<cuttle>
help me think of a halloween twitter name
<jesusabdullah>
no
<prophile>
cuttle: how about
<prophile>
elliottcable
<cuttle>
prophile: hahahaha
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Omg
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Micah: you go as me for Halloween, on the internet
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'll go as you :D
<joelteon>
dude WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BAD
<joelteon>
at STUFF
<joelteon>
so fedex tried to deliver, right
<joelteon>
nobody was home so they left a tag on my door
<joelteon>
so i read it
<joelteon>
it says go to fedex.com/delivery to tell them to hold it at the fedex place so i can go pick it up
<joelteon>
so i got there
<joelteon>
and i have to
<joelteon>
create an account
<joelteon>
to request them to hold it at the fedex place
<joelteon>
rather than them just giving me a deliver UUID or something
<joelteon>
so i enter in all my personal information, name of every pet i've ever owned, age of every person i've met
<joelteon>
and then
<joelteon>
after all that
<joelteon>
"We were unable to verify you with the information provided."
<joelteon>
like wtf does that even mean, it's a goddamn street address
<joelteon>
who are you "verifying" me with
<joelteon>
it took me 8 tries to buy this stupid fucking sweater from h&m because they need the 4 digits after your zip code as well but they don't tell you that
<joelteon>
i want to die
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
This is why you use phones, honey.
<joelteon>
no ugh
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Stay away from the Internet, except for with Internet-based companies. Excellent rule of thumb.
* prophile
tears out jugulars
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
cuttle: /nick ELLIOTTCABLE on Halloween ('=
<cuttle>
ELLIOTTCABLE: hhahahaahahaha
<cuttle>
let's do it
<cuttle>
ok switch on twitter
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Yeah :D
<cuttle>
SWITCHED
<cuttle>
6:55 PM <•ELLIOTTCABLE> Stay away from the Internet, except for with Internet-based companies. Excellent rule of thumb.
<cuttle>
joelteon: dude yeah that's bullshit
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Nonono not right now
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
*on Halloween*
<cuttle>
awwww
<cuttle>
well
<cuttle>
ynow
<cuttle>
people
<cuttle>
change their names to hallowen names
<cuttle>
like
<cuttle>
in october
<cuttle>
@bathsmusic
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Wat really?
<cuttle>
changed from WILL WIESENDFELD TO
<cuttle>
KILL WIESENFELD
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Ohhhhhh, their *names*
<cuttle>
@zoequinnzel
<cuttle>
changed from zoe "buttass" quinnzel to zoe "ghostass" quinnzel
<cuttle>
@bluesweatshirt changed from lule blue to lulu boo
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
o7, all
<joelteon>
that was a good year
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<alexgordon>
hi ELLIOTTCABLE
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
hi, alexgordon
<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: what you up to?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
errgha
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
actions-triage
<alexgordon>
lol
<purr>
lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'm at Inbox 40 in Things.app.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
which is the highest I've been in a *long* time, because I'm pretty goddamn anal about my Things.
<alexgordon>
you're pretty goddamn anal about everything
<joelteon>
he's pretty goddamn anal
<joelteon>
not sure if i have a cavity or what
<joelteon>
my teeth hurt
<joelteon>
but i'm not fond of dentists
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
oh really? how's that?
<joelteon>
it'd be cool if we could just replace our teeth with titanium or something
<joelteon>
some of the bottom molars on the right side are aching a bit when i eat
<joelteon>
i should probably ask my roommate where a dentist is
<alexgordon>
joelteon: probably at a dental surgery?
<cuttle>
alexgordon: how do I learn about networking and p2p and stuff?
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<alexgordon>
cuttle: trial and error
<alexgordon>
cuttle: also zmq
<alexgordon>
I'm so pissed I didn't find out about it sooner
<jesusabdullah>
ELLIOTTCABLE: trolololo
<purr>
trolololo
<jesusabdullah>
hahaha
<jesusabdullah>
yeeah purr gets it
<jesusabdullah>
ELLIOTTCABLE: RTC tickets are still available??
<jesusabdullah>
ELLIOTTCABLE: isn't RTC in like a week?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
jesusabdullah: yes. And I can get you 100$ off. COME WITH US.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and it's in three weeks.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
they're almost out of tickets; only a couple left, as I understand it.
<jesusabdullah>
but that's a flight
<jesusabdullah>
and I kinda do wanna go, just squirrely in terms of timing
* ELLIOTTCABLE
laughs
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yep
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'm totes-fucked
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
1. my move-in date, for my new place, is *the day we're flying back*. And I *have* to deliver some important paperwork (details on my criminal record, 'cause all of it's court-sealed, and they won't let me move in until they have unsealed hardcopy.),
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
2. my dogs are currently being cared for by a close family of mine, and they're flying off into the Wild Blue Yonder for some big trip, the same day Chelsea and I are flying *to* the conference. So I have to make new arrangements for my dogs for those four more days.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
3. I've got three *other* places to be in the United States, within the twelve days circumscribing the conference (Minnesota, North Carolina, and Chicago), for various reasons; and now I have to schedule the travel for those places *around* the Portland tickets I've already bought
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
4. I *just realized* what a ‘significant other’ track is. It's some patronizing girly bullshit that doesn't involve them even going into the conf's venue. So now, I have to talk them into giving me *actual* conf-tickets for Chelsea.
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<cuttle>
ELLIOTTCABLE: criminal record??
<cuttle>
ELLIOTTCABLE: also wow you are a busy socialite
<cuttle>
:p
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
lololol
<purr>
lololol
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
how long have you known me, and yet it's a surprise to you that I have a record?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and I can't tell if that's sarcasm. I *am* busy. Disgustingly-so.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Inbox mostly-zero! Yay.
<cuttle>
not sarcasm really
<cuttle>
just some percentage tongue in cheek word choice
<cuttle>
is the record like
<cuttle>
mass scale drug distribution
<cuttle>
or like
<cuttle>
trespassing
<cuttle>
alexgordon: i want to know from like the bottom up
<cuttle>
alexgordon: so i can incorporate it into my brain cells idea
<alexgordon>
cuttle: wat
<alexgordon>
know what?
<cuttle>
networks
<cuttle>
and p2p
<alexgordon>
err
<alexgordon>
well it starts with your network card
<alexgordon>
:P
<cuttle>
:p
<alexgordon>
I dunno, it seems pretty trivial to me
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
cuttle: I thought I knew quite a bit about sockets, the IP protocol, routing, etceteras
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
all seems boring, but I'd had reason to learn quite a bit about it in the past,
<cuttle>
hahahaha, from the zmq intro:
<cuttle>
“Code has to run like the human brain, trillions of individual neurons firing off messages to each other, a massively parallel network with no central control, no single point of failure, yet able to solve immensely difficult problems.”
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and then there was a talk at SecondConf about “mapping the Internet”
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
(look up the video, it was a great talk, very very cool stuff)
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and I learned about layers of “the Internet” that i'd never even CONSIDERED.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
like, BGP. What the *fuck* is that.
<cuttle>
huh.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
It turns out that there's a lot more to “the Internet”, below even the most basic packet-level protocols.
<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: oh cool
<alexgordon>
yeah I read about this before, but had forgotten
<cuttle>
dumb argument: “And it's no accident that the future of code looks like the human brain, because the endpoints of every network are, at some level, human brains.”
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
lol yeah but still it's *cool*
<purr>
lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
on a visceral level of ‘coolness’
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
nothing to do with accuracy or meaningfulness
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
just g'damn cool, like battleships and rocket launchers are cool.
<cuttle>
well yeah but i mean
<cuttle>
it could be cool without being obviously fallacious
<cuttle>
on a basic level
<cuttle>
like the previous sentence was
<cuttle>
but yeah
<alexgordon>
cuttle: you talking about zmq?
<cuttle>
alexgordon: yeah
<alexgordon>
they mean the whole network is a brain
<cuttle>
fred brooks' "no silver bullet" is dumb
<cuttle>
alexgordon: yes I know
<alexgordon>
with zmq as the synapses
<cuttle>
alexgordon: of course of course
<cuttle>
but one particular sentence said "of course it's like a brain because human brains are at the endpoints"
<cuttle>
which is dumb
<alexgordon>
anyway the point is that zmq is just waaaaay better than stupid fucking sockets
<cuttle>
sure i am not disputing that haha
<joelteon>
zmq looks neat but i have no use for it
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<joelteon>
not yet
<joelteon>
i should make something distributed with zeromq
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: reasoning?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I've never used a “messaging queue” system like that.
<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: it's not a messaging queue, it's a networking library
<alexgordon>
it's got a stupid name
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<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: it's an alternative (or at least, a wrapper) for regular unix sockets, with some nice features
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
A wrapper for UNIX sockets. Hm.
<alexgordon>
you just tell it your topology
<alexgordon>
then the rest is pretty simple. it has lots of knobs to adjust and it's very very fast
<alexgordon>
also, the new one has an experimental crypto library (should be more secure than SSL in a few years)
<cuttle>
for zmq's dream of a big ol brain to come true
<cuttle>
we need to stop having
<cuttle>
computers are this big ol monolithic blog
<cuttle>
blob
<cuttle>
and then the networking stuff is between them
<cuttle>
just think about how fucking ridiculous it is that like dozens of processes take turns and maybe 4 of them at once can add two numbers together at a time
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
trying to set up 1Password for the first time.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
New release finally looks secure enough to satisfy my paranoia.
<alexgordon>
wait they weren't using a MAC before?
<alexgordon>
amateurs
<joelteon>
I feel like I should do something with zmq
<alexgordon>
joelteon: make a p2p network
<joelteon>
that does what
<alexgordon>
not sure, porn?
<joelteon>
huh
<cuttle>
how does p2p work
<alexgordon>
cuttle: you have a network of computers, they talk to each other
<alexgordon>
lol
<purr>
lol
<cuttle>
lol thanks got that part
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
this channel. jesus.
<alexgordon>
well what more do you want lol
<alexgordon>
it depends on the network
<alexgordon>
bitcoin's p2p network is very different to bittorrent's
<alexgordon>
that's about the only thing they have in common
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<cuttle>
yeah i get that
<cuttle>
i kinda get how bitcoin works
<cuttle>
i want to know like
<cuttle>
how computers find all the other computesr
<cuttle>
do they just refer each other?
<cuttle>
and then with like bittorrents how do you find any in the first place?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
bbl u all suk
<cuttle>
ELLIOTTCABLE: :c
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<alexgordon>
cuttle: well that's an interesting problem