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<waxwing> interesting idea being explained: using "ZKBoo" to solve the problem of linkages of hash preimages in HTLCs
<nsh> where?
<sipa> scaling bitcoin, i assume
<aj> yeah scaling bitcoin, seems the same as https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2015-November/000309.html except more implemented. the conflict of privacy with deadlock avoidance is kinda interesting though
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<aj> https://github.com/ebfull/lightning_circuit seems like it has a much improved proof size than the talk or that email too fwiw (haven't verified)
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<nsh> ty
<waxwing> 1.6MB was the quoted size for a single hop, in the talk, fwiw. seems like too much bandwidth maybe?
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<aj> waxwing: ebfull's numbers reduce it to 100s of bytes, assuming they're accurate. both are better than my original attempt at ~100MB :)
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<kanzure> what is the zkboo paper
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<aj> kanzure: https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/820.pdf is the paper for pablo's talk i think, it has references for zkboo and pyZKBoo++ implementation if that's what you want?
<aj> err, pedro
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