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<azonenberg> whitequark: lol
<azonenberg> theres no point to have things on you that you wouldn't need urgently
<azonenberg> the odds of you needing to plant crops after an apocalypse with only what you have in your pockets? about zero :p
<azonenberg> I don't carry things around with me unless i use them on a routine basis
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<whitequark> azonenberg: yeah it was more pointing and laughing
<azonenberg> Yeah i have seen some pretty absurd stuff
<azonenberg> some of it obviously satirical
<azonenberg> like "tactical canned bacon"
<nats`> for apocalypse if I had only one thing to take in an urban env it would be an axe :D
<nats`> a fire axe
<nats`> :D
<azonenberg> my preference is to not be in urban areas during apocalypses :p
<azonenberg> actually, i prefer to avoid apocalypses in general
<nats`> agreed
<azonenberg> That's usually the safest option
<azonenberg> :p
<nats`> agreed but sadly 99% of time it doesn't depend on me :)
<azonenberg> Lol yes
<azonenberg> And some level of preparedness is entirely reasonable if, for example, you live in earthquake country
<nats`> yep
<azonenberg> but we're talking a major regional disaster, not the end of civilization
<nats`> at home I have the minimum
<nats`> what needed for few days emergency
<nats`> over that it's useless
<azonenberg> i have a bit more than "the minimum" but thats because camping gear pretty much qualifies as such
<nats`> ah yep for sport I already cover more :D
<nats`> I'm talking about really dedicated stuff
<azonenberg> Anyone who volunteers with any county emergency group (SAR etc) is expected to have at least 3 days of shelf-stable food/water for themselves + family at home
<azonenberg> by county gov policy
<azonenberg> if something happens they want you out there helping people, not worrying about if your family is taken care of
<nats`> yep :)
<nats`> makes sense
<azonenberg> I have more like a week's worth of drinkable water that i rotate out annually before the expiration date, but thats b/c in this area we occasionally get sediment etc kicked up by pipe flushing and such
<azonenberg> it's safe to drink but not exactly palatable
<nats`> "mineral" water
<nats`> I don't know the name
<nats`> like evian/vittel etc
<nats`> bottled water ?
<azonenberg> Yeah
<nats`> always 5 pack of 6 bottle
<azonenberg> my stuff is just filtered tap water
<azonenberg> not fnacy mineral water
<nats`> they are good for years
<azonenberg> this stuff has about a 1-year labeled shelf life
<nats`> but 99% of time I drink water from public service :D
<azonenberg> yeah same here
<azonenberg> Then i have whatever food is in the house
<nats`> yep
<azonenberg> plus ~12 days, at 3000 calories per person for me and $WIFE (i.e. enough for heavy physical activity) of shelf-stable stuff like MREs, granola bars, and dried things
<nats`> have to go eat :)
<azonenberg> That's more of a bonus than a stockpiile
<nats`> GF made blinies
<nats`> :)
<azonenberg> that's my camping food, stuff i keep in the pack for SAR, etc
<azonenberg> and sure, if the zombies come while i'm home i'll eat it :p
<azonenberg> but that isnt the point
<azonenberg> if something lasts a long time and is cheaper in volume, buy in volume
<azonenberg> And then i have a pretty decent amount of basic medical gear for the same reason... you don't buy two gauze pads, you buy a box
<azonenberg> But more importantly i know how to use it... it alway annoys me when i see people stockpiling stuff they dont even know how to use
<azonenberg> Or fixating on things like weapons and ignoring the fact that in a disaster, you're a lot more likely to need something to drink than you are to shoot a looter
<nats`> in those case water/food/drugs will be the first rushed stuff :D
<nats`> because zombie apocalypse is not happening :D
<nats`> war or natural disaster are more likely :D
<cr1901_modern> azonenberg: Which is more "tasty"... stream water with bleach or stream water w/ iodine :)?
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<pie_> why not both?
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<azonenberg> cr1901_modern: I prefer to filter
<azonenberg> nats`: well the odds of anyone invading an island in washington are pretty low
<azonenberg> on the other hand, it's an earthquake zone...
<azonenberg> So natural disasters are entirely probable
<azonenberg> the group i'm in does a big earthquake drill at least once a year
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