lkcl changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net
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<Not_Jesus> wow
<Not_Jesus> eoma68\Libre Tea people really make it difficult to find them
<Not_Jesus> im suprised they dont have a jazzy website like pocketCHIP and some nice branding
<Not_Jesus> cant find a twitter for it even
<Not_Jesus> only website is rhombus-tech.net?
<Not_Jesus> great comic strip but geez the site looks like its from the 90s
<Not_Jesus> the libre tea is so forward thinking and revolutionary but there isnt branding that shows that
<Not_Jesus> so hard to find anything about it other than links to the crowdsupply
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: i'm a software libre developer, and there are zero (0) other additional people full-time helping out. everybody is volunteers, and has been for the past 5 years.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: also, being a software libre developer has certain ethical implications. the only reason i maintain a facebook account is because i have clients for whom facebook is absolutely essential for their business
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: also, as an extremely busy software libre developer who has been focussing on getting designs ready, i do not have spare additional time or resources for marketing.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: i have time to do 100% focus on getting the designs and EOMA68 ready... or i have time to 100% focus on marketing.... but not both. both are full-time jobs.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: so, if you'd like to help with one of those tasks, please do
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<Not_Jesus> lkcl, i get the not using facebook, i love libre tehc
<Not_Jesus> but twitter is good for projects like this
<Not_Jesus> also
<Not_Jesus> a nice website is too
<Not_Jesus> especially for when doing a crowdfunding event
<Not_Jesus> pocketCHIP does great with all those
<Not_Jesus> and its libre
<Not_Jesus> im just saying this because i love the idea for libre tea and want it to be very succesful
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: they have lots of funding, i know the people behind the CHIP.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: i have time either to do a nice website, or i have time to do the designs - i don't have time for both
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: the current web site is a means by which i may make notes, use it as a big TODO list and so on. it's stored in a git repository which i can manage and push.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: if there was even one extra person working full-time on this, they could do all the things that you are saying should be done
<Not_Jesus> what do the volunteers work on?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: but we do not have even 5% of an additional full-time person
<Not_Jesus> also how much of it is created?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: they do what they want to and what they have time to do.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: sorry, what is "it"?
<lkcl> sorry, i don't follow
<Not_Jesus> the eoma68
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: 100% of the eoma68 computer card, laptop, and micro-desktop units. those are the complex ones.
<Not_Jesus> you already have working ones?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: the only ones that haven't been created are the two (incredibly simple) additions of the break-out board and pass-through card
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: yes, of course - otherwise i would not have gone to launch.
<Not_Jesus> pass through course?
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<Not_Jesus> how many are created?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: the videos can be seen online on youtube, searching for "eoma68"
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: do you mean "how many of each prototype in each device category were made?"
<Not_Jesus> yeah
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: 5 EOMA68-A20 computer cards were made - i only have one left that works, as the others were damaged during the prototyping of the laptop's PCBs
<Not_Jesus> im interested in working on a site for the project
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: 5 Micro-Desktop units were made - only two of those left are working (one is with crowd supply, the other i use for demos)
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: the laptop PCBs i assembled myself on a budget - there is only one set
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: great!
<Not_Jesus> are you the founder of the project as well?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: it could do with a big reorg
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: yes.
<Not_Jesus> are their any design principles or chosen colors for the Libre Tea?
<Not_Jesus> any branding stuff
<Not_Jesus> also
<Not_Jesus> lkcl, what operating system is planned to be installed by default?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: there are 4 available and tested
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: FreeBSD is also on the TODO list, as is SUGAR (from OLPC)
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: btw one of the reasons for the current web site design is because it is recognised instantly and immediately by software libre developers.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: the CHIP team are **NOT** cognizant of libre software development or why it's important: i know who they are, and i know that they are interested in financially exploiting the low cost of the Allwinner R8, first, foremost and near-exclusively
<Not_Jesus> could you send me media i could use for the site?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: everything's checked into a git repository: if you send me an ssh public key i can give you direct access to it, and you can pull everything (the entire site source code)
<Not_Jesus> ok check pm
<Not_Jesus> also could you use your eoma68 and test morph.is on it?
<Not_Jesus> its a distributed file hosting like ipfs with an email replacement\irc replacement ready and lots of new things
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: cool. do you have a cubieboard2 or any other ARM-based embedded board?
<Not_Jesus> not yet
<Not_Jesus> i order a CHIP and will be ordering a Libre Tea
<Not_Jesus> i ordered*
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: reason i ask is, any board that has an ARM processor you can use to test morph.is
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: cool!
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: i'd be interested to know if the Allwinner R8 has a proper full GPL software stack down to the bedrock.
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: hmmmm.... morph.is is a decentralised distributed database, right? soo.... i could drop any "data" into it that i wanted, right?
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: reason i ask is, have you heard of Bob Podolski and his book, "Flourish"?
<Not_Jesus> yeah you could
<Not_Jesus> and no i havnt
<Not_Jesus> explain?
<lkcl> great!
<lkcl> ok, Bob Podolski is the advocate behind "Organised Anarchy" - decentralised guidelines on how to self-organise in an expandable fashion
<lkcl> morph.io might be the missing framework which allows contracts to be declared (and stored, and digitally-signed) between people
<lkcl> Not_Jesus: you're the developer behind morph.is right? for what i do, i would need a "signing" option that also refuses to accept "encrypted" incoming connections
<Not_Jesus> no im not the developer of morph.is
<Not_Jesus> thufir is
<Not_Jesus> on #morphis
<Not_Jesus> i help him with stuff
<lkcl> thufir: ahhh yeah i've heard of him.
<lkcl> can't remember where, but i've encountered him