<Hornet>
not sure if I'm in the right channel ... but what's the best option at the moment for android micro PCs for use as XBMC devices?
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<Turl>
hno: I found this website (in french) about sunxi, might contain interesting info http://www.sysfwlab.com/
<sv>
how can i make a hackberry use the third partition (aka mmcblk0p3) as rootfs instead of blk0p2? i tried editing boot.src in the boot partition to the third partition but it still booted to the main one
<slapin>
also, it is necessary to say, that these workers get lower salary than janitors, so I don't really blame them, but that doesn't make russian post any better
<orly_owl>
ah, that sucks
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<libv>
has anyone attached serial to the uhost already?
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<mnemoc>
libv: the berryboot guy had the brilliant idea (no it seems to obvius :| ) of using android's /dev/mem to get the dramc parameters (and made a toy for that)
<mnemoc>
s/no /now /
<ibot>
mnemoc meant: libv: the berryboot guy had the brilliant idea (now it seems to obvius :| ) of using android's /dev/mem to get the dramc parameters (and made a toy for that)
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<libv>
mnemoc: i asked hno about the same thing just the day before this code was posted :p
<mnemoc>
so it's simpler to add u-boot support now
<mnemoc>
*g*
<libv>
the xserver pokes registers over /dev/mem
<libv>
and so do all my little bits and bobs for register access
<ssvb>
mnemoc: well, it's kinda obvious, I wonder why nobody used that before
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<libv>
it will require root access though
<mnemoc>
android-sunxi comes with `su` by default
<mnemoc>
lichee2 and lichee3... always, no known exception. `su` and so /dev/mem has always been available
<mnemoc>
somehow we were mentally blocked to see boot1 as the only alternative
<mnemoc>
sh*t happens
<hno>
no, but I wrongly assumed /dev/mem was broken when you could not read/write from it like you can on x86.
<ssvb>
Turl: btw, do you happen to know if G2D is overclockable? Because it does not seem to be a clear performance win in all cases right now
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<mnemoc>
amazon.de only has atoms
<RaYmAn>
oh
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<rm>
amazon does not like russia
<rm>
from what I could tell they only ship like books and dvds here
<rm>
and even that only with Priority shipping (i.e. zomg-expensive)
<mnemoc>
maybe you can find someone in USA to receive it and forward it to you
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<mnemoc>
the ML has a bunch of junkies
<mnemoc>
yankees
<mnemoc>
buying from .co.uk you'll have to pay the VAT, that mostly doesn't exist when buying in usa
<rm>
there's a number or mail forward services
<rm>
specifically for US-only shippers
<rm>
but they are certainly far from free and I don't really trust them
<mnemoc>
that's why I suggested a fellow arm-netbook@-er
<specing>
lol @ "junkies"
<rm>
nah I don't need it that much to even hassle myself, let alone to hassle other people ^^
<mnemoc>
specing: :)
<Turl>
specing++
<mnemoc>
rm: I (ab)used a tele-coworker....
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<mnemoc>
but the damn chromebook was 2 weeks waiting in his house and now it has been another stuck in memphis
<mnemoc>
but if it saves me 70E I'm happy
<mnemoc>
rm: specing offers himself to forward one for you
<mnemoc>
:)
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<libv>
mnemoc: when buying from the .us you get to pay import tax/customs
<libv>
i once bought 6 morex mini-itx cases for my via unichrome hw, secondhand, from the .us for 25usd a pop
<libv>
postage was a whopping amount, but still doable...
<libv>
then i got to collect those at the nuremberg customs office which is 12kms away, and i got to pay 19% on cases _and_ postage
<libv>
end tally was like 55EUR a case
<mnemoc>
ouch
<mnemoc>
fortunatelly .es is very generous regarding not-express packages under 2kg
<mnemoc>
I'll see soon.... if it ever leaves memphis' post office :<
<libv>
40EUR dvi expansion module for some unichrome mini-itx board: another trek to the south for me
<libv>
19%
<libv>
weighs just a few grams
<libv>
same for the mele i got in june
<mnemoc>
.de and .uk are specially annoying import wise
<libv>
mnemoc: is it any wonder that germany is not that much of a target in the public debt """crisis"""
<mnemoc>
I received both of my meles directly at home, without any charge
<mnemoc>
libv: .es has lazines crisis
<mnemoc>
people simply doesn't know the meaning of the words "effort" and "work"
<mnemoc>
..... maybe that's why they don't control small packages
<mnemoc>
good for me
<libv>
yeah, the amount of taxes raised that way is rather negligable :)
<mnemoc>
.es is not studing to sell citizenships to anyone buying a 160k property to reactivate the economy... wtf
<mnemoc>
now
<mnemoc>
err
<mnemoc>
.es is now studing to sell citizenships to anyone buying a 160k property to reactivate the economy... wtf
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<Turl>
overall what .es needs is a saner govt :)
<mnemoc>
"people has the governments they deserve" (tm)
<rz2k>
britain and us doing that too, but tax is 1.5M and 3M I believe.
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<rz2k>
mnemoc: 140-160k is a price for cheap flat in old house in Moscow ghetto (and dont even ask about new flats in new houses), so they have a point providing that option.
<mnemoc>
actually they said they were targetting .ru and .cn people
<mnemoc>
but it feels whore-ish :<
<Turl>
nah
<Turl>
you can get .ar nationality if you want, for free, and we don't need you to buy a house or anything :) just saying
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<mnemoc>
Turl: it's a schengen passport, free movement across europe and easy access to most countries... at least until they kick us out because of the shameful economy and whore-ish attitudes
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<mnemoc>
passports are tools, not signs of culture or whatever
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<Turl>
same here, you can get easy access to all mercosur
<mnemoc>
.ar, .br and.... .ve?
<mnemoc>
but well... economy there is far better than here these days anyway
<Mehhh>
I just need to be able to use an image without a usb<->serial/ethernet
<Turl>
hno: ouch
<Mehhh>
wheezy that is
<Mehhh>
Is there a VM of the A10 env?
<Turl>
I don't think so
<mnemoc>
Mehhh: mount the card on your computer, copy qemu-static in and chroot
<Mehhh>
The problem is I have to run OTG mode because the usb cable is 4 pin
<Mehhh>
hrmmm
<Turl>
mnemoc: yeah but it isn't "an A10"
<Mehhh>
mk802
<mnemoc>
Turl: but it's its userspace ;-)
<mnemoc>
part of it
<Turl>
mnemoc: yeah but you cannot test framebuffer stuff :p
<mnemoc>
:)
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<captainigloo>
hi
<captainigloo>
there is a tool to change u-boot env from linux ?
<captainigloo>
on the mele a2000 and other a10 cards ?
<Mehhh>
Basically I just need visual CLI to import the DM / etc
<captainigloo>
for mtd NAND/NOR flash there is fw_printenv
<Mehhh>
with OTG in script.bin
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<Mehhh>
i don't think anything like that exists unless i want ubuntu and strip away packages
<Turl>
Mehhh: so you want framebuffer console?
<Mehhh>
That is what i was told i needed
<Turl>
enable it on the kernel and add console=tty0 on the kernel command line on uboot
<Turl>
and that should be it
<Mehhh>
I just need to be able to hook it up, in OTG for power / keyboard (lapdock) and download the packages from CLI
<Mehhh>
From the looks of it i'm going to have to gcc everything ahead of time
<ssvb>
mnemoc: thanks again for the mixer processor documentation, without it there would be simply no way to know how to implement ADD compositing operator
<mnemoc>
ssvb: :)
<Turl>
Mehhh: you need to cross compile the kernel yeah
<Turl>
compiling it on the MK802 would be too painful anyway :)
<mnemoc>
~4h
<mnemoc>
iirc
<Turl>
4h vs under 2 minutes, that'd be a lot of time wasted waiting :)
<slapin>
hno: but OOB still doesn't work for some reason...
<slapin>
hno: please explain me your findings about RCMD register
<ssvb>
mixer processor runs at half of the dram clock frequency, but appears that increasing its clock speed does not really help
<ssvb>
it looks like simple fill and copy operations behave like they are doing unnecessary read from the destination
<slapin>
hno: especially its value 0xe00530
<slapin>
hno: according to ONFI, after 05 command should be e0 command to read data
<slapin>
hno: also, how come E0 gets activated? there's SEND_CMD1 and SEND_CMD2 bytes there, but no CMD3...
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<slapin>
hno: ah, there is CMD3 and CMD3, but there's no reason of setting 0xe00530, as we semd 30 05 anyway which is not needed, as we need to send 05 ... e0
<slapin>
hno:
<slapin>
hno: my assumption about pages vs bytes was wrong - it really reads bytes ok, this is bad block scan doesn't work because reading of oob return zeroes, so that is, only single thing to fix.
<slapin>
gn, all!
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* slapin
gone
<slapin>
funny. nand read.oob works perfectly, unlike nand dump...
<hno>
slapin, it seems those are used by the NAND controller to perform seeks while reading the page.
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<hno>
I don't know the exact conditions yet but ECC is likely needed for those to get active.
<FreddyAV>
hi all
<FreddyAV>
the Pengpod project, that's drachensun's project right?
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<hno>
FreddyAV, yes
<FreddyAV>
anyone around?
<FreddyAV>
ahh thanks
<FreddyAV>
hno: do you know if that project has as an end goal to get the GPL code (much like the j1nx AmLogic thing on indiegogo has)?