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<alexgordon> prophile: fun isn't it
<prophile> can't tell if they've broken RSA or
<joelteon> man just what the fuck
<joelteon> what the fuck
<alexgordon> prophile: there was a comment on HN asserted that
<alexgordon> a few weeks ago
<alexgordon> bit tinfoil, but I don't know what to believe anymore
<alexgordon> hm wait, wrong one
<alexgordon> I tweeted it somewhere...
<alexgordon> aha
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<vil> someone mentioned on Twitter that it might be more likely to assume that they have SSL root certs
<vil> which makes a lot of sense
<vil> either way, fuck
<joelteon> wow
<joelteon> upstart is WAY easy
<joelteon> why isn't everybody using it?
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<jesusabdullah> spite
<joelteon> is there a good reason, though?
<joelteon> cause i'm tempted to convert everything i'm running to upstart
<jesusabdullah> I mean
<jesusabdullah> what are you using now?
<jesusabdullah> ubuntu is based on upstart, fedora off systemd
<jesusabdullah> you're probably using one of those, or some sub-process-managing-thing for whatever reason
<jesusabdullah> I guess the biggest advantage there being a consistent job language across multiple types of machines
<jesusabdullah> but yeah upstart and systemd are both easy
<jesusabdullah> and good
<joelteon> systemd
<joelteon> everything i install is using init scripts still
<jesusabdullah> oh, yeah, init scripts are the lowest common denominator, they're almost guaranteed to work everywhere
<jesusabdullah> both upstart and systemd support sysv scripts for compatibility
<joelteon> well FUCK init scripts
<jesusabdullah> yeah these days if you want "full coverage" outside a few edge cases an upstart and systemd conf is enough to support most
<jesusabdullah> if you're interested in supporting other peoples' use cases
<jesusabdullah> for your own shit just do upstart and call it a day
<joelteon> nah, fuck other people
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<whitequark> because poettering
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<vil> Nuck: dunno if you're around but rule 899 through 899.4 made me think of you: http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
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<micahjohnston> vil: hooray transphobia
<vil> yeah
<joelteon> is that a fear of transportation
<jesusabdullah> if not it should be
<vil> micahjohnston: how's college so far?
<joelteon> cause i'm scared of planes
<joelteon> do i have transphobia
<vil> um no
<jesusabdullah> no that's planeophobia
<joelteon> oh
<joelteon> ok
<jesusabdullah> transphobia is a fear of ALL non-walking forms of transportation
<vil> you have aviophobia
<vil> or aerophobia or aviatophobia
<vil> apparently they were being indecisive that day
<joelteon> heh
<micahjohnston> vil: pretty fuckin sweet
<vil> :D
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<alexgordon> LOL "is that a fear of transportation"
<purr> LOL
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: transphobia? in MY #elliottcable?
<jesusabdullah> alexgordon: it's the 2010s, travel is a part of life GEEZ
<alexgordon> jesusabdullah: I refuse to accept trams as a valid form of transportion
<alexgordon> fucking trammies
<jesusabdullah> inorite
<jesusabdullah> srsly though, how did transphobia even come up I'm confused
<alexgordon> no idea
<alexgordon> vil said something
<alexgordon> TO THE LOGS
<jesusabdullah> and like
<jesusabdullah> that no sense made :(
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: EXPLAIN YOURSELF
<vil> alexgordon: see rule 899 on that page
<joelteon> what does it say
<vil> I said that it reminded me of Nuck
<joelteon> that's blocked here
<vil> joelteon: haha, for good reason
<alexgordon> OH
<alexgordon> MY
<alexgordon> FUCKING
<alexgordon> GOD
<alexgordon> photoshop now supports native text rendering
<joelteon> what's it say though
<joelteon> oh it does?
<joelteon> what verison
<joelteon> CS12
<jesusabdullah> oh I see
<alexgordon> the latest
<vil> "No one intentionally sees their first dickgirl. No exceptions."
<jesusabdullah> I mean
<jesusabdullah> I'm sure someone's into that
<alexgordon> gah
<alexgordon> false alarm
<vil> right, micahjohnston was pointing out that that's a bad term though
<alexgordon> it's not native text rendering :P
<vil> which I agree with
<joelteon> why haven't they come out with a new photoshop yet
<jesusabdullah> well yeah
<vil> but it still reminded me of Nuck
<vil> because Nuck
<alexgordon> joelteon: they did
<alexgordon> joelteon: recently
<joelteon> which one
<jesusabdullah> are you telling me that nuck is a dickgirl
<alexgordon> joelteon: CC
<joelteon> oh
<alexgordon> the Last™ one
<vil> I will defer to him on that
<joelteon> what is CC
* vil goes back to scripting
<alexgordon> joelteon: subscription
<joelteon> i'm googling hard
<alexgordon> perpetual updates
<alexgordon> joelteon: creative cloud
<alexgordon> joelteon: you pay $20/month and get updates for eternity
<joelteon> is it like photoshop or elements?
<alexgordon> it's normal photoshop
<joelteon> oh
<joelteon> does it support retina now?
<alexgordon> no idea
<joelteon> lol
<purr> lol
<jesusabdullah> Reminds me
<jesusabdullah> other day I was at a village in with my roommate
<jesusabdullah> and there was a couple sitting near us that was either two cross-dressing men or two old m2f transsexuals
<jesusabdullah> and my roommate was like
<jesusabdullah> "dude are those men or women I can't tell" and I'm like, *shrug*
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<jesusabdullah> I figure, if you're willing to be yourself despite knowing that people like my roommate are going to be staring, well shit you must be pretty tough
<jesusabdullah> or at least give zero fucks
<jesusabdullah> that gets accolades in my book
<jesusabdullah> purr: *shrug*
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<jesusabdullah> I guess this is what I get for not living in san francisco
<alexgordon> joelteon: but yeah, it doesn't do proper antialiasing
<alexgordon> it does black and white only
<alexgordon> no subpixel
<joelteon> .
<joelteon> well you shouldn't need subpixel on retina
<alexgordon> true
<alexgordon> how is it
<alexgordon> that photoshop's layer styles is still as crappy as it was in Photoshop *7*
<joelteon> well
<joelteon> why doesn't anybody else make layer styles?
<joelteon> that's what I want to know
<alexgordon> they do
<joelteon> because they're useful sometimes
<joelteon> who does
<alexgordon> every web designer ever
<joelteon> no
<joelteon> i mean applications
<joelteon> that have layer styles
<alexgordon> ?
<alexgordon> how can you have a layer style in an application
<joelteon> photoshop does layer styles
<joelteon> pixelmator doesn't
<joelteon> gimp doesn't
<alexgordon> oh
<alexgordon> right
<alexgordon> yeah
<alexgordon> I dunno I think they all think that everybody uses Photoshop for Photography
<joelteon> everyone uses Photoshop for web design
<alexgordon> I know
<alexgordon> but there's this perception that Photoshop is for photos
<joelteon> heh
<joelteon> that's ridiculous
<alexgordon> joelteon: but anyway, what I want to know is why it's been so many years and I still can't create mutliple drop shadows
<joelteon> because they're busy charging $900 for it
<alexgordon> or put layer styles on a layer group (you can do this shittily with smart objects)
<alexgordon> joelteon: well it's $20 now :P
<joelteon> oh yeah
<alexgordon> I miss CS3 :(
<alexgordon> I used to be so fast at it
<joelteon> i miss when they had imaginative items on the icons
<alexgordon> it's very weird this MDI they have
<alexgordon> the whole app is one window
<alexgordon> creeping me out
<alexgordon> this is the ugliest website ever LOL
<purr> LOL
<micahjohnston> steam steam steam
<micahjohnston> hotline miami
<micahjohnston> <3
<alexgordon> micahjohnston is getting steamy in here
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<purr\GH> [System] ELLIOTTCABLE pushed 1 new commit to Master: https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/System/commit/89d23f143d7ce54a0e636e7cc569ba490680aa7f
<purr\GH> System/Master 89d23f1 elliottcable: (re fix) Re-arranging my key-drive
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<purr\GH> [System] ELLIOTTCABLE pushed 1 new commit to Master: https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/System/commit/24d66644f158e158785543d1bc5ba21799c29dac
<purr\GH> System/Master 24d6664 elliottcable: (- re) Un-hiding ssh-key files in my usb-key
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<whitequark> hahahaa
<whitequark> Nuck: can you figure out what's wrong with this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2qZLWj40h0
<whitequark> from the video only.