<MistahDarcy>
Now we just gotta wait 'til the end of March.
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<ericxdu>
MistahDarcy, what to do until then. *sigh*
<MistahDarcy>
Develop apps for slow/older devices like the EOMA68 of course!
<MistahDarcy>
I can only imagine how awesome this thing would be inside of a cellphone shell running Replicant. Dreams...
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<ericxdu>
MistahDarcy: luckily I've been working on Pygames that run on the Raspberry Pi for a year or two
<ericxdu>
Quite likely they would run well on this arch
<ericxdu>
*will* run well
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<Putti>
wohoo! 101%
<damo22>
we'll need to compile stuff like mplayer for it optimized for the 2d engine right?
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<tanlaan>
lkcl: Congratulations on the crowd fund!
<ericxdu>
\o/
<tanlaan>
I would love to see a new video about the laptop as it comes to a full build and use case. I need to make one myself. If I have to time I'd love to do a build log/video log of going through the motions of making one from square one
<damo22>
i have a feeling it would be useful to create a qemu port of the whole compute card
<damo22>
so people can simulate the card before it arrives and compile stuff for it
<damo22>
there is already allwinner A10 soc emulation in there
<Putti>
I want to do my own casing for eoma68 (like 10 inch tablet). Do you have any recommendations for 3d printers?
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<lkcl>
tanlaan: thx
<lkcl>
damo22: you should be able to just run qemu-arm on any armhf image.
<lkcl>
Putti: it's down to the specs. make sure you have maximum 0.4mm nozzle (don't try 0.5mm or above). set layer height to 0.15 or below
<lkcl>
Putti: and use a corexy or a cartesian - please don't use a delta
<lkcl>
Putti: you'll need a minimum 200x200 and please consider getting some PrintBite (google it)
<Putti>
lkcl, thanks! I will need to look up what those means but will keep in mind when deciding which one to get :)
<lkcl>
Putti: also please do _not_ get filament from anyone other than Faberdashery.co.uk
<Putti>
lkcl, what 200x200?
<Putti>
millimeters?
<lkcl>
Putti: also consider getting a 3mm hot-end and make sure it can do over 300C - you might need to do nylon or PolyCarbonate for the hinges
<lkcl>
Putti: the print bed size. 200mm x 200mm minimum
<lkcl>
Putti: basically do your research *really* carefully. make sure you get a duet 0.8.5 or duet-ng controller board.
<lkcl>
DO NOT use ANY board that has "separate modules" for the motor controllers.
<lkcl>
Putti: DO NOT under ANY circumstances get a "RAMBO" or any other type of "modular" design.
<lkcl>
Putti: correct.
<lkcl>
Putti: are you subscribed to the mailing list? if not, please do, and also please can i ask you to document the above on a wiki page...
<lkcl>
i haven't got a mouse at the moment so can't go to the browser.... might be able to alt-tab to the right window and git commit you an initial page...
<lkcl>
Putti: awesome. ok. just committed a first version.
<lkcl>
alright eek 3:40am - sleep. just cut/paste the above i'll clean it up tomorrow
<Putti>
kk
<lkcl>
thxman. night!
<Putti>
yeah and good night :)
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<adrianlang>
Hi, I'm considering buying a computer card for plugging in our full HD projector via HDMI and connecting it via ethernet. My evaluation: For ethernet, I would need an USB ethernet adapter, for HDMI I would need a micro HDMI connector. Playback performance would depend on the codec, but should work well quite often with cedrus. Is that about right?
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<arossdotme-planb>
adrianlang, yes
<arossdotme-planb>
adrianlang, btw if your planning to use it as a media center with kodi then theres the problem of no 3d acceleration
<adrianlang>
I would probably either use terminal + plain X or a very simple window manager
<arossdotme-planb>
mpeg-al Mafia formats (h264,mpeg1/2/4/xvid) should be ok i think, i hope webm and ogv can or will be supported in da future if not already
<arossdotme-planb>
cool
<arossdotme-planb>
adrianlang, so will you be using some kind of video browser?
<arossdotme-planb>
if so id like to know what your planning on using :)
<adrianlang>
I haven't looked into media centers yet
<adrianlang>
I'm comfortable enough with plain files
<arossdotme-planb>
oh ok
<arossdotme-planb>
i do wonder about a CLI media center thingy heh
<arossdotme-planb>
but ya for your needs youll be fine
<adrianlang>
Oh, I would probably need audio output as well
<arossdotme-planb>
hdmi has audio other wise http://hifimediy.com/ make audiophile usb audio dongles
<arossdotme-planb>
direct from china, fairly priced
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<arossdotme-planb>
virtual simulation 7.1 usb sounds cards are noisy crap btw
<arossdotme-planb>
the sournd sound ones are ok for audio playback
<arossdotme-planb>
* surround
<adrianlang>
We have 2.1
<arossdotme-planb>
audio interface or speaker setup?
<arossdotme-planb>
then i guess your amp filters off the subwoofer frequency’s from the stereo input so i guess you only need a stereo usb audio interface
<fitzsim>
that's something that wasn't clear to me: will the EOMA-68-A20 be able to output audio over HDMI?
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<lkcl>
adrianlang: get the cable kit, it contains the micro-hdmi and special OTG-Host-Power cable
<arossdotme-planb>
fitzsim, i expect so, its part of the hdmi standard
<arossdotme-planb>
yea i remmber a20 does audio over hdmi
<fitzsim>
ok, one of the update videos -- gcompris, I think -- had no audio in the games
<arossdotme-planb>
that was for different reasons i believe
<fitzsim>
and I also saw mentions of USB audio dongles for audio elsewhere
<arossdotme-planb>
might be audio related software needs to be worked on maybe or that for gcompris audio related stuff needed working or or compiling
<fitzsim>
yeah, that's what I was wondering, where the limitation was
<fitzsim>
I'm wondering if a "card & cables" EOMA-68 connected via HDMI to a TV will have audio output for these gcompris games
<arossdotme-planb>
yea if the eoma-68 card does not have hdmi on the side which is a optinoal extra -only extra connections on the outer edge of the card are optional- the eoma-68 standard and those 68 pins on the eoma-68 connector are not optional btw
<arossdotme-planb>
i expect so, providing the software is sorted out, which i expect it will be at some point, its another thing on lukes todo list ;)
<fitzsim>
ah, ok -- glad to hear it's just a "simple matter of coding"
<arossdotme-planb>
so devices can do audio via usb audio or for a simper option i think the arduino-like thingy chip can do basic audio out.
<arossdotme-planb>
too
<arossdotme-planb>
usb audio has the advantage of its plug and plug/just works :)
<fitzsim>
yeah, but then you need a powered hub and extra speaker/headphone wires
<fitzsim>
but yeah, understood that there's lots of flexibility here
<arossdotme-planb>
(providing its usb audio class compliant which some pro stuff is not, but newer stuff i think is going the way of class compliant)
<arossdotme-planb>
i belive the laptop has audio built in
<arossdotme-planb>
the micro desktop doesnt, more basic in that regards
<arossdotme-planb>
maybe a little desktop in the future can have usb 7.1 built in :)
<arossdotme-planb>
like a what i like to call a mox -Media bOX-
<fitzsim>
yeah, that'd be nice; I like the "mini desktop" idea; I think I would miss integrated audio on the micro desktop
<arossdotme-planb>
so yea if your using a device, like the micro desktop or using the card standlone and if the card doesnt have micro hdmi like the a20 card then usb audio would be the easiest way to go
<arossdotme-planb>
micro desktop was something to get started with
<arossdotme-planb>
when ive thought about audio, ive realised that its not so simple cus do you add stero with or with-out mic? 5.1 or 7.1? which chip? audiophile level or cheap?
<fitzsim>
oh, completely agree
<fitzsim>
audio is insanely complicated, even though at first thought, it seems simple
<fitzsim>
I remember fixing a routing issue on my laptop and digging through alsa configuration -- it's amazingly detailed
<arossdotme-planb>
so i can see the attachion for why the micro desktop is as it is. sorry, ive pondered about audio decisions too, first time im sharing my ponders :)
<fitzsim>
is there a standard short handle for the A20 EOMA-28?
<fitzsim>
er, 68
<arossdotme-planb>
thats the spec of the stanard
<arossdotme-planb>
standard
<arossdotme-planb>
so EOMA-68-A20 is a eoma-68 compliant card feature the all winner a20 SOC/cpu/brain
<arossdotme-planb>
makes sense? me thinks this might have not been made as clear as maybe it should have been :) in the marketing
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<fitzsim>
yeah, that makes sense
<fitzsim>
it didn't matter to me; I funded 4 :-)
<fitzsim>
EOMA-68-A20 is fine
<fitzsim>
I think the general name got across the concept of creating a sustainable platform and ecosystem
<arossdotme-planb>
made sense to me but then ive followed the project from near the beginning so i have to wonder how/what new people see it/understand it
<arossdotme-planb>
arr good
<arossdotme-planb>
wow funded 4, more than me :) heh
<arossdotme-planb>
hmm mini desktop could be called a slang name of Mini ’D hehe
<mozzwald>
arossdotme-planb: we should make a replacement zipit eoma pcb
<mozzwald>
hm, except prolly cant get the lcd connector unless you buy bulk from manuf :(
<lkcl>
fitzsim: cool!
<lkcl>
mozzwald: i found a supplier willing to hand-make the cable for $20 each roughly they'd like me to make an order for minimum 100, ideally. i'll get some spares
<arossdotme-planb>
mozzwald, theres a discussion on the mailing list
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<arossdotme-planb>
lkcl, was there a post where you mention your initial motivations for starting the project and creating eoma-68? its deep in the mail list archive ant it?
<Gamayun>
Tsutsukakushi: Ah, right, yes :)
<Tsutsukakushi>
i was asking lkcl about such thing quite a few times...
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<arossdotme-planb>
i think it was not under a thread title. it was mixxed into replys to other stuff
<arossdotme-planb>
time to become a historian hay? :)
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<mozzwald>
lkcl: zipit specific cable? probably easier to incorporate same FPC on the replacement zipit/eoma mainboard. idea is to swap zipit z2 mainboard with a new one that has power/ports/keypad and 3d print new bottom shell. keep the rest of zipit same if possible
<mozzwald>
arossdotme-planb: i see a new discussion. is that the one? or is there some older zipit related one?
<arossdotme-planb>
mozzwald, yes
<arossdotme-planb>
no older one to my knowlage
<arossdotme-planb>
*knowledge
<mozzwald>
ok. I thought you'd be pushing a zipit eoma alreayd :D
<arossdotme-planb>
heh add a wiki page for it
<arossdotme-planb>
under community ideas
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<mozzwald>
it probably doesn't make sense anyway tho. can't really get them anymore
<arossdotme-planb>
eoma-68 cards are longer than the zipit eoma-cf would fit in the zipit sized square. eoma-68 i guess means having a extra wide or long zipit bottom case
<mozzwald>
i just want a upgraded zipit
<arossdotme-planb>
idk how much longer they are than the zipit
<arossdotme-planb>
so do i
<mozzwald>
or similar
<lkcl>
arossdotme-planb: somewhere....
<mozzwald>
i have a pcmcia modem here and it's smaller than zipit. depends on measurements of the socket I spose
<arossdotme-planb>
id buy it or if there isnt one id hack something togeather with a tiny usb hub and solder usb things together and a adfruit powerboost 2in1 thingy
<arossdotme-planb>
mozzwald, oow
<arossdotme-planb>
lkcl, somewhere? A. re past posts of initial motivations or B. zipit stuff?
<mozzwald>
k. i think it all comes down to the lcd connector. if we can't get them, it's not worth it. i have datasheet somewhere and need to figure out # of pins