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<Curtman> I've restarted a few times.. It seems good. As soon as the serial driver inits, console output stops, but login appears a few seconds later.
<libv> ok :)
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<rz2k> looks like those hiapad guys taking it seriously
<libv> hiapad?
<libv> i did most of my mali work on a haipad :p
<rz2k> they've told me that when product will come out they ship it with andoird, linaro and chromeos images, looks like they didnt lie :p
<libv> ah, a TV "dangle"
<rz2k> or they try to mock people again, but anyway, seems like cheap freescale imx6q board is on its way
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<hno> stefanro, yes the magic constant is to enable forced reload in bit 0.
<Turl> hno: can you boot arbitrary binaries from a PC host on uboot via serial?
<Turl> something like a way to transfer a binary via serial to ram and jump to it
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<Marex> Turl: yea ... XYZmodem ... we support all of them
<Marex> and also kermit
* Marex just saw "sparse" analysis of u-boot source and laid massive turd
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<Turl> Marex: is there support for any of them on screen?
<Marex> I think so
<Marex> I use minicom
<Turl> nevermind, I set minicom up already :)
<Marex> I think you can use lsrzs (whatever is that name)
<Turl> got my bashrc transfered :P
<Marex> lrzsz
<Turl> now I need to learn how to jump to it on uboot
<Marex> 'loady' command
<Marex> then [Ctrl-A] [S] ... select file, hit enter
<Marex> wait
<Turl> yeah I got that running
<Turl> I'm just missing the "jump" part
<Marex> either "bootm" or "go"
<Marex> depends on whether you want to boot uImage or start executing directly from some address
<Turl> go it is :) thanks Marex
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<libv> wiki it!
<Turl> will do when I get some code to run :)
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<Marex> libv: read the denx wiki, it's all there
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<Hornet> not sure if I'm in the right channel ... but what's the best option at the moment for android micro PCs for use as XBMC devices?
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<Turl> hno: I found this website (in french) about sunxi, might contain interesting info http://www.sysfwlab.com/
<sv> how can i make a hackberry use the third partition (aka mmcblk0p3) as rootfs instead of blk0p2? i tried editing boot.src in the boot partition to the third partition but it still booted to the main one
<Turl> Marex: hm, I cannot seem to be able to run the hello world standalone example
<Turl> nevermind, fixed it :)
<Turl> hno: please add to your tree http://sprunge.us/GNWF
<Turl> I'd send it to the ML but I haven't set up all the git emailing stuff on this computer yet
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<billytwowilly> so the rhombus tech website doesn't appear to be working...
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<hno> Turl, that "|| 1" is intentional, but should be part of another change obviously.
<hno> which tree is this?
<Mehhh> Is there a debian single image download?
<Mehhh> for the mk802
<orly_owl> hmmmmmmmmmm
<orly_owl> Mehhh: yes
<Mehhh> Is it in a torrent or a dl?
<orly_owl> dl it a dl
<orly_owl> *its a dl
<Mehhh> niceeeee oh man thank you
<Mehhh> Do you know by chance if this image has otg enabled?
<orly_owl> thank rm
<orly_owl> it's his site
<orly_owl> i suspect it does
<orly_owl> rm: does your mk802 image have otg enabled
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<hno> Turl, the guy working on some kind of small bare bone OS for F20 was seen here before.
<hno> billytwowilly, yes, it's DNS is temporarily unavailable. The content is meanwhile available on rhombus.hands.com
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<mnemoc> Turl: can you try to get him in? I don't know anyone else with a sun3i with uart
<libv> mnemoc: chances are that we will have to let the sun3i codebase go
<mnemoc> :(
<slapin> hno: hi!
<Mehhh_> Does anyone know how to access this without usb over ethernet converters?
<hno> slapin, hi hi!
<Mehhh_> or if there is an image with dhcp / X
<slapin> hno: any news? :)
<hno> slapin, not really. Any expected?
<slapin> hno: yeah
<slapin> hno: running RNDOUT leads to data abort, and READ0 works on bus, but reads zeroes from SRAM.
<Marex> nice
<slapin> hno: disabling RNDOUT seems help with D/A, but READ0 still reads zeroes.
<Marex> what's RNDOUT ?
<hno> slapin, at least I am no longer down with fewer. Will look into RNDOUT in the afternoon.
<slapin> Marex: 0x05 IIRC
<Marex> slapin: eh ?
<hno> sets current read column.
<Marex> oh
<hno> a flash operation.
<Marex> don't you pump that in single READ command ?
<slapin> hno: please look at both (why working READ0 produces zeroes in buffers)
<Marex> or is that some speciality of your particular nand controller?
<hno> Marex, is's a NAND command.
<slapin> Marex: it is important for reading e.g spare area
<libv> hno: stop talking bad about mali :p
<slapin> Marex: it is needed for everything if you read not from start of page
<hno> actually any time you want to read a page in random order.
<hno> not full sequential read
<Marex> ah ok
<Marex> random read
<Marex> I see
<Marex> how can you get DABT with READ0 though ?
<Marex> don't you supply some unaligned data or something ?
<slapin> Marex: we don't supply anything
<Marex> you program that into the registers and the data magically appear in some SRAM ?
<hno> Sorry guys, can't really chat now. Busy at paid work today.
<slapin> Marex: might be either some pointer issues when reading or controller does something weird with data...
<Marex> hno: some here ... just doing some paid stuff ;-)
* slapin too
<Marex> slapin: check R14, that's the pointer to the DABT location
<Marex> (abort R14, not svc32 R14)
<slapin> Marex: I know, I don't have jtag connected :)
<hno> the address was printed in the report you gave earlier.
<slapin> u-boot writes them out thankfully
<Marex> slapin: yes, u-boot is really a masterpiece of software engineering
<Marex> %^)
<slapin> aha...
<Marex> slapin: so .. fix it and send patch (tm)
<Marex> slapin: damn lazy bastard (tm) :)
<slapin> Marex: that's because these people enabled MMU on arm, which still amuses me
<Marex> slapin: urgh :-/
<slapin> Marex: stfu :)
<Marex> slapin: good old l4p days ... :'-)
<slapin> Marex: yeah
<Marex> slapin: can you not disable the MMU ?
<Marex> you need to do it before booting linux anyway
<hno> Why do the MMU cause problems here?
<slapin> Marex: it does, everything is ok
<slapin> hno: no problems here
<Marex> slapin: you see the DABT
<slapin> I explained why DA handler worked
<Marex> but I suspect it's some unaligned access ...
<slapin> DA itself is some problem with our code
<Marex> ok
<Marex> you cdont need jtag to figure out where it's broken
<hno> So a big IRC storm here about something working and providing useful debug output? :P
<Marex> just load u-boot (the elf binary) into gdb, run "bdinfo" on the board (or print the relocation offset in arch/arm/lib/board.c)
* slapin picked up bsb cards and is going to meeting
<Marex> oh ... good luck with BSB
<Marex> slapin: share them sometimes please
<Mehhh_> are there any wheezy images that have CLI video out
<Mehhh_> so that one doesn't have to usb<->ethernet
<Mehhh_> or is there a virtual machine so i can make my own image ahead of time?
<hno> Mehhh_, you really should try to get a serial console running.
<Mehhh_> i don't have a usb serial adapter
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<mnemoc> stefanro1: should I delete the wip/sunxi-next branch?
<stefanro1> mnemoc: thats perhaps better - otherwise it might confuse some users/developers not aware of the upstream version
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<libv> Mehhh_: if you follow firststeps, _and_ build the kernel with this info in mind: http://linux-sunxi.org/Framebuffer
<libv> you should get a console on hdmi
<libv> Mehhh_: with a usb keyboard, you should then be able to do the rest
<Mehhh_> :)
<Mehhh_> So framebuffer will output on hdmi to cli
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<slapin> damn meetings :(
<slapin> hno: how it is going?
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<mnemoc> stefanro1: done
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<slapin> russian post is universal - looks the same in most sleepy willage and in most busy city
<orly_owl> is the bribe the same too?
<slapin> bad slow and stupid service, arrogant workers, good way to put your mood below zero
<slapin> orly_owl: donno, I never had any wish to pay them anything
<ssvb> Turl: compiled DirectFB and tried df_dok benchmark - https://gist.github.com/4117583
<orly_owl> k
<slapin> also, it is necessary to say, that these workers get lower salary than janitors, so I don't really blame them, but that doesn't make russian post any better
<orly_owl> ah, that sucks
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<libv> has anyone attached serial to the uhost already?
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<mnemoc> libv: the berryboot guy had the brilliant idea (no it seems to obvius :| ) of using android's /dev/mem to get the dramc parameters (and made a toy for that)
<mnemoc> s/no /now /
<ibot> mnemoc meant: libv: the berryboot guy had the brilliant idea (now it seems to obvius :| ) of using android's /dev/mem to get the dramc parameters (and made a toy for that)
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<libv> mnemoc: i asked hno about the same thing just the day before this code was posted :p
<mnemoc> so it's simpler to add u-boot support now
<mnemoc> *g*
<libv> the xserver pokes registers over /dev/mem
<libv> and so do all my little bits and bobs for register access
<ssvb> mnemoc: well, it's kinda obvious, I wonder why nobody used that before
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<libv> it will require root access though
<mnemoc> android-sunxi comes with `su` by default
<mnemoc> lichee2 and lichee3... always, no known exception. `su` and so /dev/mem has always been available
<mnemoc> somehow we were mentally blocked to see boot1 as the only alternative
<mnemoc> sh*t happens
<hno> no, but I wrongly assumed /dev/mem was broken when you could not read/write from it like you can on x86.
<ssvb> Turl: btw, do you happen to know if G2D is overclockable? Because it does not seem to be a clear performance win in all cases right now
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<libv> 22h later, code :)
<libv> wish it always worked that way :ppp
<mnemoc> :)
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<ssvb> libv: or maybe he noticed that my comment that devmem2 tool actually works ;)
<hno> libv, I see that I lost your thread in the discussion there. sorry about that.
<hno> brain haven't been multi-threading capable the last days.
<libv> ssvb: _i_ was first!!!
<libv> i still think serial should be documented where possible
<ssvb> libv: maybe, but I have been using this trick for ages, and I guess a lot of people too
<libv> for any kernel development, serial seems quite important
<mnemoc> absolutely
<hno> yes, or OS configuration.
<ssvb> hno: maybe you know what is the G2D clock speed and whether it is overclockable?
<RaYmAn> have you actually tried using the G2D? I'm mostly thinking of, do you actually know it needs to be overclocked to do what you want? :P
<ssvb> RaYmAn: Turl explained how to use it with DirectFB the other day, and I have tried to benchmark it right now - https://gist.github.com/4117583
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<ssvb> it seems to have some kind of 200MPixel/sec limitation
<ssvb> which is not very nice, because the CPU for example can do memset at ~1400 MB/s, which translates to ~350 MPixels/sec for 32bit pixels
<libv> cpu usage at 0.6-5% is a definite win though
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<rm> which CPUJ
<rm> CPU*
<slapin> hno: please reply, or I'll die on this loooooong meeting
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<hno> slapin, at work. Not touching sunxi stuff at the moment.
<slapin> do you people know if skbs are patented or not?
<slapin> if I can use them in my own software which is not Linux kernel?
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<ssvb> libv: sure, and actually hardware accelerated scaling is the most interesting
<hno> ssvb, no idea.
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<ssvb> and 16-bpp support is apparently buggy in directfb/g2d, it just spits out [vmware][527][vmware_2d.c][vmwareBlit]G2D_CMD_BITBLT failure!
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<ssvb> looks like g2d uses non-premultiplied alpha :-/
<ssvb> but there is still some hope
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<mnemoc> ssvb: did you see the MP documentation in the leaked "user manual"?
<mnemoc> ssvb: haven't looked at it in detail, but seemed pretty complete
<mnemoc> too complete for been allwinner's IP
<ssvb> mnemoc: do you mean A10 Datasheet from http://linux-sunxi.org/A10 ?
<mnemoc> search for mixer processor
<ssvb> mnemoc: thanks a lot, this indeed looks rather detailed
<mnemoc> i hope it helps
<ssvb> yeah, saves a lot of guesswork
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<mnemoc> ssvb: please don't forget to document what you learn about A10/MP in the wiki :)
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<oliv3r> i guess i'll do some MP registers soon then :)
<mnemoc> oliv3r: can do we register tables in svg?
<mnemoc> a 32bit word horizontaly, separated by bits, with number and name
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<Turl> hno: your tree
<jeremb> slapin: I am maybe late on this but did you get your hdmi/vga cable? is it working?
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<hno> Turl, I have many branches.
<Turl> hno: sunxi-current
<hno> Ok. Anyway, it does no harm being squashed into the "wrong" commit.
<Turl> hno: did you see my small patch I linked on here?
<hno> yes.
<hno> not forgotten.
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<vinifm> hno: do you know the correct parameters for gpio_set_value()?
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<hno> vinifm, yes, see cmd_gpio
<hno> .c
<hno> it's pin and value
<hno> vinifm, what are you doing?
<vinifm> i tried this: gpio_set_value(SUNXI_GPG(9), 1); // set pg9
<vinifm> i got: segment fault
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: did you get your Stellaris shipped yet?
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: yeah, a month ago :P
<mnemoc> mine is still processing :<
<RaYmAn> my second order is in that state too
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<mnemoc> since sept 9th :|
<RaYmAn> when is your estimated shipping?
<mnemoc> not shown anywhere
<RaYmAn> aww :(
<mnemoc> and missed my chance of opening a dispute against TI
<RaYmAn> they haven't charged any money yet, have they?
<mnemoc> paypal
<RaYmAn> ah
<RaYmAn> well, they got a ton of orders
<Hornet> still waiting for an answer to yesterday's question
<Hornet> namely, which is the most suitable android micro PC for media center use at the moment, if any?
<mnemoc> mele a2000g
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<hno> vinifm, looks fine to me. Where are you doing this?
<specing> mnemoc: hehe, mine will ship in 15 days :D
* mnemoc feels envy
<specing> :)
<mnemoc> mine doesn't even say when it will ship
<RaYmAn> my second batch is supposed to ship in 10 days
<RaYmAn> :/
<specing> Still feels like Im the last one to get them
<mnemoc> .oO(why the *censored* does he recycle product pages without changing the title?!)o
<vinifm> hno: first i load sun4i-gpio...
<hno> That code is for running bare-bone within u-boot. You need some small changes to use it in linux.
<hno> gpio driver is not needed. But you need to mmap the PIO registers and bang on them..
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<libv> does olimex keep one informed on when hw ships out?
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<hno> I would think so. Newer ordered.
<mripard> libv: they do
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<slapin> jeremb: still no HDMI as no converters...
<slapin> hno: ... ?
<libv> mripard: in your case, how long did it take between ordering and shipping hw?
* libv is probably too spoiled by amazon
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<hno> slapin, putting kids to bed. Then back to $ work.
<Marex> libv: and olimex is quite a good pick
<hno> libv, may be a couple of days between order and shipping from olimex. It's a small company.
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<rm> ok where do I buy this for $250
<mnemoc> amazon
<mnemoc> .com or .co.uk
<mnemoc> for $250, .com
<RaYmAn> or .de probably
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<mnemoc> amazon.de only has atoms
<RaYmAn> oh
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<rm> amazon does not like russia
<rm> from what I could tell they only ship like books and dvds here
<rm> and even that only with Priority shipping (i.e. zomg-expensive)
<mnemoc> maybe you can find someone in USA to receive it and forward it to you
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<mnemoc> the ML has a bunch of junkies
<mnemoc> yankees
<mnemoc> buying from .co.uk you'll have to pay the VAT, that mostly doesn't exist when buying in usa
<rm> there's a number or mail forward services
<rm> specifically for US-only shippers
<rm> but they are certainly far from free and I don't really trust them
<mnemoc> that's why I suggested a fellow arm-netbook@-er
<specing> lol @ "junkies"
<rm> nah I don't need it that much to even hassle myself, let alone to hassle other people ^^
<mnemoc> specing: :)
<Turl> specing++
<mnemoc> rm: I (ab)used a tele-coworker....
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<mnemoc> but the damn chromebook was 2 weeks waiting in his house and now it has been another stuck in memphis
<mnemoc> but if it saves me 70E I'm happy
<mnemoc> rm: specing offers himself to forward one for you
<mnemoc> :)
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<libv> mnemoc: when buying from the .us you get to pay import tax/customs
<libv> i once bought 6 morex mini-itx cases for my via unichrome hw, secondhand, from the .us for 25usd a pop
<libv> postage was a whopping amount, but still doable...
<libv> then i got to collect those at the nuremberg customs office which is 12kms away, and i got to pay 19% on cases _and_ postage
<libv> end tally was like 55EUR a case
<mnemoc> ouch
<mnemoc> fortunatelly .es is very generous regarding not-express packages under 2kg
<mnemoc> I'll see soon.... if it ever leaves memphis' post office :<
<libv> 40EUR dvi expansion module for some unichrome mini-itx board: another trek to the south for me
<libv> 19%
<libv> weighs just a few grams
<libv> same for the mele i got in june
<mnemoc> .de and .uk are specially annoying import wise
<libv> mnemoc: is it any wonder that germany is not that much of a target in the public debt """crisis"""
<mnemoc> I received both of my meles directly at home, without any charge
<mnemoc> libv: .es has lazines crisis
<mnemoc> people simply doesn't know the meaning of the words "effort" and "work"
<mnemoc> ..... maybe that's why they don't control small packages
<mnemoc> good for me
<libv> yeah, the amount of taxes raised that way is rather negligable :)
<mnemoc> .es is not studing to sell citizenships to anyone buying a 160k property to reactivate the economy... wtf
<mnemoc> now
<mnemoc> err
<mnemoc> .es is now studing to sell citizenships to anyone buying a 160k property to reactivate the economy... wtf
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<Turl> overall what .es needs is a saner govt :)
<mnemoc> "people has the governments they deserve" (tm)
<rz2k> britain and us doing that too, but tax is 1.5M and 3M I believe.
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<rz2k> mnemoc: 140-160k is a price for cheap flat in old house in Moscow ghetto (and dont even ask about new flats in new houses), so they have a point providing that option.
<mnemoc> actually they said they were targetting .ru and .cn people
<mnemoc> but it feels whore-ish :<
<Turl> nah
<Turl> you can get .ar nationality if you want, for free, and we don't need you to buy a house or anything :) just saying
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<mnemoc> Turl: it's a schengen passport, free movement across europe and easy access to most countries... at least until they kick us out because of the shameful economy and whore-ish attitudes
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<mnemoc> passports are tools, not signs of culture or whatever
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<Turl> same here, you can get easy access to all mercosur
<mnemoc> .ar, .br and.... .ve?
<mnemoc> but well... economy there is far better than here these days anyway
<Turl> mnemoc: .uy, .py, .br, .cl, .bo, .ec, .ve, .co & .pe
<Turl> and well, .ar :)
<mnemoc> uhm
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<Turl> mnemoc: ?
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<mnemoc> Turl: 5 member if you count .uy and .py. but .ar+.br is already more than half south america anyway
<mnemoc> no idea why .cl doesn't want to join
<Turl> .cl is associate member
<mnemoc> Turl: free movement is .eu is not only about traveling, but also about settling and working
<mnemoc> it's an amazing tool which .it and .es are begging to lose
<Turl> you can settle and work over here no problem :p
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> and eat good dulce de leche.... not boiled condensated milk crap
<Turl> :)
<slapin> Marex: how I can quickly find real location of u-boot?
<Turl> I'd send you a couple of jars :P but I think you cannot mail food
<mnemoc> importing milk derivates seems to be complicated too
<mnemoc> :|
<slapin> Marex: Reserving 508k for U-Boot at: 5ff70000 is it this?
<Turl> mnemoc: there's many .ar people on spain though, maybe you can buy it on regional stores or something
<mnemoc> in my town most are .co/.ve shops
<mnemoc> .ar people focus in beef ;-)
<Turl> haha
<Turl> can you buy mantecol at least somewhere? :)
<mnemoc> haven't seen it
<mnemoc> damn you Turl
<mnemoc> :(
* mnemoc wants a mantecol bar
<Turl> christmas and new year without mantecol is not worth celebrating :p
<t0dbld|work> wtf is mantecol ?
<mnemoc> galicia (where I live) is full of .ar and .uy people (with .es passport)... but they act as most galician than the galicians :|
<mnemoc> t0dbld|work: a bar of.... dry fat :p
<t0dbld|work> lol well I still dont know what it is but ill take your word for it as being good
<t0dbld|work> LOL
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<Turl> mnemoc: that shop seems to ship to all .es
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<mnemoc> Turl: 2.5E for 100gr.... + 8E for shipping
<mnemoc> Turl: :<
<mnemoc> 100gr of mantecol is just a bite
<mnemoc> .oO
<Turl> mnemoc: 100gr costs 1.6E over here :P
<mnemoc> yes, the shipping is what hurts more
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<t0dbld|work> lol you have daily candy in AR
<Turl> mnemoc: buy alfajores and dulce de leche :P
<mnemoc> :)
<Turl> not much variety really, but at least it's not craptastic brands only :)
<Turl> havannets :o
<mnemoc> t0dbld|work: .ar people eats more sweet in a week than europeans in a year
<t0dbld|work> wow
<Turl> mnemoc: americans still beat us :P
<mnemoc> I took some dulce de leche to .de some years ago... and my flatmates weren't able to eat it
<t0dbld|work> LOL i doubt that
<t0dbld|work> I dont know many that have "Daily" candy
<Turl> idk what they meant with daily candy
<Turl> if you eat mantecol every day you'll die for sure :)
<mnemoc> :D
<mnemoc> but you'll die hapy
<mnemoc> happy
<Turl> haha yeah
<Turl> t0dbld|work: it's probably just a typo of 'dairy' candy
<Turl> as it contains milk
<t0dbld|work> ahh
<t0dbld|work> ok
<t0dbld|work> thats better
<Turl> t0dbld|work: I'll ship you some as 'parts' :P
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<t0dbld|work> haha sounds good
<t0dbld|work> cant wait
<t0dbld|work> gotta try the AR delicacy
<Turl> amazon should sell it
<Turl> they'd double their sales
<t0dbld|work> lol
<libv> did i ever send the nfsv3/4 cfg patches?
<mnemoc> defconfig ?
<mnemoc> not that I remmeber
<mnemoc> remember*
<libv> ah, right, ok.
<mnemoc> iirc rz2k also promised a bloated sun4i_desktop_defconfig
<libv> what do you mean by bloated? fb and mali as modules?
<libv> wow, just noticed that wemac was 10baseHD
<libv> this really cuts down the lima build time
<mnemoc> ethtool ?
<libv> when set to 100baseFD
<libv> mii-tool did the trick for me
<libv> 1/4th of the nfsed build time all of a sudden :)
<mnemoc> :)
<libv> 32s to build the lima tree over nfs on the mele
<libv> 2.5 local on core2 i5 :)
<mnemoc> how many times more spare ram? :)
<techn> hmm.. is sunxi memory handling done wrong? since I think fb sticky pixels problem is related to cache flush
<libv> sticky pixels?
<techn> and I now noticed that cedar also has somekind cache flush ioctl
<techn> libv: yes.. noticed in fbcon.. write some text to line..
<techn> after that move previous line, or erase text fast.. then you'll see sticky pixels
<techn> which are fading away one by one
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<techn> I'm thinkin that physical memory is written too slow in this case
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<slapin> hno: ful page read (READ0 + RNDOUT + RNDOUT ... ) works now
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<slapin> hno: tested witn nand dump
<slapin> hno: bug: it dumps in pages, not bytes, need to fix that.
<slapin> hno: if you can, please look into this
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<mripard> libv: hmmm, I guess it was a matter of 2-3 days
<mripard> libv: I received mine in less than a week (but I live in France, so Bulgaria is not that far away)
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<ssvb> libv: yes, the 10mbit ethernet issue is https://groups.google.com/d/topic/linux-sunxi/Mbd6whMq0ck/discussion
<ssvb> udelay workaround works fine for me, and makes boot over nfs much faster
<mnemoc> i don't understand why, if udelay is the problem, why after mii-tool/ethtool set to 100 FD works fine
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<mnemoc> but need to finish $work$ before it dies anyway :|
<ssvb> mnemoc: somebody might want to debug it and identify the root cause of this issue
<mnemoc> ssvb: can you open an issue on github and append your patch?
<ssvb> mnemoc: it's not my patch, and the issue is already reported there - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/issues/91
<mnemoc> ssvb: that isse is about PHY_POWER
<mnemoc> the udelay thing is a different issue
<mnemoc> even if the hackberry guy posted it there
<ssvb> mnemoc: whatever, the information is there, feel free to split the 10mbit problem to a separate bug
<ssvb> mnemoc: or ask the hackberry guy to do this :)
<mnemoc> i need someone to take over the maitainance of the tree as a whole... I can't do it anymore :/
* mnemoc back to work
<hno> slapin, still stuck in $ work.
<hno> having gdb deeply nested into some C++ code throwing exceptions at me.
<hno> in code I did not write.
<Mehhh> So the framebuffer will allow video output for CLI? How is this injected into the image? http://linux-sunxi.org/Framebuffer
<Turl> Mehhh: it's a framebuffer :P
<Mehhh> I just need to be able to use an image without a usb<->serial/ethernet
<Turl> hno: ouch
<Mehhh> wheezy that is
<Mehhh> Is there a VM of the A10 env?
<Turl> I don't think so
<mnemoc> Mehhh: mount the card on your computer, copy qemu-static in and chroot
<Mehhh> The problem is I have to run OTG mode because the usb cable is 4 pin
<Mehhh> hrmmm
<Turl> mnemoc: yeah but it isn't "an A10"
<Mehhh> mk802
<mnemoc> Turl: but it's its userspace ;-)
<mnemoc> part of it
<Turl> mnemoc: yeah but you cannot test framebuffer stuff :p
<mnemoc> :)
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<captainigloo> hi
<captainigloo> there is a tool to change u-boot env from linux ?
<captainigloo> on the mele a2000 and other a10 cards ?
<Mehhh> Basically I just need visual CLI to import the DM / etc
<captainigloo> for mtd NAND/NOR flash there is fw_printenv
<Mehhh> with OTG in script.bin
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<Mehhh> i don't think anything like that exists unless i want ubuntu and strip away packages
<Turl> Mehhh: so you want framebuffer console?
<Mehhh> That is what i was told i needed
<Turl> enable it on the kernel and add console=tty0 on the kernel command line on uboot
<Turl> and that should be it
<Mehhh> I just need to be able to hook it up, in OTG for power / keyboard (lapdock) and download the packages from CLI
<Mehhh> From the looks of it i'm going to have to gcc everything ahead of time
<ssvb> mnemoc: thanks again for the mixer processor documentation, without it there would be simply no way to know how to implement ADD compositing operator
<mnemoc> ssvb: :)
<Turl> Mehhh: you need to cross compile the kernel yeah
<Turl> compiling it on the MK802 would be too painful anyway :)
<mnemoc> ~4h
<mnemoc> iirc
<Turl> 4h vs under 2 minutes, that'd be a lot of time wasted waiting :)
<slapin> hno: but OOB still doesn't work for some reason...
<slapin> hno: please explain me your findings about RCMD register
<ssvb> mixer processor runs at half of the dram clock frequency, but appears that increasing its clock speed does not really help
<ssvb> it looks like simple fill and copy operations behave like they are doing unnecessary read from the destination
<slapin> hno: especially its value 0xe00530
<slapin> hno: according to ONFI, after 05 command should be e0 command to read data
<slapin> hno: also, how come E0 gets activated? there's SEND_CMD1 and SEND_CMD2 bytes there, but no CMD3...
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<slapin> hno: ah, there is CMD3 and CMD3, but there's no reason of setting 0xe00530, as we semd 30 05 anyway which is not needed, as we need to send 05 ... e0
<slapin> hno:
<slapin> hno: my assumption about pages vs bytes was wrong - it really reads bytes ok, this is bad block scan doesn't work because reading of oob return zeroes, so that is, only single thing to fix.
<slapin> gn, all!
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<slapin> funny. nand read.oob works perfectly, unlike nand dump...
<hno> slapin, it seems those are used by the NAND controller to perform seeks while reading the page.
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<hno> I don't know the exact conditions yet but ECC is likely needed for those to get active.
<FreddyAV> hi all
<FreddyAV> the Pengpod project, that's drachensun's project right?
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<hno> FreddyAV, yes
<FreddyAV> anyone around?
<FreddyAV> ahh thanks
<FreddyAV> hno: do you know if that project has as an end goal to get the GPL code (much like the j1nx AmLogic thing on indiegogo has)?
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<FreddyAV> i.e. this one http://www.indiegogo.com/open-amlogic-box if you haven't seen it
<Turl> we already have the gpl code
<FreddyAV> Turl: ahh, I thought bit and pieces were missing?
<FreddyAV> bits*