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<wpwrak> seems that NIST now officially dropped Dual EC DRBG. amazing that it took them so long.
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<DocScrutinizer05> seems I need to write up a "blogpost" or whatever, to take care about that obviously increasingly common concern that Neo900 project stalled or vanished
<DocScrutinizer05> a tad unfortunate that our communications officer Sebastian (dos1) isn't more chatty on neo900.org website
* whitequark imagines DocScrutinizer05 in a Starfleet uniform
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<DocScrutinizer51> whitequark: Q occasionally loved to appear in a starfleet captain uniform
* wpwrak imagines Lt. Uhura from STNV
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer51: you see yourself as Q...uark ? :-)
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<DocScrutinizer51> quark, question, quality, quibble, the-letter-after-P, whatever Q might stand for... I didn't say I see myself like that
<whitequark> DocScrutinizer51: in a starfleet *admiral* uniform
<whitequark> no way his enormous ego would fit in a captain one
<ysionneau> he could lead a *charge* with his fleet
<DocScrutinizer51> well, that's also his problem. He for his life (literally) can't figure how it feels to NOT have such an enormous ego. He's kinda like Mr Data, just with a slightly different approach vector to "being human"
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<DocScrutinizer51> not like some few humans had a significantly smaller ego =J
<DocScrutinizer51> =)
<larsc> ysionneau: and Q was clearly absolute
<ysionneau> yep :)
<DocScrutinizer51> and larsc clearly is a prime
<DocScrutinizer51> and maybe even complex
<larsc> probably irrational
<larsc> high up in the complex plane
<larsc> whitequark: the guy in the window is the fussbodenschleifmaschinenverleihbesitzer
<ysionneau> that increases the cost of the shop's heading
<ysionneau> poor german shops owners :(
<whitequark> larsc: I think I know who named the infamous PCLMULLQLQDQ instruction
<ysionneau> lol
<larsc> whitequark: somebody who didn't like vowels?
<whitequark> larsc: it's 8.3% vowels!
<DocScrutinizer51> Q is clearly ambiguous
<DocScrutinizer51> and that's the only thing absolutely clear about Q
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<DocScrutinizer05> any news about any civil fatalities caused by the Kiew anti-terror forces operating in Eastern Ukraine? I'm just asking because I only hear about pro russian separatists shooting helicopters with missiles and taking OSCE observers as hostages, while our beloved Russian Gov idiots call the anti-terror forces a "war against own people"
<DocScrutinizer05> maybe western news channels simply are so biased that they don't even report about all the cruel crimes the anti-terror forces commit?
<whitequark> you could probably have better chances by sweeping twitter for grassroots reports
<DocScrutinizer05> there's been that old granny they interviewed in Donjezk(?) who said "I don't know who are those guys with guns who occupied the townhall and all. I don't know whyt they want to achieve. I am afraid they don't act in my interest. I'm angry about Kiev not doing anything to stop this". I wonder if Putin counts that granny as "Ukraine's own people that the government now warships" or "the threatened Russian people in eastern Ukraine"
<whitequark> as if it matters
<DocScrutinizer05> well, we already learned that Putin and his sock puppet the mister of foreign affairs(?) just *always* lie. So when they say "Ukraine government started war against own people" then it probably doesn't matter what exactly they mean by "own people".
<DocScrutinizer05> minister*
<whitequark> I'm not sure what is the point of listening to them *at all*
<DocScrutinizer05> it rather matters what this communicates to russian public
<whitequark> my bet is on "intentionally ambiguous so everyone hears what they want"
<DocScrutinizer05> actually I agree, there's no point at all in listening to Putin an co-idiots. Not even when you know they're lying you can conclude *anything* from their blabla, not even the next blabla and for sure not their next action they take
<whitequark> yeah.
<DocScrutinizer05> whitequark: what's your personal estimation how many % of russian or let's just say Moscow population are falling for this "I'm Putin, your big daddy" show, and how many don't believe that crap and are pissed about it?
<whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: let's say majority
<whitequark> I'm 100% sure the majority does. specific numbers highly depend on the region
<whitequark> as a rule of thumb, the farther away from Moscow, the more
<whitequark> even in Moscow it's likely over 50%
<DocScrutinizer05> depressing
<whitequark> now you see why so many give up and just flee out of the country
<DocScrutinizer05> :nod:
<whitequark> should correlate highly with that
<DocScrutinizer05> the most disconcerting aspect in all this: all the plot and the means, while Putin pointing at the west and shouting "fascists!", in itself feels like copied straight from Hitler's secret operation guidelines
<whitequark> comparing Putin to Hitler is such a cliché topic these days in RU
<DocScrutinizer05> yeah, sure it is
<whitequark> I've read no less than dozen arguments for and against before giving up and simply /ignoring it
<DocScrutinizer05> doesn't make the whole story smell any less disgusting
<DocScrutinizer05> it doesn't matter if or if not Putin acts like $random-historical-person. What matters is if we can think about any way to stop this movement
<whitequark> shoot him?
<DocScrutinizer05> go ahead, I for sure don't mind :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> but I doubt this would really change anything
<whitequark> I would say that much of the current events are direct result of his personality
<DocScrutinizer05> prolly his successor, whoever it might be, would act ever harsher
<DocScrutinizer05> even*
<DocScrutinizer05> and more braindamaged
<whitequark> that's not clear at all
<DocScrutinizer05> I have no insight at all into this aspect of Russian politics
<whitequark> I would compare the top of the government with a nest of rats. this particular alpha male is quite paranoid and purposeful, but it doesn't mean that the nest in its entirety serves or even knows some common purpose
<whitequark> they mostly gnaw on whatever's easiest to reach
<whitequark> it's very clear if you look at laws they propose, at property they own, etc
<whitequark> "It’s costing “U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars for no reason and to add salt to the wound, the primary engine used is a Russian engine,” he said."
<whitequark> (I for one would welcome SpaceX in any circumstances, as competition breeds progress)
<larsc> whitequark: The boss of that ULA disagrees with your ;)
<whitequark> well, screw him!
* DocScrutinizer05 ponders to apply for a job at Tesla Inc
<DocScrutinizer05> did that since quite some time actually
<whitequark> sounds nice
<whitequark> or at SpaceX :p
<DocScrutinizer05> well, I guess inner-company moves are not as hard as getting in
<DocScrutinizer05> and actually I like their car too
<DocScrutinizer05> both has quite interesting EE domains
<DocScrutinizer05> sure, spacecraft is more ... geek
<DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
<whitequark> I dunno, spacecraft is more useful
<whitequark> launch satellites for 1/10th the cost = immediate profit
<DocScrutinizer05> FFS, 5 transmission errors on my 866MHz home automation during last 24h
<whitequark> yet another ultra-premium car = meh
<whitequark> (profit not as in "money in pockets of spacex", although that too)
<whitequark> I say we *need* rapid reduction of cost for space launches. telcos who use satellites are practically all broke. science is eating sorry leftovers after NRO and friends
<whitequark> that's not even taking into account "cool" things like human exploration
<larsc> astroid mining
<whitequark> that's so far in the future it's not even funny
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<whiteq> grr, no connectivity from here to linode
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: inner-company ... so you have to start at paypal and work your way up from there :)
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