ELLIOTTCABLE changed the topic of #elliottcable to: #ELLIOTTCABLE — do something cool, shove it into throats, everyone thinks it's crap, then it's all amazing.
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<jvulc> Elliott is nomadic. He does it so the machines from the future can't find him.
<jvulc> Plot twist: Paws is Skynet.
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<joelteon> guys check out this neat definition of liftM2 I wrote
<joelteon> liftM2 = flip ((<$>)<$>(join<$>)<$>(<$>)<$>flip(<$>))<$>(<$>)
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<cuttle> joelteon: lol
<purr> lol
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> silentbicycle: cool, cool. I'll be around for the first half of this coming week rather a lot, probably.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but I'll be in Portland come the end of the week. heading to @RealtimeConf.
<silentbicycle> all right
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<mcc> Now, technically, shouldn't this be ##elliottcable? :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> nope!
<mcc> Are you open source?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> It's a channel officially dedicated to my products.
<mcc> Oh! OK.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> So, it's like, say, #GitHub.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ELLIOTTCABLE is an organization. ;)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but, more usefully, and unofficially, it's a channel dedicated to discussing programming-language development,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and less usefully and even *less* officially, it's dedicated to discussing changing the world with our magical super-powers.
<mcc> that sounds within the bounds of the open source project
<ELLIOTTCABLE> sorry, I'm pseudo-not-here. Wheels up from Philly to Chicago in about thirty minutes, and I'm neck-deep in researching feminist mores.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mcc: also: followed you through Melissa, and super-happy with what I've seen so far.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Yours is quickly becoming one of my top-ten Twitter streams.
<mcc> haha ok thank you
<mcc> 0xabad1dea melissa? I don't think she follows me
* ELLIOTTCABLE eyebrow
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I definitely know I followed you through her; perhaps she'd just retweeted you one time too many through somebody else, then.
<mcc> haha could have happened :) or I @ed her or somehing.
<mcc> something
<ELLIOTTCABLE> man, where'd the damn post go …
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lessee. consistency and replication in distributed systems, lua coroutines (thanks, silentbicycle), IRC, a whitepaper on CRDTs,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ahhah!
<ELLIOTTCABLE> what an enlightening post.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mcc: what're your go-to languages, if not JS or Ruby?
<mcc> heh
<mcc> Elliottcable: In order of preference, Lua, Python, C++, Objective C.
<mcc> Python or C++ are a toss-up which I'd prefer.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mmm, fuck C++, but I like the rest.
<mcc> Heh
<mcc> If you restrict yourself to a particular part of the language
<ELLIOTTCABLE> dabble much in anything more interesting? (Although I might actually argue that lua counts as interesting, nowadays.)
<mcc> You can do some very nice things in it.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mmmm. I've always found it, the people who develop with it, the conventions used thereby, and the APIs available to developers using it, too revolting to learn it well.
<mcc> Yeah you want to avoid many of those APIs/conventions like the plague
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ObjC or C99, when I need to be that low, thankyewverymuch.
<mcc> So assuming we have the same definition of "Interesting", and I think we do, I think Lua is itself quite Interesting, and no, I actually avoid "Interesting" languages these days
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mmm why's that?
<mcc> What i want these days is languages with a wide install base and broad set of support software.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mmmm. something I can understand, for some tasks.
<mcc> I find PL design really fascinating, but I want to apply things to solve problems and I think the self-limiting nature of a lot of "interesting" PL means that that will get in the way
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but that applies to what one might call “work” tasks. What about your ‘off-time,’ or hobby-time? Great times to play with new tooling.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Taste the waters, figure out what's coming five, ten years down the line.
<mcc> I'll be able to solve really neat problems within a file, then I'll need to like… decode a PNG, or run on Android, and suddenly I'm fucked.
<mcc> My off-time coding is about as structured as my "on the clock" coding :)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's unfortunate! D:
<mcc> Nope, it's the way I want things.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> okay, gotta pack up and go board a flying deathtrap.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'll be back on in a couple hours. hearts.
<mcc> More to the point, my off-time coding tends toward games ( http://runhello.com/ ) which comes with… interesting challenges
<mcc> If I want to make video games which are *portable*
<mcc> Then I have an entire unusual set of challenges
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mcc: meet cuttle (@micahrjohnston)
<mcc> Erlang looks super cool but I doubt it's deployable
<ELLIOTTCABLE> cuttle: meet mcc (@mcclure111)
<mcc> elliotcable: ah ok. have fun
<ELLIOTTCABLE> he's a games-dev nut, as well.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> bbl!
<mcc> heh
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon!
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm on a plane! I'm also a snake!
<alexgordon> omg
<alexgordon> you're on a plane
<alexgordon> internet on planes is the most mindblowing shit ever
<ELLIOTTCABLE> A little bit.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: so when can we paws?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mmm. shit's kinda, come up.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> in the worst way. /=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I miiiiight, I guess, have a lot of time on the computer over the next few days
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but I'll also likely be waaaaay too depressed to focus well
<ELLIOTTCABLE> proposal to drop call/cc from scheme. mind blown.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: :(
<ELLIOTTCABLE> we can talk Paws now, if you like
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wonder if mcc and silentbicycle are still around?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mcc: related: Where do you live? (++ cheeseburgers with egg; discovered those this year, and am in love. and ++ strawberry/cheesecake/both/either.)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: 'round?
<alexgordon> yeah
<ELLIOTTCABLE> meh, landing in 35m, apparently.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so maybe not start anything.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> tonight's, gonna, suck. somebody wish me luck. plzplzplz.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: good luck, whatever it is
* mcc is around and is in the san francisco bay area.
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> thanks alexgordon
<ELLIOTTCABLE> love you <3
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