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cuttle >
alexgordon: DAVE HOLAND
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cuttle >
this is my fucking jam
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alexgordon >
cuttle: dave holland is the deity I worship
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cuttle >
prismsmssmsmsm
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cuttle >
though i will have to go back through everything else he's done
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cuttle >
after listening to this a lot
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cuttle >
aw manannannnn
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alexgordon >
I should buy a ticket
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cuttle >
yeah you should
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alexgordon >
I should!
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cuttle >
do it for me
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cuttle >
is the best thing
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cuttle >
in existence
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cuttle >
alexgordon: you see that chris potter underground thing from locks?
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alexgordon >
cuttle: yeah
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alexgordon >
cuttle: eh, no bass :P
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cuttle >
i love bass, a ton
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cuttle >
this is like the best thing ever
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alexgordon >
cuttle: well as I was saying to locks, I prefer his stuff with dave holland
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cuttle >
recommend me some albums
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alexgordon >
Dave Holland Extended Play is my favourite album ever
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prophile >
dave holland the bass player?
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cuttle >
not available in my coutnryyyyy :/
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cuttle >
prophile: yeah
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alexgordon >
cuttle -_-
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cuttle >
found it on spotify though
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alexgordon >
third one is so relaxing
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alexgordon >
why I'm falling asleep already
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cuttle >
so much jazz to listen to
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cuttle >
hey alexgordon so i had an idea
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cuttle >
about a cpu architecture
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cuttle >
wanted to know what you think
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cuttle >
it's vague and probably awful
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alexgordon >
does it involve dave holland?
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cuttle >
so the idea is for like
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cuttle >
dataflow processor
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cuttle >
i don't know how those have been made in the past
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cuttle >
something about content-addressable memory
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cuttle >
i don't want to do that
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cuttle >
i want it to be very asynchronous
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cuttle >
so that it scales upwards indefinitely to like
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cuttle >
multiple processors communicating
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cuttle >
so it's more like
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prophile >
paws: now in architecture form
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cuttle >
a bunch of processor
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cuttle >
rather than
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cuttle >
*a* processor
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cuttle >
so like a gpu but way more general purpose
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cuttle >
so like it'd be hierarchical
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cuttle >
like little locales
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cuttle >
and each little cell can look at the other cells in its locale
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cuttle >
and like compute a result, or be data
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cuttle >
so data and functions are exactly the same, just arbitrary directed graphs of cells
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alexgordon >
prophile is obviously more awake than I am
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cuttle >
but there's no problem with garbage collection of cycles because it is not like a global addressable space
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cuttle >
everything is really local
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alexgordon >
cuttle: so you're trying to build... a brain?
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alexgordon >
loads of little processors communicating
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cuttle >
it's more similar to a brain than von neumann architectures are, yes
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alexgordon >
I've always thought computers should be more like brains
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cuttle >
definitely
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prophile >
bullshit
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alexgordon >
brains are more powerful than computers at many tasks
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prophile >
brains are unpredictable and buggy
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cuttle >
this is way more organized than a brain though, though it'd probalby be really suited to like adaptation and stuff
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cuttle >
neural network shit
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alexgordon >
for the same power budget anyway
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prophile >
also they have tentacles
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cuttle >
like, it'd probably be easy to implement them on top of it
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alexgordon >
can a computer beat a top chess player using the same number of watts as a human brain?
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cuttle >
but like this would be able to deterministically lay out a whole thing in
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cuttle >
alexgordon++
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purr >
Let it be known that cuttle loves alexgordon.
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alexgordon >
there should be a competition for that
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alexgordon >
apparently it uses around 20W
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cuttle >
alexgordon: anyway, this is the architecture corresponding to the idea i was trying to explain earlier
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cuttle >
your brain uses like a 3rd of your calories
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alexgordon >
prophile: and computers are not?
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cuttle >
it seems weird to me that computers and brains use energy at all
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alexgordon >
cuttle: I thought the liver used the most power
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cuttle >
like i mean obviously they do
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cuttle >
but like they're just doing stuff with information, not moving big ol heavy things around
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prophile >
alexgordon: no, they're generally very predictable and they can't tie themselves in knots in normal operation
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prophile >
computers segfault, they don't get depressed
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prophile >
or schizophrenic
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alexgordon >
prophile: you've obviously not used iTunes
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cuttle >
obviously brains and computers are good at different things
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prophile >
fuck iTunes
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prophile >
and everything about it
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cuttle >
it's so crazy
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prophile >
I tried to rent a movie from iTunes
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cuttle >
that we build an ecosystem of a bunch of things running simultaneously
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cuttle >
on top of like
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prophile >
I don't expect to have to wrestle the fucking thing to play it
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cuttle >
one instruction at a time
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cuttle >
one part of memory read at a time
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prophile >
I'm angry now alexgordon
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prophile >
I hope you're proud of yourself
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alexgordon >
itunes was pissing me off earlier
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alexgordon >
took 20 minutes to buy a fucking album
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cuttle >
alexgordon: we should talk about this in more detail sometime later
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cuttle >
i gtg pretty soon
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cuttle >
but i want to flesh it out
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alexgordon >
cuttle: yeah maybe later tomorrow
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cuttle >
going running
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
hi, all
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cuttle >
aw you just missed me :p
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cuttle >
want to discuss this with you too ELLIOTTCABLE
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cuttle >
when i get back
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
discuss what with me
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alexgordon >
ELLIOTTCABLE: cuttle is building a human brain
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alexgordon >
from scratch
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
wat.
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
That feel when you go into #ELLIOTTCABLE, and hear some new batshit for the first time,
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
and
*don't* discount it, 'cause it's in #ELLIOTTCABLE.
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alexgordon >
hahaha
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alexgordon >
ELLIOTTCABLE: cuttle has this idea for a processor design which is lots of little interconnected cores
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alexgordon >
like a brain
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joelteon >
i can do that
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joelteon >
just give me a girl and 9 months
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* ELLIOTTCABLE
pats joelteon
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alexgordon >
joelteon: technically wouldn't the girl be doing that?
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joelteon >
yeah but i had a hand in it
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alexgordon >
joelteon: kinky
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joelteon >
is cuttle gonna build this thing himself from scratch
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joelteon >
or will he use manufactured parts
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alexgordon >
nah it's just a design, cuttle doesn't own a fab (yet)
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
(yet)
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
why isn't cuttle rich yet
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alexgordon >
he will be
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
cuttle, go solve getting-rich. it's a problem, you shouldn't have a hard time.
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
it's certainly simpler than an optimizing compiler,
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alexgordon >
ELLIOTTCABLE: well gay marriage is legal now
01:04
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alexgordon >
1. Marry ELLIOTTCABLE
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
gods, no
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alexgordon >
if cuttle isn't running a small country in 5 years I'm going to be so disappointed
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
riiiiight
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
and that country better be in space.
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
otherwise I'll definitely be all ‘ಠ_ಠ.’ at him.
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alexgordon >
"cuttle, first president of the moon"
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joelteon >
i'd be hurt you guys don't think i'll be president of the moon
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joelteon >
but i'm still gonna be busy trying to fix this provision by then
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alexgordon >
joelteon: you might be high, but you're not THAT high
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
Please welcome His Excellence Micah Johnston, the Premier of MarsColony!
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joelteon >
oh is that who cuttle is
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ELLIOTTCABLE >
alexgordon: wat.
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alexgordon >
LOL joelteon
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joelteon >
well nobody told me
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cuttle >
hi ELLIOTTCABLE
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cuttle >
i am currently on mars
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cuttle >
did what you wanted
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cuttle >
ELLIOTTCABLE: also when cut.tl goes through, how will I get to it?
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cuttle >
OOH A FOLDER
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joelteon >
todd is the creepiest motherfucker
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cuttle >
joelteon: i know right
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cuttle >
ELLIOTTCABLE: CUT.TL IS UP CUT.TL IS UP
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Nuck >
cuttle: Why are you cuttle now?
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cuttle >
Nuck: because
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cuttle >
Nuck: i like cuttlefish
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cuttle >
Nuck: and cephalopods in general
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Nuck >
I swear, I leave and the people get crazier
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cuttle >
ELLIOTTCABLE: how to redirect cut.tl to cut.tl/e
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joelteon >
location / { return 301 /e }
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cuttle >
i don't think i have access to this
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cuttle >
i just put things in directories
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brry is now known as brr
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joelteon >
todd is creepy but
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joelteon >
would smash/10
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cuttle >
joelteon: you've seen the finale, right? just wondering
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joelteon >
i'm seeing it right now
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joelteon >
ok all done with breaking bad
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cuttle >
joelteon: how do you feel
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cuttle >
ELLIOTTCABLE: <3
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cuttle >
gnight each
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cuttle >
haha i just realized that's paws
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cuttle >
gnight(each)
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cuttle >
alexgordon:
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cuttle >
ELLIOTTCABLE:
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alexgordon >
cuttle
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cuttle >
how's it goin
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cuttle >
silk road got fucked
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cuttle >
tor is compromised
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cuttle >
nothing is safe anymore
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cuttle >
where will i get my designer drugs
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joelteon >
man, it really isn't fun to use super old versions of stuff
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alexgordon >
cuttle: tor is a good idea with a stupid implementation
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cuttle >
what's the implementation
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cuttle >
bbiab lunch
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alexgordon >
cuttle: using browsers
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alexgordon >
cuttle: with regular html
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cuttle >
browers are shite
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alexgordon >
they should have used a restricted subset of XHTML
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alexgordon >
and specialist browsers
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fwg >
unfortunately, the guy only new PHP
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cuttle >
fwg: haha yeah
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joelteon >
ok i am here
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joelteon >
i'm the only sysadmin at work for the rest of the week
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fwg >
syphon off documents, leave for Hong Kong
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alexgordon >
so my new approach for learning languages
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alexgordon >
take a book (something well known, harry potter is a good one)
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alexgordon >
then take out all the nouns and other content words you can translate easily
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alexgordon >
leaving in the function words
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alexgordon >
read that
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alexgordon >
the content words in english should provide enough context to work out what's happening, but the foreign function words ensure you're thinking in the language
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cuttle >
alexgordon: that's a good point
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cuttle >
yeah function words are the ones you have to have on a more unconscious level
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alexgordon >
cuttle: yeah for sure
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alexgordon >
function words ARE language
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alexgordon >
since no one person knows ALL content words in any language
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alexgordon >
but any fluent speaker must know all function words
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alexgordon >
cuttle: booking my ticket!
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cuttle >
alexgordon: oh shit nice
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cuttle >
joelteon: sweet jazz concert
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joelteon >
guys, i want to draw a nice bar graph
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joelteon >
what should I use
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alexgordon >
joelteon: with what data?
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joelteon >
six numbers
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alexgordon >
joelteon: photoshop?
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joelteon >
nah, that's a lot of work
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joelteon >
maybe i'll use d3
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cuttle >
mathematica
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joelteon >
good idea
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alexgordon >
why didn't I think of that
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joelteon >
i need mathematica though
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alexgordon >
joelteon: excel?
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alexgordon >
google docs?
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joelteon >
google docs!
21:52
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joelteon >
of course
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joelteon >
brilliant
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cuttle >
looks like numpy has good stuff
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cuttle >
or whatever he's using to visualize
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cuttle >
ate too much lunch -_-
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joelteon >
google docs does REALLY nice graphs
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cuttle >
oh i didn't know that
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cuttle >
they tend to have not nice things so that's surprising/good to know
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