the lighting talks are around also around 15min
<Turl> no big deal, seems to only miss the first two slides
<Turl> name & something probably :)
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<mnemoc> where is the people?! :(
<mnemoc> i arrived too late :/ damn
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> at the conference?
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<mnemoc> to olimex's booth for the sunxi dinner
<mnemoc> :'(
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<Turl> ccaione: ^
<Turl> mnemoc: adjust your clock :p
<mnemoc> i was intercepted by a work colleage
<Turl> haha
<Turl> mnemoc: I think the place was mentioned on some email if you want to go directly there
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<Turl> hm nope
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<oliv3r> <- in bed, bursting headeache, with a sick gf next to hi
<oliv3r> time to reduce my 120 slides a little
<plaes> o_O
<oliv3r> this morning, we went from the really cold outside; to the really warm inside; and doing that a LOT of times :S
<oliv3r> and my gf got sick from being outside and walking in brussels for 3 1/2 ours in the spouse tour
<plaes> yeah, I've had this cold-warm-cold-warm headaches..
<plaes> if I didn't go to sleep soon enough, I eventually threw up
<oliv3r> oh yeah throwing up from migranes, i know that
<oliv3r> also we stood an hour in the cold waiting for a taxi
<Guest57672> Hi
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<ZetaNeta> This nick is better
<ZetaNeta> so... i changed my amlogic for a rockchip device
<ZetaNeta> rk2818
<rm> has anyone tried to use the backported rt2800usb driver on 3.4?
<ZetaNeta> so... anyone who can 1) assist in getting linux there 2) send me to a rockchip fanchannel
<hramrach> ZetaNeta: #linux-rockchip
<ZetaNeta> already there
<hramrach> what kind of device?
<ZetaNeta> tablet
<ZetaNeta> 600 mhz and 256mb ram.... WHY DIDNT I GET A A10!!!
<oliv3r> ZetaNeta: wrong device, wrong channel
<ZetaNeta> :P
<ZetaNeta> I know
<ZetaNeta> anyone want to trade a allwinner for this?
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<oliv3r> hell no :p
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<Turl> oliv3r: you got your gf to fosdem? :p
<oliv3r> she didn't wanna stay behind alone :)
<Turl> rm: is it from compat wireless or however it's called now? probably someone on the x86 world has
<oliv3r> but getting all the stares is cool
<Turl> haha
<Turl> oliv3r: did mnemoc find the rest of you?
<oliv3r> <- sick in bed
<Turl> oliv3r: ah, so you didn't get dinner with the rest?
<oliv3r> no :(
<Turl> :(
<oliv3r> yeah really sucks; was really looking forward to it
<oliv3r> one of the main reasons to come here on saturday
<Turl> maybe you can have lunch tomorrow
<oliv3r> aye, was thinking that too
<oliv3r> since sunxi talk is over at 12; it's a good time
<Turl> oliv3r: did you get to see tsvetan's talk?
<oliv3r> i missed it; but I did get to see tsvestan
<Turl> oliv3r: nove mirrored them on http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/nove/sunxi_at_fosdem2014/ if you missed any
<oliv3r> yeah will watch when i get hoe
<oliv3r> i have to i'm timing my slides atm; got 120 or so slides at
<Turl> is it absolute count or 'slides' count?
<oliv3r> absolute
<Turl> beamer can easily output 5 pages if you use timed stuff and the like
<oliv3r> i didn't bother figureing out how to ge tit to show 1 line at a time, so i jus tmade 5 slides :p
<Turl> lol
<Turl> it's trivial that one
<oliv3r> olimex stole our cedar demo though
<oliv3r> so that 'oh ah' moment is gone
<Turl> oliv3r: just add \pause before the thing :p
<oliv3r> in lo impress?
<Turl> ah you're using LO
<Turl> dunno then
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<oliv3r> Turl: what was you talking about
<Turl> I'm now disappointed you didn't use beamer tho :)
<oliv3r> Turl: i hope not ppt
<Turl> beamer :p making slides with LaTeX
<oliv3r> oh 'beamer' never heard of that
<oliv3r> ahh
<oliv3r> yeah i was thinking it
<oliv3r> but
<oliv3r> well nobody @fosde will read this anyway
<HdkR> ?
<oliv3r> i'm using LO on the cubietruck
<HdkR> Fosdem is over until tomorrow
<oliv3r> so doing the slides, on the truck using LO seemed more 'awesome'
<Turl> wel, probably, yeah
<Turl> well*
<Turl> heavier than running evince
<Turl> :p
<oliv3r> exactly
<Turl> oliv3r: are you running it dual headed?
<oliv3r> i want people to think i'm using a laptop
<oliv3r> i wish
<oliv3r> vga
<Turl> LO has some mode where it shows you next slide on the second monitor
<oliv3r> hence the truck; its the only sunxi device i have with vga
<oliv3r> yeah i tested that; works great
<oliv3r> but don't think there's 2nd monitor
<oliv3r> on a side note; i' using my TI chronos to make the slides go
<oliv3r> i'm worried about getting it to work when i'm on stage though :p
<oliv3r> worked fine the few times i tested it
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<Turl> oliv3r: I saw someone posting a pic of a rf analyzer
<Turl> the 2.4 bands were pretty crowded :p
<plaes> IIRC, the Chronos uses 933mhz
<plaes> or 430
<oliv3r> plaes: 433
<oliv3r> i got the 'world wide' wone
<oliv3r> one
<oliv3r> Turl: link me :p and yeah; i was at the software archeology talk; but got booted from the network as the room filled up; i think i saw the AP's restarting in the room (they had 4 that i saw)
<oliv3r> the leds where looking like they where rebooting anyway
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<oliv3r> Turl: thank you
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<oliv3r> ok slides are done, 125 slides is the absolute count; almost 9mb is the odp; sleep time now
<oliv3r> hopefully we'll feel much better tomorrow
<Turl> go get some rest :)
<Turl> oliv3r: at what time is the talk btw?
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<brain_> this may be a stupid question on my part: I am reformatting and redoing my entire nand layout to make room to allow multi-boot, one for testing and my current rootfs which has its issues. I already know multi-boot works fine but what happens if I eliminate /dev/nandb which holds the env? If I make a change to the u-boot args and i have only boot(nanda) and 1 partition for each rootfs...were will the changes be stored when I change th
<brain_> e bootargs? is this bound to failure?
<rm> wtf seriously
<rm> I upgrade my kernel from 3.4.67 to 3.4.75
<rm> and my wired mouse stops being detected
<rm> a different (wireless) mouse works
<leviathanch> mripard: hi
<Turl> leviathanch: he's probably sleeping after fosdem :)
<leviathanch> hehe
<wigyori> 'morning'
<Turl> brain_: you may want to use boot.cmd or uEnv then (but nand uboot doesn't support the latter I think)
<leviathanch> Turl: putting printks into clk_factors_determine_rate leads to the fact that uImage becomes unbootable because printks at early setup phase aren't so cool
<leviathanch> maybe putting early_printk instead will do...
<leviathanch> ok
<leviathanch> nope
<leviathanch> printk kills it
<leviathanch> ...
<Turl> wtf :)
<Turl> how does it die?
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<Turl> leviathanch: brb
<leviathanch> oh
<leviathanch> Turl: sorry
<leviathanch> was readin some text
<leviathanch> it just refuses to do _anything_
<leviathanch> it gets stuck after u-boot without any output
<leviathanch> removing printks makes it boot again
<leviathanch> ...
<leviathanch> Turl: could you maybe test my branch?
<leviathanch> ^_^
<leviathanch> see if I'm missing something?