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<whitequark> yorick: well. the entire series is cute, dumb, and nicely drawn. it will continue to excel in all these qualities.
<yorick> whitequark: well index I wasn't quite cute or dumb
* whitequark . o O ( I will overcome you by lecturing you my black-and-white moral ideals )
<yorick> please do
<whitequark> cuteness is more railgun's trait, sure
<yorick> index I was only dumb in the sense that everyone kept underestimating the guy
<whitequark> ehhh, that's not at all what I mean; let me elaborate
<whitequark> the entire raildex seems to exist in some kind of alternate universe where the only thing that ever matters is drama. it's not like anime is well-known for having correct physics, or sane representation of relationships, or making any sense at all, but TKnR/TMnI really takes this up to eleven
<yorick> yeah, I figured that would become a plot-point somewhere
<whitequark> haha nope
<whitequark> that would actually be awesome
<whitequark> by the way, I wondered if light novels are worth it
<whitequark> figured out two things. first, no, they're exactly the same
<whitequark> second, they're *exactly* the same. the light novels (so far as I've read; it was not very entertaining) have an 1:1 correspondence with the anime. sentence for sentence.
<whitequark> which is on one hand very impressive, and on the other one incredibly boring.
<whitequark> the language was also rather bland, and I suspect this was not a translation issue.
<yorick> did the light novels come first?
<whitequark> as far as I know, yes
<whitequark> light novels, 2004; manga, 2007; anime, 2008
<yorick> impressive. I've heard of a shakespeare movie doing that (sticking to the original script), that was quite impressive
<cuttle> whitequark: what's the meaning of . o O ()?
<whitequark> cuttle: "thinking"
<cuttle> yorick: yeah i like when they do modern day setting but stick to the original script
<whitequark> cuttle: that wasnt what I meant
<whitequark> yorick: on a side note I think shakugan no shana is incredibly good
<yorick> whitequark: also, kuroko needs to stfu.
<prophile> romeo + juliet used the original script in a modern setting
<prophile> right down to guns with the brand name 'sword'
<yorick> tell me she dies somewhere along railgun I
<prophile> it was a shit film
<whitequark> yorick: haha nope
<yorick> dammit.
<whitequark> also her voice actress is amazing
<whitequark> one of few things I still genuinely enjoy
<yorick> ... she uses all of the amazingness for pure anoyance
<whitequark> do you know japanese?
<yorick> no
<whitequark> then you can just listen to her monologues
<yorick> thanks, shakugan no shana is now on my list
<whitequark> index and railgun specials have quite a few
<yorick> whitequark: if you're ever looking for a superhumans story with a sane physics implementation I can recommend Worm (parahumans.wordpress.com)
<whitequark> yorick: (parahumans) not quite my cup of tea
<whitequark> I'll take a look maybe
<yorick> yeah it does consist of 1.5 million words :P
<prophile> that's over a million
<whitequark> eh, length doesn't quite scare me
<yorick> prophile: good counting
<yorick> whitequark: at 300wpm that's 90 hours of reading fun
<whitequark> yorick: things I like most about shana is that it's mostly devoid of stock scenery and fillers (eg no hot springs or beach episodes in three seasons), it has an okay plot, and represents relationships well enough I could imagine real people behaving like that. also, there's a *lot* of them, all different.
<whitequark> also, don't watch the movie, it's just the first season cut by a blind idiot.
<cuttle> prophile: oh haha sword-brand guns
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<yorick> whitequark: parahumans not quite your cup of tea, you watched 4 seasons of them :P
<whitequark> ... twice
<whitequark> to the present day I'm not sure why
<whitequark> also not sure why exactly I'm watching the index movie right now
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<Determinist> i have arrived
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<alexgordon> hi Determinist
<alexgordon> where have you arrived?
<Determinist> alexgordon: here, obviously :P
<alexgordon> here is an excellent place to have arrived
<Determinist> yes, definitely
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<jvulc> Is there a cure for procrastinating?
<alexgordon> jvulc: I have a tv tropes article that may help you
<jvulc> I'm a lost cause ... but alright, sure.
<alexgordon> jvulc: but seriously, I found the solution on HN (of all places)
<alexgordon> have two computers
<alexgordon> one for working, one for IRC/chat/web browsing/email/whatever
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<fwg> hm
<fwg> what if working includes browsing
<fwg> say, for documentation
<joelteon> god i'm SO DUMB
<joelteon> I got EVERYTHING
<joelteon> diamond pickaxe, food, torches, a bed, a map
<joelteon> then when i've been in the nether for 15 minutes I realize I forgot to chop down the portal and take it with me
<alexgordon> fwg: I have a browser on both computers :P
<fwg> alexgordon: so how does that keep you from procrastinating again?
<alexgordon> fwg: I use safari on my working computer ;)
<fwg> hehe
<alexgordon> I dunno it doesn't have any of my settings or anything
<alexgordon> so I don't really use it for that
<alexgordon> actually I find the progression usually goes
<alexgordon> get twitter/irc notification -> click link -> go to reddit or whatever
<alexgordon> because I'm not getting notifications on my working computer, I stay in flow
<fwg> -> ??? -> PROFIT
<whitequark> alexgordon: there's an easier solution
<whitequark> echo 127.0.0.1 twitter.com reddit.com >>/etc/hosts
<alexgordon> heh doesn't work
<alexgordon> I can disable that in 5 seconds
<whitequark> it totally does. I now have so much fucking free time I've no idea what to do with it
<whitequark> it's not really about disabling
<alexgordon> whitequark: I tried that, it just didn't work for me
<whitequark> see, if you actually *want* to go to twitter, then sure--I disable it once in a few weeks to do something important
<whitequark> but it guards you from *accidental* slips.
<alexgordon> actually I find what works a bit better is to blank out the whole site with adblock
<alexgordon> then if I want to visit it I have to turn adblock off
<whitequark> click link, get 403, remember "oh right I'm supposed to be working"
<alexgordon> yeah true
<whitequark> well, that's exactly same thing
<alexgordon> anyway the reason I originally started using computers was because my laptop was going really slowly
<alexgordon> so I thought I'd have a separate computer just for working, then it would be fast
<whitequark> laptop is a computer you know
<whitequark> :p
<alexgordon> *two computers
<alexgordon> but it helps with procrastination a lot too
<alexgordon> actually slowness is a big cause of procrastination too
<alexgordon> if a build takes 20 seconds, I don't want to sit there for 20 seconds
<whitequark> true dat
<alexgordon> if it's a different computer, it's easier since at least I don't have to switch
<alexgordon> all about building obstacles for your lizard brain :P
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<joelteon> ok
<joelteon> i'm gonna try mavericks
<joelteon> even if i can't have tranquil
<joelteon> i mean xnomad
<joelteon> brb
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