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<purr> <ec> lung disturber.
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<alexgordon> LOL
<purr> LOL
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<purr\Paws> [Paws.js] ELLIOTTCABLE pushed 2 new commits to Master: https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/Paws.js/compare/bf9b7a2e5a43...d016264876a1
<purr\Paws> Paws.js/Master 759acd1 elliottcable: (new module meta) Adding blessed / termcap for the executable
<purr\Paws> Paws.js/Master d016264 elliottcable: (new exe incomplete) Setting up some basics for the CLI
<joelteon> i need a neat prompt character
<joelteon> who wants to recommend one
<devyn> joelteon: -
<joelteon> good idea
<devyn> mine is
<devyn> [devyn] ~ -
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> mine is
<joelteon> path $
<devyn> lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> i had a bunch of shit in it
<joelteon> but then i realized that reading my zshrc was taking almost a second
<joelteon> and drawing the prompt took almost 0.5
<devyn> I don't like complicated prompts anyway
<joelteon> which is fucking crazy
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> not me anymore
<devyn> the [devyn] isn't really necessary either, but I felt that just path - was too short
<devyn> especially since I have a little project system, where I can set a "project directory" and if I'm inside that directory, paths are relative to it
<devyn> i.e. if I `proj devyn/maru`, that's like `cd ~/Projects/devyn/maru` and then PBASE=$PWD
<devyn> PBASE is the project base dir, and if it is set, and I am in that directory or a subdirectory, prompts now look like this:
<devyn> [devyn] maru -
<devyn> [devyn] maru/subscriber -
<devyn> instead of
<devyn> [devyn] ~/Projects/maru/subscriber -
<devyn> er
<devyn> [devyn] ~/Projects/devyn/maru/subscriber -
<devyn> because that's too fucking long
<devyn> :p
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> what i did was
<joelteon> shorten every parent dir to one character
<devyn> I even have `pd <proj>` = `proj devyn/<proj>`
<devyn> so really I just `pd maru`
<joelteon> also, now i load rbenv on demand
<joelteon> rather than at startup
<joelteon> using chpwd()
<devyn> er, what's rbenv
<joelteon> ruby version manager
<devyn> oh rvm
<devyn> yeah it's a bitch
<joelteon> it's the jetski to rvm's aircraft carrier
<joelteon> but they're both annoying
<joelteon> helpful, but too much overhead
<devyn> I only use rvm on OS X
<joelteon> rbenv isn't rvm btw
<devyn> on Arch I just use the builtin packages
<joelteon> well yeah
<joelteon> i would do that, but our projects at work use different ruby versions
<devyn> I do most of my dev on Arch again - oh
<devyn> I see
<joelteon> i'm gonna implement a similar thing for hsvm soon
<joelteon> once i can figure out how to make it pick up .ghc-version
<devyn> lol, that's a thing?
<purr> lol
<joelteon> or something
<joelteon> well
<joelteon> i wrote it
<joelteon> so yeah
<devyn> heh
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<devyn> so then is 2.0 compatible with some of your 1.8 code or something?
<devyn> incompatible*
<joelteon> lol
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> the whole app is 1.8
<joelteon> i started the project to move it to 1.9
<joelteon> it's a PAIN
<joelteon> in my ASS
<devyn> really? that bad? huh. well, they did clean up a lot of the threading stuff
<joelteon> yeah, it's that bad
<joelteon> it was written awhile ago
<joelteon> and it's
<joelteon> hang on
<joelteon> lemme cloc
<joelteon> 64,000 lines of ruby, which isn't a lot
<joelteon> but it's still annoying, plus dependency hell
<devyn> that's kind of a lot of ruby
<devyn> equivalent to 500 000+ lines of C...
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> GHC is 150,000 lines of haskell
<joelteon> do I like d/H/joelteon or ~/d/H/joelteon
<devyn> for a while I just did away with hierarchy altogether and only took the basename
<joelteon> aaand, do i want to ls directories when i enter them, or not
<joelteon> no
<devyn> I don't, and here's why:
<joelteon> that's annoying
<devyn> I have a really, really bad habit of just 'ls'ing all the time anyway, when I'm idle
<devyn> even if nothing has changed
<devyn> and I think many other people do too
<devyn> :p
<joelteon> that's not a bad habit
<devyn> well there isn't really a good reason to do it, so
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> but it's easier to context switch for your brain
<joelteon> because you don't have to memorize the directory contents
<devyn> erm, I'm talking about multiple 'ls' invocations all on screen at the same time, often sequentially
<joelteon> oh
<devyn> as in
<devyn> $ ls
<devyn> $ ls
<devyn> $ ls
<devyn> lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> heh
<joelteon> ok never mind
<joelteon> wow, I FINALLY found the zle function for moving forward one word
<joelteon> it's called
<joelteon> "forward-word"
<devyn> yeah well I discovered, much to my horror, that recent versions of Outlook still have OLE support
<joelteon> what's that
<joelteon> i should probably add hostname
<joelteon> cause i use the same dotfiles on my VPS
<purr> <sephr> it was my sexy name
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<purr> <alexgordon> also I didn't know "Chains" was an attire
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<purr> <devyn> Nuck: …no, the IRC protocol doesn't support rewriting history.
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<purr> <ellio> IT IS SO DELICIOUS I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH ALL OF THESE TINY WINDOWS
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<prophile> :~)
<prophile> :~~)
<prophile> :~~~)
<prophile> :~~~~)
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<purr> <joelteon> you don't realize how much pressure there is for the cool kids to rub their faces in poop these days
<purr> <alexgordon> only elliottcable could unwittingly name something after bloody anuses
<purr> <elliottcable> hey dnyy come be a huge faggot with me
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<alexgordon> guys
<alexgordon> ?
<alexgordon> GUYS!
<joelteon> hi
<purr> joelteon: hi!
<joelteon> apparently nobody uses haskellmode-vim
<joelteon> and thus by asking questions i am angering the gods
* alexgordon is so tired
* alexgordon works on furrow to relax
<alexgordon> where did I get last time
<joelteon> yes
<alexgordon> oh yeah I was planning all the classes that make up the compiler
<alexgordon> and I agreed with whitequark to ignore the module/build system stuff until later
<alexgordon> sooooo
<alexgordon> what is a compiler?
<alexgordon> what classes do you need or one
<alexgordon> *for
<alexgordon> lexer
<alexgordon> parser
<alexgordon> diagnostics
<alexgordon> parse tree
<alexgordon> semantic analysis
<alexgordon> maybe a more abstract tree representation
<alexgordon> perhaps more semantic analysis
<alexgordon> code generation
<alexgordon> then imports are particularly painul
<alexgordon> *painful
<whitequark> wow so much terms so knowledgeable
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> I'm planning!
<whitequark> well, seriously, what I'm saying is
<whitequark> what's *new* in your language?
<alexgordon> nothing!
<alexgordon> absolutely nothing
<whitequark> then why the hell are you writing it?
<alexgordon> I'm not making a novel language, I'm just making a *good* language
<whitequark> good is not enough
<whitequark> well, no, bad phrasing
<whitequark> what do you want to achieve with a good language?
<alexgordon> I want to stop having to worry about which language to use ;)
<whitequark> I'm not sure you will achieve that
<whitequark> unless you don't want, ever, to collaborate with anyone
<joelteon> when did shibe become a thing
<whitequark> if I were you though
<alexgordon> whitequark: eh maybe, but languages HAVE taken off
<joelteon> it's the dumbest, laziest form of humor
<whitequark> I'd just look at LLVM and copy its infrastructure
<whitequark> (which I did)
<alexgordon> yeah
<whitequark> alexgordon: then we're on entirely another level
<whitequark> "what language needs to take off"
<whitequark> and just "good" is clearly not enough
<whitequark> *everything* in history proves that
<alexgordon> tbh it's compatible with C++ so it doesn't really matter if I'm the only person using it
<alexgordon> that's part of its appeal as an implementation
<whitequark> what does it give you over C++?
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<alexgordon> nothing yet, it doesn't exist ;)
<whitequark> in theory
<alexgordon> but I'd like to use it to implement a very nice FP standard library
<alexgordon> akin to haskell's
<alexgordon> the point of furrow is to make a language I know won't be crap, then to innovate with everything else
<whitequark> I don't think this works
<whitequark> languages are densely interconnected (if it isn't lisp. and even if it is.)
<alexgordon> it does for me. 100% of the time when I decide not to use a language its because it has shitty infrastructure
<whitequark> no, the innovation part
<joelteon> i'm starting to lose patience with people
<whitequark> the rest will be slowing you down and dictating how you should write it
<alexgordon> whitequark: well I control the whole system so
<whitequark> rich infrastructure, even more so
<joelteon> "here, look at this amazing vim plugin I wrote"
<joelteon> "can it do this incredibly basic thing?"
<joelteon> "no, but it looks neat"
<joelteon> repeat ad infinitum
<joelteon> go choke on a bucket of roosters
<alexgordon> whitequark: I don't really see the problem. As long as furrow is rich enough to express a whole standard library, and the module system is well designed that I can make a good build system, then I can innovate in those parts
<alexgordon> you're right that it's interconnected but that's what makes the idea work. I don't need to innovate in the language for the whole system to be innovative
<alexgordon> hm, do I need to support compilation of multiple modules in one invocation of compiler process?
<alexgordon> probably..... not
<purr> <alexgordon> DIPSY IS HOT
<alexgordon> did I say that?
<whitequark> alexgordon: I don't think that language and its stdlib are separate
<whitequark> imagine Ruby without its stdlib. imagine Ruby with an alternative stdlib. will it be significantly different? hell no
<whitequark> for it to be significantly different, you need to be able to extend the language with libraries
<whitequark> i.e. see the lisp passage above
<alexgordon> so what are you saying
<whitequark> you're doing something pointless, and most certainly you're doing a bug-ridden, incomplete and ad-hoc specified version of C++
<alexgordon> LOL
<purr> LOL
<alexgordon> that's just not true. furrow is not like C++ at all
<whitequark> you're aiming for C++ interop
<whitequark> I dunno how much experience you have with that, but for C++ interop you need to be rather close to C++
<alexgordon> depends
<whitequark> semantically.
<alexgordon> if you want make use of arbitrary C++ code you need that
<alexgordon> but that's not what I mean
<whitequark> you inherit C++ memory and execution model
<whitequark> RAII, exceptions, inheritance, etc
<alexgordon> C++ code can call furrow code (because it compiles to C++). And furrow code can call C++ code that has a simple enough interface
<whitequark> well, you'll discover what I mean soon enough
<alexgordon> lol, I'm not aiming for full compatibility
<alexgordon> that would be horrific
<whitequark> it's not really about full compatibility
<whitequark> it's about mapping of semantics
<alexgordon> well C++ has functions right?
<whitequark> if it matches, all is cool. if it doesn't, it'll be awkward on C++ side and/or furrow side
<whitequark> C++ has procedures
<whitequark> and C++ sorta has closures
<alexgordon> I'm not going to butcher the language for the sake of this feature
* whitequark sighs
<whitequark> I used to think like you
<whitequark> except about C
<whitequark> which is definitely much, much simpler than C++
<whitequark> and nope, I still have to pay a significant cost for that
<alexgordon> well I used to think like *you* ;)
<whitequark> (in Foundry's case, it is partly UB and partly memory management; but the latter was at least expected.)
<alexgordon> that a language has to be innovative to be useful and well received
<alexgordon> but actually, that turns out to be most languages' downfall
<whitequark> um, did you change the subject?
<alexgordon> possibly, I'm not entirely sure what the subject is
<whitequark> actually, whatever
<whitequark> when you'll have an implementation, you'll see
<alexgordon> and when I have an implementation, *you'll see*
<whitequark> now I'm sorry, but I need to stop wasting time
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<alexgordon> sooooo where was I
<alexgordon> gah I feel like if I ignore import resolution bad things will happen further down the line
<alexgordon> but it's completely irrelevant at the moment
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<alexgordon> soooo at what point do you need import resolution
<alexgordon> the parser doesn't
<alexgordon> and you don't need them for simple semantic analysis
<alexgordon> I guess you need imports iff you need scopes
<alexgordon> or types
<alexgordon> aha
<alexgordon> so we can split the compilation into two halves based on that
<alexgordon> the first stage is everything from parsing to primary semantic analysis
<alexgordon> *then* you do import resolution
<alexgordon> mold it into a more abstract program representation
<alexgordon> then secondary semantic analysis
<alexgordon> and codegen
<alexgordon> the first half of the process having no dependence on anything but that one source file
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<alexgordon> yeah this looks perfect
<alexgordon> source file at hand and any external context are completely separated
<alexgordon> then I can do whatever in the future on the import cache without it causing problems
<alexgordon> hm I wonder how to stream diagnostics to the driver .py script
<alexgordon> eh not my concern right now
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<joelteon> jesus FINALLY
<joelteon> found a vein of diamond
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> i've found more emerald than diamond
<joelteon> but i do have 16 sheep, one of each color
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Guys. Jesus.
* ELLIOTTCABLE breathes
<ELLIOTTCABLE> seventy-some hours, straight, of caregiving to a post-surgical girlfriend in immense pain and experiencing extreme nausea.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I am so short on sleep and sanity it's not even funny.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Just handed her off to her mother at said-mother's insistence, she said “go take care of *yourself*, jesus, Elliott”
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so now I'm “taking care of myself” which means IRCing upstairs in the sunlight instead of sitting next to a puking girl on a bed in a dark cave of a room
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (apparently)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> need food don't know when I last ate >:
<alexgordon> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<purr> <alexgordon> like a place for really religious salmon to go
<alexgordon> yep
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<purr> <eboy> no one older than 34's name is devin
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<joelteon> so does she have cancer
<vil> she got her wisdom teeth out
<alexgordon> joelteon: I like the nonchalant way you put that, manages to be more insensitive than anything sephr has ever said
<joelteon> wait
<joelteon> she got her wisdom teeth out and that's what happened?
<vil> alexgordon++
<purr> Let it be known that vil loves alexgordon.
<joelteon> what did I do
<joelteon> i was just curious
<joelteon> that sounds like a chemotherapy sort of thing
<vil> some people have extremely adverse reactions to surgery
<vil> cuttle: you around? I have a thing for you: https://soundcloud.com/fuckmylife/shotty-vs-mau5
<cuttle> vil: ooh
<vil> not a huge fan of rap but dat instrumental
<cuttle> dude you gotta get into hip hoip
<cuttle> hip hop
<cuttle> it's literally the best
<vil> I can't work to it though
<vil> too distracting
* cuttle shrugs
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<cuttle> can you work to any music with singing
<vil> not really
<cuttle> ok
<cuttle> because i used to agree with that
<cuttle> but now i don't
<vil> only if I know it extremely well and it's somewhat repetative
<cuttle> ok
<vil> *repetitive
<vil> I probably could get used to it if I gave it long enough
<vil> the lyrics are often so terrible too though
<vil> and I mean, it takes a lot to make me uncomfortable
<cuttle> in hip hop?
<vil> I listen to skrillex and such after all, where the only samples are often expletives
<cuttle> well i mean there's a *huge* difference between say eminem and tyler the creator
<cuttle> and
<vil> right
<cuttle> grieves and brother ali
<cuttle> and stuff
<vil> I can't stand tyler the creator, my sister listens to him
<vil> but like, I LOVE Watsky
<cuttle> idk i don't like watsky at all
<vil> heh
<vil> I can take Macklemore in small doses
<vil> I like Can't Hold Us a lot
<cuttle> older macklemore is the only stuff i like in the same way as the rest of hip hop
<cuttle> i mean like the heist ain't *bad* as music, but
<cuttle> feels like a lot of people who like watsky and macklemore like them because they're like "oh it's rap minus all the black people and violence"
<vil> I just hate when people who obviously have talent still turn to stringing together swearing and sexism and etc
<cuttle> well what's wrong with swaering
<cuttle> yeah sexism is a problem
<vil> nothing
<cuttle> not everyone's bad though
<cuttle> here's something interesting:
<vil> it's mostly where the swearing is pointed that bothers me
<cuttle> before I was into hip hop
<cuttle> it was really hard for me to get past the surface level of it
<cuttle> swearing and shit
<cuttle> but now that that's like
<cuttle> the canvas
<cuttle> the white noise, so to speak, of the medium
<vil> mmm
<cuttle> then you can do so much interesting stuff on top of it
<cuttle> like
<cuttle> chance the rapper
<cuttle> i would have been scared of in the past
<cuttle> because of swearing etc.
<cuttle> now he's like, adorable to me
<cuttle> in a way
<alexgordon> cuttle!!!!!
<cuttle> alexgordon:
<alexgordon> cuttle: whitequark called furrow worthless, then he quat!
<cuttle> i saw
<vil> whitequark is a whitequark and is not to be taken seriously
<alexgordon> so I've been writing code
<alexgordon> going hyper top down. wrote the entire mail function :P
<alexgordon> *main
<alexgordon> now I just have to implement all those functions
<alexgordon> :P
<vil> haha
<vil> sometimes I do that too
<vil> then stuff changes and I have to redo everything anyway
<alexgordon> yeah helps me see the whole thing in my head
<vil> yep
<vil> that's why I do it anyway
<alexgordon> well compiler design is pretty well thought out already
<alexgordon> so it shouldn't change
<alexgordon> I'm doing this in textmate because I don't have chocolat on here
<alexgordon> damn it's annoying me
<alexgordon> keep expecting all the chocolat features
<vil> I want to get back to work on my app so much
<vil> just too much going on though
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<alexgordon> WHY THE FUCK DOES TEXTMATE HAVE A DRAWER
<vil> lol drawers
<purr> lol
<vil> why are they still a thing
<vil> they were never a good idea to start with
<cuttle> why are drawers bad
<cuttle> textmate file drawer is aight
<alexgordon> because they're not part of the window
<cuttle> basically the same as a pane
<vil> there's never anywhere to put them that isn't annoying
<vil> because their size acts different from the rest of the window
<cuttle> …same as panes
<cuttle> literally the only thing different is you don't have a dragging bar above them
<alexgordon> pages is not a code editor :P
<vil> and that they have the ability to push my windows around which nope
<alexgordon> also I hate the drawer in pages too
<alexgordon> so there
<alexgordon> :P
<cuttle> i did not say a thing about pages
<cuttle> why are we talking about pages
<cuttle> :p
<vil> if I hide a pane, the rest of the window fills up the space
<vil> if I hide a drawer, I have wasted screen space and have to fix that manually
* cuttle shrugs
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<vil> anyway this will all be irrelevant when I take over the world and ban overlapping windows
<vil> so cuttle what's the story behind your new nick?
<joelteon> woo
<joelteon> clothes shipment
<cuttle> vil: idk wanted some not real name names
<cuttle> and i like cephalopods
<vil> cool
<vil> so why'd you revert on the twittersphere?
<cuttle> idk
<cuttle> don't really know
<cuttle> lol
<purr> lol
<vil> :D
<vil> identity is hard
<vil> took me six months to decide on vilhalmer
<cuttle> vil: but yeah i love that deadmau5 instrumental
<vil> the one behind shotty?
<cuttle> yeah
<vil> yeah it's excellent
<vil> I've really been enjoying his diversions lately
<vil> he's locking himself in the studio again this week, should be more
<cuttle> coo
<vil> this is my favorite, about on par with Bleed: https://soundcloud.com/fuckmylife/somewhere-up-here-fin
<vil> it was interesting to watch his music follow his emotional state after he and Kat broke up
<vil> he always generates his best stuff when he's in a dark place
<vil> which sounds horrible, but
<joelteon> well, that's art
<vil> yep
<cuttle> i'm not that way
<cuttle> i have to like meticulously arrange my environment to feel creative
<cuttle> like yknow like making a cup of tea and shit
<vil> I wish I had a process
<cuttle> breakup type shit just imbalances me
<vil> yeah
<vil> programming is basically my only output, and I can't do it if I'm down
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<cuttle> well actually
<cuttle> programming is the one thing i can do when i'm down
<vil> actually flow state is pretty rare for me at all lately
<cuttle> and it invariably cheers me up
<cuttle> creative things like music and writing though
<cuttle> i have to be in a non self critical state
<joelteon> kek
<cuttle> like if i'm in a i hate everything about myself mood
<cuttle> i will immediately dismiss everything i make as stupid
<vil> mmm
<joelteon> i do that anyway
<joelteon> just cut out the middeman
<joelteon> middle
<joelteon> man
<cuttle> haha
<vil> an
<vil> n
<vil> k, back later
<vil> making pizza
<cuttle> coo have fun
<alexgordon> hi cuttle
<alexgordon> hm I should work backwards
<joelteon> yeah
* alexgordon starts on codegen
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> seems so wrong
<joelteon> i want to write a compiler
<alexgordon> joelteon: write one with me!
<alexgordon> :P
<joelteon> ok
<joelteon> what do i do
<alexgordon> hm
<alexgordon> write code
<joelteon> that does what
<alexgordon> any of the stages
<alexgordon> joelteon: you saw my main function earlier. each stage is a function
<alexgordon> so you start with source code and some compiler flags
<alexgordon> and end with output into say json
<joelteon> oh ok
<joelteon> neat
<alexgordon> joelteon: I'll push this to github soon
<alexgordon> got to clean it up a bit
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hi butts
<alexgordon> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
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<alexgordon> okaaay
<alexgordon> all the boilerplate is done
<alexgordon> now what
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<joelteon> so my void the brand shirt, uniqlo hoodie and pants, and lim shoes are here
<joelteon> i got stacks on stacks
<alexgordon> noooo idea what you just said
<joelteon> i bought some stuff
<alexgordon> ah!
<alexgordon> so hopefully clang will complain if I've fucked any of this up
<alexgordon> yeaaaah I need a parse tree
<alexgordon> could do the lexer though
<joelteon> is that yours
<alexgordon> yeah
<joelteon> are you fileability
<joelteon> huh
<alexgordon> yeah
<joelteon> neat
<joelteon> where have i seen you before
<alexgordon> erm
<alexgordon> here?
<alexgordon> I made chocolat?
<joelteon> no, fileability
<alexgordon> I dunno
<joelteon> not alexgordon
<alexgordon> Ingredients?
<joelteon> oh wait you made chocolat?
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> you and jeannicolas
<joelteon> or whatever it was
<alexgordon> yes
<joelteon> i forgot about all that
<joelteon> is it still in active development
<joelteon> i haven't used non-vim editors in a long time
<alexgordon> yep just released a new version a week or two ago
<joelteon> neat
<alexgordon> hard to make the parser and lexer without building them from the design
<alexgordon> ok skip that bit
<alexgordon> same with cleaner
<alexgordon> after that is simple_sema
<alexgordon> can't do that without an ast
<alexgordon> and same for the rest
<alexgordon> so really, I'm done!
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> except for, I need an AST and a parser and lexer
<alexgordon> shouldn't be hard
<joelteon> ASTs are fun
<alexgordon> yeah
<alexgordon> but first, a lexer
<alexgordon> lexers are easy
<alexgordon> so we have keywords operators and tokens
<joelteon> wow 122 followers
<joelteon> i'm not that important
<alexgordon> haha
<joelteon> uh where do i find the xcode docsets
<joelteon> ingredients won't
<joelteon> find them
<alexgordon> no idea
<alexgordon> haven't updated it for years
<joelteon> oh
<joelteon> there are a bunch of docsets in ~/Library/Developer/Shared/Documentation/DocSets
<joelteon> but apparently that's not good enough
<alexgordon> yeah I can't remember any of it now :\
<joelteon> oh it hasn't been updated in awhile
<joelteon> not for xcode 5, huh
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hi
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: hi!
<joelteon> ok, i need something to work on
<joelteon> cause i'm going to starbucks
<alexgordon> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> one of these days ELLIOTTCABLE is going to say something other than hi
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hi
<purr> ELLIOTTCABLE: hi!
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<whitequark> YES, finished the part I've been procrastinating on for a week
<alexgordon> ... your penis?
<whitequark> now let's have a war, have a holy holy war
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